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United fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

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Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:59 pm
by Blueboylewis
Now i dont like United fans but this is bang out of order and going too far! I wish the guy all the best and a speedy recovery!
What are peoples thoughts on football violence these days?
Is it worse than what it use to be and is there to much riding on football matches nowadays for the sake of bragging rights and when things like this happen!
Although i would love the bragging rights that come with the thought of beating united and going to wembley.
Re: U***d fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

Posted:
Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:11 pm
by Goataldo
Eh?
Someone has been shot in an incident directly linked to the derby?
Re: U***d fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

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Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:12 pm
by mr_nool
Was he shot but a rival fan, by his missus, by his mistress husband, his landlord, his employee?
I don't really know what your talking about, but football violence is clearly under much better control now than it was in the 70's/80's (at least in the UK). I don't think you can even argue about that, and no single incident can make it less true.
Re: U***d fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

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Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:13 pm
by craigmcfc
BBL. Did you mean to do a link to a story mate? Don't know what the story is tbh
Re: U***d fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

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Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:18 pm
by Fish111
Football violence is virtually non-existant in comparison to 30 years ago. Back then the old bill didn't have a clue what to do about it and sometimes even helped the home team fans give a kicking out to the southerners or scousers.
Over time they got their shit together and with the help of CCTV and better tactics & intelligence they soon were able to clamp down on it. A bit of coin throwing and chair breaking doesn't constitute football violence imo and the lad who has been shot hasn't even made it onto the news so i doubt whether it had anything to do with the derby otherwise the press would have made a big deal of it.
Re: U***d fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

Posted:
Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:19 pm
by Blueboylewis
Re: U***d fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

Posted:
Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:19 pm
by Blueboylewis
craigmcfc wrote:BBL. Did you mean to do a link to a story mate? Don't know what the story is tbh
Just posted a link now mate on anoher post lol. Cant believe i forgot to post a link!
Re: U***d fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

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Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:24 pm
by LookMumImOnMCF.net
I'm not really sure I'm comfortable with this on the football forum.
Organised football violence is a whole different concept from a man in N Ireland randomly being shot in a dispute about football.
I wish the gent all the best.
Re: U***d fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

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Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:25 pm
by mr_nool
LookMumI'mOnMCF.net wrote:I'm not really sure I'm comfortable with this on the football forum.
Organised football violence is a whole different concept from a man in N Ireland randomly being shot in a dispute about football.
I wish the gent all the best.
Oh, it was one of those incidents. Has about as much to do with football violence in England as when some crazy "Scum fan" in Nigeria rides his car into a bunch of "Arsenal fans".
Re: U***d fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

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Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:26 pm
by Martinez
He was shot in the heart and got "seriously ill". Really? Surprising he survived at all if the slugs from a shotgun actually reached his heart. Dreadful thing to happen to any football supporter obviously
Re: U***d fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

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Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:28 pm
by Goataldo
Without wanting to be too prejudiced, I did raise an eyebrow when I saw it was a link to the Belfast Telegraph.
Reading between the lines I would hazard a guess it was a drunken argument with its roots in sectarian bullshit, that turned nasty.
"David is a real happy-go-lucky young fella. He enjoys a pint, but he's never done anything to deserve something like this"
I mean why else mention that he enjoys a pint? You never read stuff like 'he prefers coffee to tea, grows his own potatoes and plays squash at weekends, but he never deserved anything like this' do you?
Re: U***d fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

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Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:28 pm
by Fish111
It's a very very tenuous link to it being related to the match at all. Man watches match in a bar, walks home and gets shot by a nutter walking round with a shotgun and the local politician says they have a problem with anti-social behaviour? It's a tad more than anti-social behaviour walking round the estate with a sawn-off ffs!
Re: U***d fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

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Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:28 pm
by Patrick
the only people who consider footy violence to be on the increase are under 20
Re: U***d fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

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Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:33 pm
by Beeks
Football violence is absolutely nowhere near what it used to be...when I was younger it was going off every weekend home and away...practically every football team had a firm...you youngsters have no idea
Re: U***d fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

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Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:38 pm
by Kladze
IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Football violence is absolutely nowhere near what it used to be...when I was younger it was going off every weekend home and away...practically every football team had a firm...you youngsters have no idea
And God forbid it ever gets like that again.
Re: U***d fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

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Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:46 pm
by mr_nool
Kladze wrote:IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Football violence is absolutely nowhere near what it used to be...when I was younger it was going off every weekend home and away...practically every football team had a firm...you youngsters have no idea
And God forbid it ever gets like that again.
If blokes want to get physical with other blokes, I don't really mind as long as no innocent people are affected. Problem is that innocent people always are, be it by being victims to violence or not being able to stand in a terrace, watching football.
Re: U***d fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

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Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:03 pm
by Blueboylewis
mr_nool wrote:Kladze wrote:IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Football violence is absolutely nowhere near what it used to be...when I was younger it was going off every weekend home and away...practically every football team had a firm...you youngsters have no idea
And God forbid it ever gets like that again.
If blokes want to get physical with other blokes, I don't really mind as long as no innocent people are affected. Problem is that innocent people always are, be it by being victims to violence or not being able to stand in a terrace, watching football.
Is there something you would like to tell us MR Nool? :)
Re: U***d fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

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Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:06 pm
by mr_nool
Blueboylewis wrote:mr_nool wrote:Kladze wrote:IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Football violence is absolutely nowhere near what it used to be...when I was younger it was going off every weekend home and away...practically every football team had a firm...you youngsters have no idea
And God forbid it ever gets like that again.
If blokes want to get physical with other blokes, I don't really mind as long as no innocent people are affected. Problem is that innocent people always are, be it by being victims to violence or not being able to stand in a terrace, watching football.
Is there something you would like to tell us MR Nool? :)
Do you mind? Are you a bigot? A homophobe? Do you hate gays?
Re: U***d fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

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Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:33 pm
by Mark (Blue Army)
I read this the other day in the paper it's crazy, i used to live 2mins from the pub were he was shot!!!
Re: U***d fan shot in the heart by a shot gun

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Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:53 pm
by craigmcfc
mr_nool wrote:Blueboylewis wrote:mr_nool wrote:Kladze wrote:IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Football violence is absolutely nowhere near what it used to be...when I was younger it was going off every weekend home and away...practically every football team had a firm...you youngsters have no idea
And God forbid it ever gets like that again.
If blokes want to get physical with other blokes, I don't really mind as long as no innocent people are affected. Problem is that innocent people always are, be it by being victims to violence or not being able to stand in a terrace, watching football.
Is there something you would like to tell us MR Nool? :)
Do you mind? Are you a bigot? A homophobe? Do you hate gays?
Quite the opposite, I think he asked in hope more than anything !