Terry dropped as England captain

[yorkieblue]

by dropping John Terry. If England happen to win the World Cup (i know unlikely but) we are going to have druggie ferdinand lifting the dammed thing and we will have to put up with that photo forever more. How many times have you seen the Bobby Moore photo, thousands of times it could now be druggie ferdinand turn. bring back John Terry

[btajim]

Do you think this JT thing will continue? Because the next time another half news story comes around I bet you people forget about Terrygate in an instant.

Point taken, but the World Cup is merely months away and still fresh in the minds of many. The chances of anything else involving a key squad player erupting is remote. Jar Jar's missed drug test was when? 2004? I don't even remember.

I've seen people be critical of Ferdinand because he's presently serving a suspension for violent conduct - yet these are the same England Fans who affectionately nicknamed Stuart Pearce "Psycho" and aren't exactly shy in their loyalty for the Country.

Gotta love The Daily Mail today. Praising an Italian Man for his Family values and laying more crap at the feet of John Terry!

[Scatman]

You'll just have to hope we won't win it then, and that Rooney plays no part in us winning it.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I can't understadn why people keep mentioning Ferdinand? Surely Gerrard is the obvious number two choice.

Anyway, I don't think people should be worrying WHO will lift the World Cup for England. Lots of trials and tribulations ahead of you before you'll be there.

To be honest, and I don't want to insult England fans here, I'm not really sure whether this is THE year for England. You are lacking quality in couple of key positions. I've seen MUCH better England sides (1986, 1990, 1998) fail to do it. But you never know.

[btajim]

No England Fan is worrying about which of our Motley Crew will be lifting the World Cup because we're not there yet. The worry comes from the Guy leading the charge.

You mention 1998 but it's 12 years later and a brand new generation of Players so excitement is only natural when England have qualified for the World Cup with ease. My own personal highlight of the campaign was that win in Croatia. A million miles away from the mess that Steve McClaren left behind.

[LookMumImOnMCF.net]

Do you think this JT thing will continue? Because the next time another half news story comes around I bet you people forget about Terrygate in an instant.

Point taken, but the World Cup is merely months away and still fresh in the minds of many. The chances of anything else involving a key squad player erupting is remote. Jar Jar's missed drug test was when? 2004? I don't even remember.

That's true. But the point I was trying to make is that the Terry 'scandal' won't affect the players half as much as it affects the press. Can you imagine the headlines if he scores a crucial OG?

If it's going to affect him so much that he can't captain then he shouldn't be playing. Though to people of my generation I don't think team captain is really all that important any more.

[Ted Hughes]

The task of trying to find a player that others might respect amongst a bunch of cheats, liars, prima donnas, granny shaggers, adulterers, coke fiends, friendly skippers and overpaid hype merchants is impossible. By changing the captain Mr Capello has achieved nothing more than confirming he, like every other England manager there has been in my football watching lifetime, is easily susceptible to pressure from the media.

Well he could have entered into a pissing contest with the world's media just to give John Terry the satisfaction of being captain but it would have been the worst decision of all time & would serve no purpose. The only thing the England captain actually does is act as a figurehead, if that figurehead is going to spend the next 6 months dodging questions about shagging his team mate's girlfriend then how exactly does that help England win a world cup?

Do you think this JT thing will continue? Because the next time another half news story comes around I bet you people forget about Terrygate in an instant.

I don't know why you're refering to me as 'you people' as if I have a particular interest in such things but your answer proves my point. Now that Terry is no longer England captain this will most likely disappear rather than being used against the team at every press interview throughout the world cup. What would be the point in asking Rio Ferdinand about it? A simple 'no comment' & on we go. Problem solved. Proper management at last for the 1st time since Alf Ramsey.

[LookMumImOnMCF.net]

The task of trying to find a player that others might respect amongst a bunch of cheats, liars, prima donnas, granny shaggers, adulterers, coke fiends, friendly skippers and overpaid hype merchants is impossible. By changing the captain Mr Capello has achieved nothing more than confirming he, like every other England manager there has been in my football watching lifetime, is easily susceptible to pressure from the media.

Well he could have entered into a pissing contest with the world's media just to give John Terry the satisfaction of being captain but it would have been the worst decision of all time & would serve no purpose. The only thing the England captain actually does is act as a figurehead, if that figurehead is going to spend the next 6 months dodging questions about shagging his team mate's girlfriend then how exactly does that help England win a world cup?

Do you think this JT thing will continue? Because the next time another half news story comes around I bet you people forget about Terrygate in an instant.

I don't know why you're refering to me as 'you people' as if I have a particular interest in such things but your answer proves my point. Now that Terry is no longer England captain this will most likely disappear rather than being used against the team at every press interview throughout the world cup. What would be the point in asking Rio Ferdinand about it? A simple 'no comment' & on we go. Problem solved. Proper management at last for the 1st time since Alf Ramsey.

I didn't mean to write "you people" and I apologise as it seems a bit direct. I did write "you", realised it was a bit presumptuous, replaced it with "people" but forgot to delete the first word. So I am sorry for that.

Anyway, as I say, I think it's a case of the press meddling in the national side again and not Capello making a football decision. If they all rallied round enough I've a feeling they could pick the starting XI!

[Ted Hughes]

I can't understadn why people keep mentioning Ferdinand? Surely Gerrard is the obvious number two choice.

Anyway, I don't think people should be worrying WHO will lift the World Cup for England. Lots of trials and tribulations ahead of you before you'll be there.

To be honest, and I don't want to insult England fans here, I'm not really sure whether this is THE year for England. You are lacking quality in couple of key positions. I've seen MUCH better England sides (1986, 1990, 1998) fail to do it. But you never know.

We always get accused of that yet apart from the occasional nutcase, hardly any England fans ever say we WILL win the world cup just that we have a chance which I think is a good one as the other teams have weaknesses as well as us. I think everyone has doubts about those weaknesses, also the form of Lampard, Gerrard, Ferdinand,Terry etc etc also Ferguson will run Rooney to death but I don't agree that those previous sides were better because they had 'player power' managers. I think each squad of players has been an improvement on the whole anyway.

The biggest difference is that this is the 1st time that we have a manager who is actually running the team & in charge of the players rather than just begging & encouraging them, France are struggling & Brazil have barely any world class players. That gives us much a better chance than previous years (form permitting) imo.

[Ted Hughes]

The task of trying to find a player that others might respect amongst a bunch of cheats, liars, prima donnas, granny shaggers, adulterers, coke fiends, friendly skippers and overpaid hype merchants is impossible. By changing the captain Mr Capello has achieved nothing more than confirming he, like every other England manager there has been in my football watching lifetime, is easily susceptible to pressure from the media.

Well he could have entered into a pissing contest with the world's media just to give John Terry the satisfaction of being captain but it would have been the worst decision of all time & would serve no purpose. The only thing the England captain actually does is act as a figurehead, if that figurehead is going to spend the next 6 months dodging questions about shagging his team mate's girlfriend then how exactly does that help England win a world cup?

Do you think this JT thing will continue? Because the next time another half news story comes around I bet you people forget about Terrygate in an instant.

I don't know why you're refering to me as 'you people' as if I have a particular interest in such things but your answer proves my point. Now that Terry is no longer England captain this will most likely disappear rather than being used against the team at every press interview throughout the world cup. What would be the point in asking Rio Ferdinand about it? A simple 'no comment' & on we go. Problem solved. Proper management at last for the 1st time since Alf Ramsey.

I didn't mean to write "you people" and I apologise as it seems a bit direct. I did write "you", realised it was a bit presumptuous, replaced it with "people" but forgot to delete the first word. So I am sorry for that.

Anyway, as I say, I think it's a case of the press meddling in the national side again and not Capello making a football decision. If they all rallied round enough I've a feeling they could pick the starting XI!

It's a football decision because the players would be affected by the captain being constantly hounded, also it's almost certainly the case that Terry doesn't have the full backing of the squad. Now it's up to him to prove himself good enough to get in the team.

[CityFanFromRome]

I can't understadn why people keep mentioning Ferdinand? Surely Gerrard is the obvious number two choice.

Because he was the vice-captain and Capello said he doesn't see the need to modify the second and third choice captains he made when he appointed Terry, so with Terry out of contention Ferdinand becomes captain and whoever was the third choice becomes the vice-captain (I think it is Gerrard). I, for one, would have given it to Gerrard or Lampard.

[LookMumImOnMCF.net]

It's a football decision because the players would be affected by the captain being constantly hounded, also it's almost certainly the case that Terry doesn't have the full backing of the squad. Now it's up to him to prove himself good enough to get in the team.

It's a football decision based on the actions of the media? I think my point still stands.

I also don't go for the romantic view that players actually give a shit about each other. Maybe I'm just a cynical twat.

[Blue2]

For a job like this I would rather have a man who is a leader and an adulterer rather than one that is a fuckwit and drug test dodger.

If the crime is such a major one then he shouldn't play for Engalnd again, but they wont drop him form the squad will they? No, because he is too important to the team. As I said earlier, I don't like the guy, but this this is a bit hypocritical.

Capello has more promoted the 2iC as opposed to making a fresh appointment. Personally, I felt they just made an example out of Rio Ferdinand to prove no-one was above the law.

I trusted Fabio to make the right decision and he did. I'm a huge fan of his style of Management and it's sadly lacking in Football now. England have had a complete facelift under his tenure. Wembley is looking wonderful, the Shirt is a classic and the Team themselves are playing with confidence. I think Capello is the best England Manager since Bobby Robson.

Needless to say, I'm proud that my adopted home Country are taking part in the next World Cup and am pleased that the Media will struggle to whip up a storm now Terry has been axed as Captain. It's about time the cheating Son of a Drug Dealer and Shoplifter got his comeuppance. He'll hate that.

They won't find it hard Jim, we now have a drug test dodger in the role who was fined £50k and banned for 8 months.

There you go


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[edge275]

I totally back Fabio in stripping the captaincy of Terry. But to then give it camel lips defeats the object. I know this won't go down well but in my opinion the captaincy should go to Rooney.

Lips and suitability for the role aside, Capello can hardly strip the captaincy from love cheat Terry and give it to love cheat and mature prostitute user Rooney.

I'm not arsed about either of them cheating on their wives, I'm sure the vast majority of England players have. The problem I have is that Terry did it with Bridge's spouse. He has pick of any women he wants, and he did it with her. Not only that, but all his other misdemeanors as in charging for tours, renting out his box at Wembley etc. Shagging grannies is nothing compared to what Terry has done. Great player though.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I can't understadn why people keep mentioning Ferdinand? Surely Gerrard is the obvious number two choice.

Anyway, I don't think people should be worrying WHO will lift the World Cup for England. Lots of trials and tribulations ahead of you before you'll be there.

To be honest, and I don't want to insult England fans here, I'm not really sure whether this is THE year for England. You are lacking quality in couple of key positions. I've seen MUCH better England sides (1986, 1990, 1998) fail to do it. But you never know.

We always get accused of that yet apart from the occasional nutcase, hardly any England fans ever say we WILL win the world cup just that we have a chance which I think is a good one as the other teams have weaknesses as well as us. I think everyone has doubts about those weaknesses, also the form of Lampard, Gerrard, Ferdinand,Terry etc etc also Ferguson will run Rooney to death but I don't agree that those previous sides were better because they had 'player power' managers. I think each squad of players has been an improvement on the whole anyway.

The biggest difference is that this is the 1st time that we have a manager who is actually running the team & in charge of the players rather than just begging & encouraging them, France are struggling & Brazil have barely any world class players. That gives us much a better chance than previous years (form permitting) imo.

Apart from Sir Bobby, that is very true and I agree that it will give you extra edge.