GARETH BARRY ANALYSIS

[Im_Spartacus]

He offers nothing to the team, has been crap for weeks and needs a spell on the bench.

Or under the surgeon's knife if the rumours are true

Doug seems to have confirmed that this is not true

Today, as with most games he is slow over the ground, slow to read the play, doesnt tackle and his distribution was poor.

Barry seems to be a total enigma. He was the summer signing that I was most excited about. One of the most consistent players in the premier league for a decade at Villa, maybe he has been the man the team has been built around at Villa, so all other signings were there to do the things that he isnt very good at. He doesnt have that luxury here, so it appears his deficiencies are being cruelly exposed.

The analysis thread may turn into what appears to be Barry bashing, but you could repeat the exercise for the same player vs Bolton at home or for that matter any other game this season w, and I doubt that the comments would be much more positive.

[Goataldo]

Can't judge him as I went to the pub to watch the match and they were showing United. It's Chorlton for God's sake, Death Star's only up the road but nah let's watch it in the pub with our Delia Smith scarves on. Apparently it's hard to get tickets if you can't read, write, think or speak properly.

I did meet one United fan in the pub who'd been to the game though. He appeared at half time, saying the Portsmouth drum was too loud, and he was sick of away fans singing more than them, and that the atmosphere was 'shite'. You couldn't make it up! Every cloud eh....

I realise I'm off-topic but hopefully have illustrated why.

[ruralblue]

If he has this Op how long will he be out afterwards, without rushing him back. Is he putting this off cause world cup year??, if so then at this rate will he get picked for the england team on the basis of the majority of his recent (since we played Villa) appearances.

[Im_Spartacus]

If he has this Op how long will he be out afterwards, without rushing him back. Is he putting this off cause world cup year??, if so then at this rate will he get picked for the england team on the basis of the majority of his recent (since we played Villa) appearances.

If someone is a top, and I mean top notch player, injury causing him to be playing so far below what he is supposedly capable of as he has for the last 4 months, he would have been operated on by now.

If it had been an issue, he could have had the opportunity to have an op if we had another DM signed up with Vieira in the first few days of the transfer window. All this bollocks about last minute bids suggest it wasnt a priority, and points to Doug being correct about him NOT being unfit

[King Kev]

The analysis thread may turn into what appears to be Barry bashing...

Precisely the reason why I wasn't keen on Barry being the subject of this analysis. He has been shit for many weeks now and it was pretty obvious that it would turn out like this. It is just confirming what most of us already know.

[ruralblue]

He also looks like a Subbuteo figure in the team photo.

[Bojinov's left foot]

How many good games has Barry played for City? IMO not many. Today he was no worse than normal but he should have made more of an impression on a match we wanted to win. Doesn't he get selected regular for England??

He was supposed to be able to tackle and create. Most of the time he seems to be on the floor trying to keep or win possession. Not many chances created. Has no pace. Good that he has a left foot which allows flexibility for the team but he needs to improve. I thought he was going to be a leader for the team, I don't see this at the moment.

If he is not injured his form is a serious worry and one that Mancini should have addressed early in the transfer window not at the end!

Would love him to come good in a City shirt though and he was one of the first to sign on for the 'project'.

[King Kev]

...Doesn't he get selected regular for England??....

I have a theory that he had a bad experience during our pre-season tour and doesn't want to go back to South Africa.

[eastlandsblue]

from where I was sat, he was to slow in closing the attacker down. Was to blame for the 1st goal, and gave the ball away to often. When he went to LB, he seem more at ease. Rather than call him crap, Id give him the next 2wks off, than assess him again. Personally I think he's a much better then were seeing

[Beefymcfc]

Overall I thought Bazza had a decent game. For me Bazza is a ball player who likes to break up and then set up the attack. The problem we've got is that we play to defensive which means when he is looking for an outletor two, there is nothing on offer. He ends up playing it square or to a player who has no real motivation to get forward.

Playing him and Nigel doesn't help the team either!

[getdressedmctavish]

There is surely something wrong with gareth, either mental or physical. But atleast he is trying to do a box to box job. he doesn't enrage me like nige who to my eyes is a complete bullshitter. the hard man who never makes a tackle unless its a certainty. the defensive midfielder who other teams bypass time after time. a weightlifter masquerading as a footballer. at his worst utter gash. at his best, totally and utterly mediocre without a brain cell in his head. Nah, like him really lol

[Beefymcfc]

There is surely something wrong with gareth, either mental or physical. But atleast he is trying to do a box to box job. he doesn't enrage me like nige who to my eyes is a complete bullshitter. the hard man who never makes a tackle unless its a certainty. the defensive midfielder who other teams bypass time after time. a weightlifter masquerading as a footballer. at his worst utter gash. at his best, totally and utterly mediocre without a brain cell in his head. Nah, like him really lol

All's I'll say is, 'I disagree'!

[Im_Spartacus]

There is surely something wrong with gareth, either mental or physical. But atleast he is trying to do a box to box job. he doesn't enrage me like nige who to my eyes is a complete bullshitter. the hard man who never makes a tackle unless its a certainty. the defensive midfielder who other teams bypass time after time. a weightlifter masquerading as a footballer. at his worst utter gash. at his best, totally and utterly mediocre without a brain cell in his head. Nah, like him really lol

All's I'll say is, 'I disagree'!

suspect its a regular, he mentioned "good paul dickov" in another thread

[Beefymcfc]

There is surely something wrong with gareth, either mental or physical. But atleast he is trying to do a box to box job. he doesn't enrage me like nige who to my eyes is a complete bullshitter. the hard man who never makes a tackle unless its a certainty. the defensive midfielder who other teams bypass time after time. a weightlifter masquerading as a footballer. at his worst utter gash. at his best, totally and utterly mediocre without a brain cell in his head. Nah, like him really lol

All's I'll say is, 'I disagree'!

suspect its a regular, he mentioned "good paul dickov" in another thread

I remember that one, now who the hell was that? 2 posts did have me wondering, wonder if one of the mods could check out the ISP ;-)

[Im_Spartacus]

There is surely something wrong with gareth, either mental or physical. But atleast he is trying to do a box to box job. he doesn't enrage me like nige who to my eyes is a complete bullshitter. the hard man who never makes a tackle unless its a certainty. the defensive midfielder who other teams bypass time after time. a weightlifter masquerading as a footballer. at his worst utter gash. at his best, totally and utterly mediocre without a brain cell in his head. Nah, like him really lol

All's I'll say is, 'I disagree'!

suspect its a regular, he mentioned "good paul dickov" in another thread

I remember that one, now who the hell was that? 2 posts did have me wondering, wonder if one of the mods could check out the ISP ;-)

Is it slim, or CARL im certain its slim for what its worth

[Ted Hughes]

The analysis thread may turn into what appears to be Barry bashing...

Precisely the reason why I wasn't keen on Barry being the subject of this analysis. He has been shit for many weeks now and it was pretty obvious that it would turn out like this. It is just confirming what most of us already know.

Tbh I've studied players in the past after criticising them & found more good points than I'd realised & it's changed my opinion somewhat.

In this case although I didn't particularly study Barry, I thought he was utter shite & this thread seems to be confirming I didn't miss anything! Drop him.

[Nige]

he just wont carry the ball at any point in the game. His first and only option is spin, stop and pass. This wasnt the barry we saw at the start of the season or in a Villa or England shirt. he has it in his locker but one of three things is keeping it locked away.

1) bobby manc demanding he plays in a certain way.
2) physical issue like a nagging injury or carrying too much weight
3) mental issue - has all his confidence been swallowed up by the Villa fans?

1 week rest and play ireland in there with NDJ. one of our CM players has to carry the ball which Stevie can do.

[eastlandsblue]

he just wont carry the ball at any point in the game. His first and only option is spin, stop and pass. This wasnt the barry we saw at the start of the season or in a Villa or England shirt. he has it in his locker but one of three things is keeping it locked away.

1) bobby manc demanding he plays in a certain way.
2) physical issue like a nagging injury or carrying too much weight
3) mental issue - has all his confidence been swallowed up by the Villa fans?

1 week rest and play ireland in there with NDJ. one of our CM players has to carry the ball which Stevie can do.

110% agree with resting him and playing Ireland there, this wll also get Stevie back on track

[getdressedmctavish]

I think you'll find that if we pair him with a holding mid who a can hold rather than standing twenty yards off, b play a waited pass a stride infront rather than a million miles an hour at your knees when you aint ready to recieve it, and can jink and move forwards when he has the ball thus disrupting the opposing line of four or five , you will find that Gareth looks a decent, albeit not wonderful(he never was) player again.Nige's limitations are why Bobby Manc was in the market and why he brought in Vieira, imo. A holding MF who knows how to fall over instead of constantly being penalized would be nice, but hey, why think when you can bare your teeth? But maybe those who criticise Barry so vehemently think its Nige whose been playing all those weighted through balls to Bellers, lol . However, if running round like a headless chicken passing the ball into impossible stuations before anyone has had a chance to gather breath is what's required, didn't we have a bloke from switzerland who did that rather well?lol

[the_georgian_genius]

Waste of time analysing Gareth Barry, said that in the voting thread.