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when the hell is Vieira gonna play

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:55 pm
by dick dastardley
Every week we seem to get to the point where hes nearly fit, then to be told hes been ruled out!!! pity we aint paying him per game, will he ever play in a blue shirt??

Re: when the hell is Vieira gonna play

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:01 pm
by the_georgian_genius
dick dastardley wrote:Every week we seem to get to the point where hes nearly fit, then to be told hes been ruled out!!! pity we aint paying him per game, will he ever play in a blue shirt??


We are paying him per game, he's on a pay as you play 100k deal.

Re: when the hell is Vieira gonna play

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:03 pm
by BobKowalski
dick dastardley wrote:Every week we seem to get to the point where hes nearly fit, then to be told hes been ruled out!!! pity we aint paying him per game, will he ever play in a blue shirt??


My understanding is that it is play for pay deal.

As to when he will play I have no idea and to be honest I am not that fussed as I don't really see him as being a major player even if he is fit.

Johnson I am looking forward to seeing in action though.

Re: when the hell is Vieira gonna play

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:09 pm
by Fish111
I thought he was on a salary as Talk Sport take the piss every now and again saying it's costs us nearly a million quid up to now to have him on our books.

Re: when the hell is Vieira gonna play

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:12 pm
by Blue Blood
Fish111 wrote:I thought he was on a salary as Talk Sport take the piss every now and again saying it's costs us nearly a million quid up to now to have him on our books.


Nope, 100% on a pay as you play deal. The club confirmed this.

Re: when the hell is Vieira gonna play

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:14 pm
by BobKowalski
Fish111 wrote:I thought he was on a salary as Talk Sport take the piss every now and again saying it's costs us nearly a million quid up to now to have him on our books.


The flaw here is 'Talk Sport' :)

City are a target. Shrug it off.

Re: when the hell is Vieira gonna play

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:22 pm
by Green & Blue
Fully fit and available for this weekend according to mcfc.co.uk

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/20 ... o-miss-out?

Re: when the hell is Vieira gonna play

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:27 pm
by Fish111
Blue Blood wrote:
Fish111 wrote:I thought he was on a salary as Talk Sport take the piss every now and again saying it's costs us nearly a million quid up to now to have him on our books.


Nope, 100% on a pay as you play deal. The club confirmed this.


So he's actually earned less than Mido since he's been here!

Re: when the hell is Vieira gonna play

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:49 pm
by Socrates
Think he is pencilled in for the North West Masters ;o)

Re: when the hell is Vieira gonna play

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:14 pm
by btajim
Fish111 wrote:I thought he was on a salary as Talk Sport take the piss every now and again saying it's costs us nearly a million quid up to now to have him on our books.


I had heard something about 25k basic with 100k Bonuses. Not sure how reliable the source was, though.

If he's only on loan at the moment then he's saved us a transfer fee. Try not to forget we're loaded! However, I too am annoyed with his lack of appearances as the medical should've been thorough enough to check he's fine - although, when he does start playing, there's no way that De Jong should be dropped to accomodate him as he's done nothing wrong to warrant it.

Once Vieira has a MOTM performance in a crucial game (4th place / Cup) then we won't care how often he's played.

Re: when the hell is Vieira gonna play

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:18 pm
by Douglas Higginbottom
As per my training report he is at least in full training today but whether that means he will play Saturday I don't know. Both Bridge and Lescott have been in full training for a while ( especially Bridge ) but havent even made the subs bench yet. Maybe lessons have been learned from trying to get RSC back too quickly!

Re: when the hell is Vieira gonna play

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:28 pm
by BobKowalski
btajim wrote: However, I too am annoyed with his lack of appearances as the medical should've been thorough enough to check he's fine


So if Kaka popped along for a medical and he was carrying say a calf strain that would keep him out for a month are you saying we shouldn't sign the player because he is not fit enough to play?

Actually forget it as I have decided it must be me because there seems to be an general obsession with the Paddy signing that I am clearly not getting :)

Re: when the hell is Vieira gonna play

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:34 pm
by btajim
BobKowalski wrote:So if Kaka popped along for a medical and he was carrying say a calf strain that would keep him out for a month are you saying we shouldn't sign the player because he is not fit enough to play?

Actually forget it as I have decided it must be me because there seems to be an general obsession with the Paddy signing that I am clearly not getting :)


Sorry - do you want me to reply or not?! The "obsession" is that City have signed a world class Midfielder and we're yet to see him play.

I believe the initial deal is for 6 months and it's not a perfect situation when he's unavailable to play for the first 5 weeks. There was no mention of Vieira carrying an injury when his signing was unveiled so I'm struggling to see your point. I'm guessing Mancini wanted to put him in the side immediately and Vieira wanted to get some Football to ensure his place in the French World Cup Team.

Re: when the hell is Vieira gonna play

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:42 pm
by Vhero
Finally gonna play eh? I got sick of the "he will be ready for the next game" BS they were feeding the fans for us to find out the same excuse was being used the week after.

Re: when the hell is Vieira gonna play

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:51 pm
by BobKowalski
btajim wrote:
BobKowalski wrote:So if Kaka popped along for a medical and he was carrying say a calf strain that would keep him out for a month are you saying we shouldn't sign the player because he is not fit enough to play?

Actually forget it as I have decided it must be me because there seems to be an general obsession with the Paddy signing that I am clearly not getting :)


Sorry - do you want me to reply or not?! The "obsession" is that City have signed a world class Midfielder and we're yet to see him play.

I believe the initial deal is for 6 months and it's not a perfect situation when he's unavailable to play for the first 5 weeks. There was no mention of Vieira carrying an injury when his signing was unveiled so I'm struggling to see your point. I'm guessing Mancini wanted to put him in the side immediately and Vieira wanted to get some Football to ensure his place in the French World Cup Team.


Not really but as you did a couple of points. I was aware that Paddy was carrying a knock because he said so. He played for Inter a few days before and got a kick on the calf. Everyone was vague about when it would clear up but I guess I was the only one not surprised when he didn't play rght away

The bit about him being on a play/pay basis for 6 months was also made public early on yet all seem to read is "why have we signed a crock for £10mill its a disgrace, RSC all over again, sack the medical team, outrage, annoyed froth, more outrage"

I posted a while back that I was bemused by the anger over a free transfer signing for 6 months because he isn't playing every match as if somehow we have all been duped. RSC I think we were had over big time but somehow the Paddy is an even bigger outrage.

I will admit I am bemused and I appear to be alone in this but it happens and no point me getting my panties in a bunch over it I guess :)

Re: when the hell is Vieira gonna play

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:47 pm
by Alex Sapphire
dick dastardley wrote:Every week we seem to get to the point where hes nearly fit, then to be told hes been ruled out!!! pity we aint paying him per game, will he ever play in a blue shirt??


This weekend

Vieira fit

Re: when the hell is Vieira gonna play

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:09 pm
by 10.Goater_Legend
Hull away :-)

Re: when the hell is Vieira gonna play

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:17 pm
by bergomi
Even if he's fit, because of his physical stature he is going to need some games before he begins to give his best - and when he'll reach that point, he will injure again. His last two seasons he practically never played and that was not because he wouldn't be good, but because he was always injured or recovering from injury. He's still the Vieira you know, just a little slower and much more prone to injuries ;)