Says it all really.

[Ted Hughes]

Que?

Which bit do you disagree with, Hughes pissing in the wind since xmas 08, or Robinho leaving 4 weeks after Mancini arrived in order to play more games before the world cup?

Otherwise Mancini had told him he would play every other game but lets not have facts get in the way of yet another tedious attempt to discredit the previous management.

You have missed the point completely. I was to some extent actually defending Hughes with my original post, as I felt right from the very start there was another agenda with Robinho. I can't accept that Hughes was so stupid as to play Robinho week after excruciating week, especially after he did his disappearing act unless there was another agenda at play. You only have to look at the sponsorship all over Robinho on Sunday to work out what that could have been.

It wouldnt have been the first time we played someone purely for commercial reasons.

However, you chose to point out that the management felt that Robinho would come good eventually. If true, then that is as damning indictment of Hughes' tenure as you can get, because in the last calendar year, he was fucking dreadful - and it was an embarrassment he kept getting picked, now if he wasnt being leaned on which is my preferred theory and gives some credit to Hughes, Hughes WAS pissing in the wind and hoping for the best - you can't have it both ways.

Mancini seems to have addressed the problem immediately. As you say, he told the little spoiled shit he would only get a game every other week, because he doesn't believe the player deserves a place on merit, a view shared and supported by what appears to be the vast majority on here.

Defending Hughes my arse. Is that the same majority who slaughtered Hughes for 'not getting the best out of him' & were saying what a fantastic player he'd be in Mancini's Barcelona like system? That majority?

[Im_Spartacus]

Que?

Which bit do you disagree with, Hughes pissing in the wind since xmas 08, or Robinho leaving 4 weeks after Mancini arrived in order to play more games before the world cup?

Otherwise Mancini had told him he would play every other game but lets not have facts get in the way of yet another tedious attempt to discredit the previous management.

You have missed the point completely. I was to some extent actually defending Hughes with my original post, as I felt right from the very start there was another agenda with Robinho. I can't accept that Hughes was so stupid as to play Robinho week after excruciating week, especially after he did his disappearing act unless there was another agenda at play. You only have to look at the sponsorship all over Robinho on Sunday to work out what that could have been.

It wouldnt have been the first time we played someone purely for commercial reasons.

However, you chose to point out that the management felt that Robinho would come good eventually. If true, then that is as damning indictment of Hughes' tenure as you can get, because in the last calendar year, he was fucking dreadful - and it was an embarrassment he kept getting picked, now if he wasnt being leaned on which is my preferred theory and gives some credit to Hughes, Hughes WAS pissing in the wind and hoping for the best - you can't have it both ways.

Mancini seems to have addressed the problem immediately. As you say, he told the little spoiled shit he would only get a game every other week, because he doesn't believe the player deserves a place on merit, a view shared and supported by what appears to be the vast majority on here.

Defending Hughes my arse. Is that the same majority who slaughtered Hughes for 'not getting the best out of him' & were saying what a fantastic player he'd be in Mancini's Barcelona like system? That majority?

Can't comment on that mate, I dont recall that.

I do recall this 14 page thread recently though, with a general consensus that he should leave, which would suggest that a big majority on here do support Mancini's view that Robbie doesnt deserve a place in the team.

viewtopic.php?f=119&t=29795

I thought it was an unusually harmonious thread all things considered, possibly the one with the biggest consensus perversely since the day Robbie signed and we were all on cloud 9.

[zuricity]

Que?

Which bit do you disagree with, Hughes pissing in the wind since xmas 08, or Robinho leaving 4 weeks after Mancini arrived in order to play more games before the world cup?

Otherwise Mancini had told him he would play every other game but lets not have facts get in the way of yet another tedious attempt to discredit the previous management.

Mute point , I thik the previous management were very good at discrediting themselves without our help.

I think johnpb78 is quite right in his assessment. It looks like Mancini won't tolerate wasters and although I like Robinho, with the rubbish that he now appears to be spouting out is not doing himself any favours.

[Ted Hughes]

Que?

Which bit do you disagree with, Hughes pissing in the wind since xmas 08, or Robinho leaving 4 weeks after Mancini arrived in order to play more games before the world cup?

Otherwise Mancini had told him he would play every other game but lets not have facts get in the way of yet another tedious attempt to discredit the previous management.

Mute point , I thik the previous management were very good at discrediting themselves without our help.

Strange you feel the need to offer so much of it then especially so long after they've gone.

[zuricity]

Que?

Which bit do you disagree with, Hughes pissing in the wind since xmas 08, or Robinho leaving 4 weeks after Mancini arrived in order to play more games before the world cup?

Otherwise Mancini had told him he would play every other game but lets not have facts get in the way of yet another tedious attempt to discredit the previous management.

Mute point , I thik the previous management were very good at discrediting themselves without our help.

Strange you feel the need to offer so much of it then especially so long after they've gone.

Not really Ted. I didn't care for Hughes and his cohorts ever.

However, It does seem odd that all of a sudden everyday in the Media either someone is having a go at Robinho, or they
are having a dig at the club. His comment about Mancini if true, wasn't actually that bad.

However, I do think that Mancini since arriving, appears to be very even handed with all the squad. He's not restricted anybody from the opportunity of playing ( so far !) and furthermore he's told the players what he expects to see on the pitch. It appears that Robinho isn't willing to work that way for Mancini.

[Im_Spartacus]

Que?

Which bit do you disagree with, Hughes pissing in the wind since xmas 08, or Robinho leaving 4 weeks after Mancini arrived in order to play more games before the world cup?

Otherwise Mancini had told him he would play every other game but lets not have facts get in the way of yet another tedious attempt to discredit the previous management.

Mute point , I thik the previous management were very good at discrediting themselves without our help.

Strange you feel the need to offer so much of it then especially so long after they've gone.

Strange you feel the need to offer so much defence to a manager who was sacked so long after he has gone

Edit to say: If you look back through my posts since Hughes has gone, I dont think you will find me criticising him very often. I even went to far recently to say that I can look back quite fondly at the memories of early last season in particular as being a vital part of the journey we are now on.

[Slim]

Good to see we can still turn everything into a Clueless debate.

[Beeks]

Good to see we can still turn everything into a Clueless debate.

Beat me to it...I never speak ill of the deceased

[Im_Spartacus]

Good to see we can still turn everything into a Clueless debate.

Fucking bizarre this mate, I think I am caught up in a parrallel reality with Ted here, I have even lost the gist of what we are arguing about.

[Original Dub]

Good to see we can still turn everything into a Clueless debate.

Aye but the burning question is, was clueless in charge, or is cluless in charge now? :)

[Im_Spartacus]

Good to see we can still turn everything into a Clueless debate.

Aye but the burning question is, was clueless in charge, or is cluless in charge now? :)

This next 6 months is gonna be fucking horrendous on here if it all goes tits up.

[Slim]

Good to see we can still turn everything into a Clueless debate.

Aye but the burning question is, was clueless in charge, or is cluless in charge now? :)

But we can only judge Mancini over the course of a full season, after he has had a couple of transfer windows. Sorry, I know there was about 246 excuses you had for Clueless but they all sort of blended into a low pitch annoying hum after a while.

[Original Dub]

Good to see we can still turn everything into a Clueless debate.

Aye but the burning question is, was clueless in charge, or is cluless in charge now? :)

But we can only judge Mancini over the course of a full season, after he has had a couple of transfer windows. Sorry, I know there was about 246 excuses you had for Clueless but they all sort of blended into a low pitch annoying hum after a while.

so did your whinging about him being not good enough after a couple of months.

Kettle and pots.

[Beefymcfc]

You know what, I have decided that I want Hughes' attacking, Mancini's defending and Robbie's skilful grace!

Am I a fool for believing we can have it all? (No throwing Snickers now)

[Im_Spartacus]

You know what, I have decided that I want Hughes' attacking, Mancini's defending and Robbie's skilful grace!

Am I a fool for believing we can have it all? (No throwing Snickers now)

Baconface is your man

[Beefymcfc]

You know what, I have decided that I want Hughes' attacking, Mancini's defending and Robbie's skilful grace!

Am I a fool for believing we can have it all? (No throwing Snickers now)

Baconface is your man

You could be right, so who's the upcoming Brandy Nosed Baconfaced McTavish?

I've noticed Mancio is looking a bit red on the nose, does sound a little Scottish (well, none English anyway) and has an M and a C in his name!!! Mmmmmm, he could be the man afterall?

[eastlands-lostboy]

He should be ashamed of himself. Latest from Mark Bowen is that "he was not up to the job"

[Ted Hughes]

Que?

Which bit do you disagree with, Hughes pissing in the wind since xmas 08, or Robinho leaving 4 weeks after Mancini arrived in order to play more games before the world cup?

Otherwise Mancini had told him he would play every other game but lets not have facts get in the way of yet another tedious attempt to discredit the previous management.

Mute point , I thik the previous management were very good at discrediting themselves without our help.

Strange you feel the need to offer so much of it then especially so long after they've gone.

Strange you feel the need to offer so much defence to a manager who was sacked so long after he has gone

Edit to say: If you look back through my posts since Hughes has gone, I dont think you will find me criticising him very often. I even went to far recently to say that I can look back quite fondly at the memories of early last season in particular as being a vital part of the journey we are now on.

Didn't mean you.