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I would play

- - - - - - - - - - - - Given

- - Zaba - - Onouha - - Toure - - Bridge

- - - - - - - - Vieria - - de Jong

- - - - SWP - - - - Ireland - - - - Johnson

- - - - - - - - - - - Tevez

I am more than likely going to get blasted for this, but fucl it.

I personally would not have de Jong anywhere near the team at home. I think a midfielder who never gets forward is a liability. Can anyone remember him even having a shot on target in his 12 months with us? I can't. I am not criticising the lad because perhaps he is doing what he is told to do, but I'd like four midfielders who can both attack and defend. My four can do that and, supplemented by Tevez who will work his nads off regardless, we should be coping ok defensively. A proper midfield will also help the full-backs, who have been seen by some as a weak area in the team this year. Width on both sides should allow us to stretch Bolton on our wide pitch.

Time has come for Boyata to go back to the reserves and apply the lessons he has learnt in his first-team spell. We need Bellamy for the FA Cup tie. I would not risk Richards or Lescott if not fully fit. Gareth Barry needs a rest.

I am sorry, Mr. Chairman. I am unfortunately not available to take over as manager in the summer.

So the team for me:

Given

Zabaleta - Onuoha - Toure - Bridge

SWP - Ireland - Vieira - A.Johnson

Tevez - Adebayor

----------Given
Zab---Ned---Toure---Garrido
----------Vieira
AJ---SWP---Ireland---Petrov
-----------Ade

Bridge
Boyata
Bellamy
Barry
Tevez
De Jong
Taylor

are we playing another match vs Bolton this week?

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Tokyo Blue wrote:I am more than likely going to get blasted for this, but fucl it.

I personally would not have de Jong anywhere near the team at home. I think a midfielder who never gets forward is a liability. Can anyone remember him even having a shot on target in his 12 months with us? I can't. I am not criticising the lad because perhaps he is doing what he is told to do, but I'd like four midfielders who can both attack and defend. My four can do that and, supplemented by Tevez who will work his nads off regardless, we should be coping ok defensively. A proper midfield will also help the full-backs, who have been seen by some as a weak area in the team this year. Width on both sides should allow us to stretch Bolton on our wide pitch.

Time has come for Boyata to go back to the reserves and apply the lessons he has learnt in his first-team spell. We need Bellamy for the FA Cup tie. I would not risk Richards or Lescott if not fully fit. Gareth Barry needs a rest.

I am sorry, Mr. Chairman. I am unfortunately not available to take over as manager in the summer.

So the team for me:

Given

Zabaleta - Onuoha - Toure - Bridge

SWP - Ireland - Vieira - A.Johnson

Tevez - Adebayor

Mate, I couldn't agree more with this if I tried.

That side will murder Bolton, no question about it. They can all play ball and we'd pass Bolton into millions of pieces.

Also, my biggest critism for Mancini so far is overlooking SWP. He is more valuable to the side than most people understand.

Tokyo Blue wrote:I am more than likely going to get blasted for this, but fucl it.

I personally would not have de Jong anywhere near the team at home. I think a midfielder who never gets forward is a liability. Can anyone remember him even having a shot on target in his 12 months with us? I can't. I am not criticising the lad because perhaps he is doing what he is told to do, but I'd like four midfielders who can both attack and defend. My four can do that and, supplemented by Tevez who will work his nads off regardless, we should be coping ok defensively. A proper midfield will also help the full-backs, who have been seen by some as a weak area in the team this year. Width on both sides should allow us to stretch Bolton on our wide pitch.

Time has come for Boyata to go back to the reserves and apply the lessons he has learnt in his first-team spell. We need Bellamy for the FA Cup tie. I would not risk Richards or Lescott if not fully fit. Gareth Barry needs a rest.

I am sorry, Mr. Chairman. I am unfortunately not available to take over as manager in the summer.

So the team for me:

Given

Zabaleta - Onuoha - Toure - Bridge

SWP - Ireland - Vieira - A.Johnson

Tevez - Adebayor

I don't disagree with your argument that we don't necessarily need to play such a defensive midfield at home against lesser teams, but NDJ did hit a fantastic shot on target away at Scunny which forced an excellent save to deny him his first goal. Admittedly that's the only one I can remember.

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

Tokyo Blue wrote:I am more than likely going to get blasted for this, but fucl it.

I personally would not have de Jong anywhere near the team at home. I think a midfielder who never gets forward is a liability. Can anyone remember him even having a shot on target in his 12 months with us? I can't. I am not criticising the lad because perhaps he is doing what he is told to do, but I'd like four midfielders who can both attack and defend. My four can do that and, supplemented by Tevez who will work his nads off regardless, we should be coping ok defensively. A proper midfield will also help the full-backs, who have been seen by some as a weak area in the team this year. Width on both sides should allow us to stretch Bolton on our wide pitch.

Time has come for Boyata to go back to the reserves and apply the lessons he has learnt in his first-team spell. We need Bellamy for the FA Cup tie. I would not risk Richards or Lescott if not fully fit. Gareth Barry needs a rest.

I am sorry, Mr. Chairman. I am unfortunately not available to take over as manager in the summer.

So the team for me:

Given

Zabaleta - Onuoha - Toure - Bridge

SWP - Ireland - Vieira - A.Johnson

Tevez - Adebayor

Mate, I couldn't agree more with this if I tried.

That side will murder Bolton, no question about it. They can all play ball and we'd pass Bolton into millions of pieces.

Also, my biggest critism for Mancini so far is overlooking SWP. He is more valuable to the side than most people understand.

Not sure I agree with that mate. SWP is sensational at times but his 'give the ball away' stats must be appalling, and sometimes he still looks like little boy lost out there. One thing we cannot be doing is giving the ball away so much if we want to push onto the CL etc, so I would suggest that is why Bobby is over looking him.

Given
Zabba Toure Lescott Bridge
AJ Vieira Barry Bellamy
Tevez Ade

There's already a thread on this

http://www.mancityfans.net/mcfnet/viewtopic.php?f=119&t=30230

We need the cover that NDJ gives, he`s the only one who gets stuck into the opposition,so for me;

Given
Zab Toure Lescott Bridge

NDJ
SWP Vieira Ireland

Tevez Ade

john@staustell wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

Tokyo Blue wrote:I am more than likely going to get blasted for this, but fucl it.

I personally would not have de Jong anywhere near the team at home. I think a midfielder who never gets forward is a liability. Can anyone remember him even having a shot on target in his 12 months with us? I can't. I am not criticising the lad because perhaps he is doing what he is told to do, but I'd like four midfielders who can both attack and defend. My four can do that and, supplemented by Tevez who will work his nads off regardless, we should be coping ok defensively. A proper midfield will also help the full-backs, who have been seen by some as a weak area in the team this year. Width on both sides should allow us to stretch Bolton on our wide pitch.

Time has come for Boyata to go back to the reserves and apply the lessons he has learnt in his first-team spell. We need Bellamy for the FA Cup tie. I would not risk Richards or Lescott if not fully fit. Gareth Barry needs a rest.

I am sorry, Mr. Chairman. I am unfortunately not available to take over as manager in the summer.

So the team for me:

Given

Zabaleta - Onuoha - Toure - Bridge

SWP - Ireland - Vieira - A.Johnson

Tevez - Adebayor

Mate, I couldn't agree more with this if I tried.

That side will murder Bolton, no question about it. They can all play ball and we'd pass Bolton into millions of pieces.

Also, my biggest critism for Mancini so far is overlooking SWP. He is more valuable to the side than most people understand.

Not sure I agree with that mate. SWP is sensational at times but his 'give the ball away' stats must be appalling, and sometimes he still looks like little boy lost out there. One thing we cannot be doing is giving the ball away so much if we want to push onto the CL etc, so I would suggest that is why Bobby is over looking him.

Given
Zabba Toure Lescott Bridge
AJ Vieira Barry Bellamy
Tevez Ade

SWP had most succesfull dribbles in whole league last season so statistic seem to confirm my opinion. EVERY winger loses ball every now and then. If no one would try, we'd have 10 De Jong's and Barry's passing the ball sideways.

I reckon Mancini will play.


Given---Zaba---Toure----Boyata----Bridge------Barry----De Jong----Vieria---Johnson---Ireland----Tevez

lets all have a disco wrote:I reckon Mancini will play.


Given---Zaba---Toure----Boyata----Bridge------Barry----De Jong----Vieria---Johnson---Ireland----Tevez

11 goalkeepers, now that is defensive ;-)

Agree strongly with above
We cannot wait for Adebayor to turn up in matches. Apart from his brilliant explosive start in August, September he has failed to convince me that he is a top four player.
PLUS
I genuinely believe he and Tevez are getting in each others way.

AlpsMaster wrote:

Tokyo Blue wrote:Can anyone remember him even having a shot on target in his 12 months with us? I can't.

I don't disagree with your argument that we don't necessarily need to play such a defensive midfield at home against lesser teams, but NDJ did hit a fantastic shot on target away at Scunny which forced an excellent save to deny him his first goal. Admittedly that's the only one I can remember.

So, just to make it clear, he has had one shot on target, and that against a mid-table team from the division below, in 12 months. That we can remember.

Can someone, preferably one of you that thinks NdJ is wonderful (cos I know there are loads of you), what exactly this man is doing when we have got the ball? Because it certainly isn't trying to score.

dikdik wrote:I genuinely believe he and Tevez are getting in each others way.

Not so much as getting in each others way but their games do not suit each others. Tevez likes to drop deep, very deep sometimes.

Adebayor likes to go out to the wings. So we often get the situation where Tevez has won the ball in the middle passed it out to Adebayor on the wing who then has nobody to pass to in the box - ocassionally Bellamy might get there but he is then outnumbered 4 to 1.

We lack a spear at the front of the attack. Roque Santa Cruz (for all his injury faults) is a fantastic spear. When fit he gets goals. We scored two tap-in's when we played against Sunderland. We never score tap-ins as we don't get enough players into the six yard box.

You'll only find Tevez and Adebayor in the six yard box if there is a corner or set piece.

The other day someone made a fantastic point that Tevez is having a negative effect on Ireland as he is doing his job in the midfield. Ireland loves to give throughballs but at the moment nobody is in the position to receive these eye through the needle passes. Bridge, against Hull was the only player in our team to make such a run. That also needs to be considered.

MaineRoadMemories wrote:

lets all have a disco wrote:I reckon Mancini will play.


Given---Zaba---Toure----Boyata----Bridge------Barry----De Jong----Vieria---Johnson---Ireland----Tevez

11 goalkeepers, now that is defensive ;-)

I was gonna include Fernandes till i realised he had been sold.

I'd also maybe play Ned in the middle aswell,hey why not?

Joking aside,GO 4-4-2 AT HOME MANCINI YOU FUCKING WEAPON.

Given----------Zabs---Toure---Onouha-----Bridge----SWP---Vieria---Ireland-----A Johnson--Ade---Carlos.

As we're still patching up holes left by 1st choicers, this isn't my ideal team. But;

------------------Given

Zabba---Nedum------Toure---Bridge

SWP-----Viera--------Ireland---Johnson

---------Tevez---------Ade

But I still think we're better suited in the 451 formation when we're at full strength

------------------Given

Richards---Toure----Lescott(Vinny?)---Bridge

SWP---Ireland--Viera--Barry(De Jong?)---Johnson

-----------------Tevez (Ade?)

We play much better football in this formation, but that is as long as we play 1 DF 1 B2B and 1 AM and not 2 DF's and 1 running round not knowing what they are doing.

An interesting one would be to try & guess what team Mancini will pick. I can't even begin to guess.

I could imagine him starting Vieira, Barry & DeJong but equally just Vieira & an attacking formation. I'd go for the latter, resting Bellamy with Johnson on the left but I've not got a scooby what Mancini will do. Could just as easily start with Petrov on the right, SWP on the left & Johnson in the middle behind Tevez or Ade or both or RSC if he's fit.

No idea.