Happy?

[MARKMAKAVELI]

I'll never understand people who would rather watch shit football as long as they win.

Why do we all watch football? To be entertained. I know ideally everyone wants to mix the two together like Barca.

The fun in football is the entertainment, the trophies are a bonus/reward.

[Alex Sapphire]

trophies are for players. That's why they play.
If you are a player, then you should have a win at all costs "mindset" because there will always be a team better skilled or better drilled than yours.
as a spectator, I need to be entertained and to have the pleasure of knowing we won not because we were lucky or negative, or dirty, but because we outthought and/or outplayed the other lot.

[Rag_hater]

trophies are for players. That's why they play.
If you are a player, then you should have a win at all costs "mindset" because there will always be a team better skilled or better drilled than yours.
as a spectator, I need to be entertained and to have the pleasure of knowing we won not because we were lucky or negative, or dirty, but because we outthought and/or outplayed the other lot.

I'll never understand people who would rather watch shit football as long as they win.

Why do we all watch football? To be entertained. I know ideally everyone wants to mix the two together like Barca.

The fun in football is the entertainment, the trophies are a bonus/reward.

I've had enough of that.I want to win.

[john68]

After so many years of failure, it is reasonaable to want success. In fact there are some who have never seen any success and they want it at almost any price. A win is a win and three points gives you that satisfied feeling when you leave the grounD that "WE WON".
A quick look at the league table and the fact that we should be in the next round of the Cup when the draw is made also has a level of satisfaction that we can all enjoy.
...and lastly, the chance to look forward and dream that we could finish in the top 4 and/or win the cup gives us a level of enjoyment.

BUT AT WHAT PRICE?....AND IS IT A PRICE WE WANT TO PAY?
I look at our squad and the quality we can put on the field. I look at some of the great football I know they are capable of...because I've seen it and I feel disappointed that what I am seeing now is FUNCTIONAL rather than ENTERTAINING. These players are capable of giving us so much more...and I would like to see that.
If I was only worried about the result, there would be little point in attending. When I sit in a cold stand for 90 minutes, I want to see something. Not a machine with its cogs all woking efficiently and boring me to tears. I want to see a show. I want to go "WOW" and I want to cheer and applaud great passes, great movement, great individual skills.
Last night, there was an inevitability that we won win. Apart from a couple of incidents, I was NOT entertained. I was frustrated at the apparent confusion, at bad passing, the lack of movement, the lack of exciting football.
Last night, I sat and watched with very little excitement, too few chances to shout "WOW" and at the end only had the satisfaction of the score...Not the satisfaction of the performance.
WITH THE PLAYERS ON THE FIELD...I FELT SOMEWHAT CHEATED.

[Rag_hater]

After so many years of failure, it is reasonaable to want success. In fact there are some who have never seen any success and they want it at almost any price. A win is a win and three points gives you that satisfied feeling when you leave the grounD that "WE WON".
A quick look at the league table and the fact that we should be in the next round of the Cup when the draw is made also has a level of satisfaction that we can all enjoy.
...and lastly, the chance to look forward and dream that we could finish in the top 4 and/or win the cup gives us a level of enjoyment.

BUT AT WHAT PRICE?....AND IS IT A PRICE WE WANT TO PAY?
I look at our squad and the quality we can put on the field. I look at some of the great football I know they are capable of...because I've seen it and I feel disappointed that what I am seeing now is FUNCTIONAL rather than ENTERTAINING. These players are capable of giving us so much more...and I would like to see that.
If I was only worried about the result, there would be little point in attending. When I sit in a cold stand for 90 minutes, I want to see something. Not a machine with its cogs all woking efficiently and boring me to tears. I want to see a show. I want to go "WOW" and I want to cheer and applaud great passes, great movement, great individual skills.
Last night, there was an inevitability that we won win. Apart from a couple of incidents, I was NOT entertained. I was frustrated at the apparent confusion, at bad passing, the lack of movement, the lack of exciting football.
Last night, I sat and watched with very little excitement, too few chances to shout "WOW" and at the end only had the satisfaction of the score...Not the satisfaction of the performance.
WITH THE PLAYERS ON THE FIELD...I FELT SOMEWHAT CHEATED.

I'm sure you know though John, that you a lot of the time dont get what you want.
And if being a little bit bored is the price of getting some of what we want then surely its a price worth paying.

[Original Dub]

trophies are for players. That's why they play.
If you are a player, then you should have a win at all costs "mindset" because there will always be a team better skilled or better drilled than yours.
as a spectator, I need to be entertained and to have the pleasure of knowing we won not because we were lucky or negative, or dirty, but because we outthought and/or outplayed the other lot.

I'll never understand people who would rather watch shit football as long as they win.

Why do we all watch football? To be entertained. I know ideally everyone wants to mix the two together like Barca.

The fun in football is the entertainment, the trophies are a bonus/reward.

I've had enough of that.I want to win.

text MY MCITY to 68886

[john@staustell]

I'll never understand people who would rather watch shit football as long as they win.

Why do we all watch football? To be entertained. I know ideally everyone wants to mix the two together like Barca.

The fun in football is the entertainment, the trophies are a bonus/reward.

I'm the reverse Marky. Sure it's nice to win in style but if we win every game 1-0 for the season a la Arsenal 1971 and win the league then I'm cool with that.

I actually watch City to watch us win.

Would you rather lose a brilliant 5-4 than win a dull 1-0? Not me mate!

I watch other teams playing each other for incidental 'entertainment'.

[ronk]

It wasn't a great performance and there were times when it was obvious that we were forcing a tactical plan rather than playing natural football with a disjointed result.

But I was entertained. There was some good football on show. Johnson was electric, we tried to pass our way through Bolton (even if we weren't doing such a great job), in the first 10 minutes we came out of the traps and could have killed off the match the way we were cutting them apart. But when we didn't win it there and then we never looked as good. We changed formation well in response to them -- that's always pleasing to see, who doesn't get something from that.

In a lot of ways there was a little of something for every fan. We worked hard especially from the front, we passed the ball, there was some good running at defenders, we were reasonably solid, kept a clean sheet, brought back/introduced different players who we've missed, won, Adam Johnson, Vieira passed well at times, Adebayor, Adebayor's goal &c.

Atmosphere is never as good for mid-week games.

[Rag_hater]

trophies are for players. That's why they play.
If you are a player, then you should have a win at all costs "mindset" because there will always be a team better skilled or better drilled than yours.
as a spectator, I need to be entertained and to have the pleasure of knowing we won not because we were lucky or negative, or dirty, but because we outthought and/or outplayed the other lot.

I'll never understand people who would rather watch shit football as long as they win.

Why do we all watch football? To be entertained. I know ideally everyone wants to mix the two together like Barca.

The fun in football is the entertainment, the trophies are a bonus/reward.

I've had enough of that.I want to win.

text MY MCITY to 68886

If my internet breaks down I might have to

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I'll never understand people who would rather watch shit football as long as they win.

Why do we all watch football? To be entertained. I know ideally everyone wants to mix the two together like Barca.

The fun in football is the entertainment, the trophies are a bonus/reward.

I'm the reverse Marky. Sure it's nice to win in style but if we win every game 1-0 for the season a la Arsenal 1971 and win the league then I'm cool with that.

I actually watch City to watch us win.

Would you rather lose a brilliant 5-4 than win a dull 1-0? Not me mate!

I watch other teams playing each other for incidental 'entertainment'.

I'm right with you. And that last sentence is ingenious.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Have I missed it or has nobody started a thread on player ratings for the Bolton game?

Symptomatic of not being happy with the game that nobody could be bothered thinking about individual perfromances when the team's was so poor.

[Ted Hughes]

Atmosphere is never as good for mid-week games.

It was like death & not just because of a midweek game. We have to improve from that or we'll start losing at home it will turn nasty. Some City fans may settle for crap football & winning but very few City fans will settle for crap football & not winning. It was one Bolton goal away from open hostility last night.

[Blue2]

Have I missed it or has nobody started a thread on player ratings for the Bolton game?

Symptomatic of not being happy with the game that nobody could be bothered thinking about individual perfromances when the team's was so poor.

thats your interperation mate, dont think it was a poor performance at all.

[Original Dub]

Have I missed it or has nobody started a thread on player ratings for the Bolton game?

Symptomatic of not being happy with the game that nobody could be bothered thinking about individual perfromances when the team's was so poor.

thats your interperation mate, dont think it was a poor performance at all.

Hold on, there's arguments all over the board about whether your preference is entertainment or results.... that's one thing, but you're actually happy with the performance itself?!!

They mad us look very very ordinary.... actually no, cuntface Coyle got it wrong - we made ourselves look very very ordinary and its largely because our midfield had scored one goal between them this season.

That was a DROSS performance mate - delighted with the result of course, but no doubt it was our second DROSS home performance against terrible opposition on the bounce.

If we "perform" like that against Spurs and Liverpool we will have the shite knocked out of us, because Bolton would have at least drawn if they'd a better quality of player in attack and the linesman hadn't helped us out.

[pepsi_dave]

I voted yes....

It wasn't the best performace we're ever likely to see, but at the end of the day, the players went out there and they did their job, the got two goals, kept a clean sheet, and ultimately got the 3 points. It's a results business, not a performances business..... and we got the result, end of!!!

I'm happy because the performance got the job done, but I also don't think that was anywhere near our best performance.

Question, why do we need to perform to the aboslute top of our game against teams like Bolton, when last night clearly showed that we simply don't/didn't need to?

[john68]

I suppose ity all comes down to what you want for your money.

If I had not bothered to attend, I would have missed the shite and been happy with the result.
If I attend, I have paid to be entertained.

[Geo123]

I was very happy with last nights game.If we play like that for the rest of the season it will be fine by me.The only week links for me last night were PV and maybe Shay.The rest were 7 or 8 out of 10 for me.

7 or 8 out of ten....Tevez and Ade were shocking, its all well and good saying there strikers their job is to score but against any have decent side they wouldnt of tonight... Ades whilst a good finish was due to shocking defending and Tevez well what can i say (very lucky).....

These players created nothing together...i couldnt see cole giving away a penalty that easily or Ade getting that time and space against Terry. That free Tevez hit off the bar was a floater if that had went in from that distance, Jussi would want putting down.

[Original Dub]

I voted yes....

It wasn't the best performace we're ever likely to see, but at the end of the day, the players went out there and they did their job, the got two goals, kept a clean sheet, and ultimately got the 3 points. It's a results business, not a performances business..... and we got the result, end of!!!

I'm happy because the performance got the job done, but I also don't think that was anywhere near our best performance.

Question, why do we need to perform to the aboslute top of our game against teams like Bolton, when last night clearly showed that we simply don't/didn't need to?

Answer - because you want to breed confidence throughout the squad and knocking the shit out of lesser teams at home is a fantastic way to get into your groove for tough away games and upcoming games against the top sides in the country.

Nervy, negative home performances don't, as proven after the Pompey game which led to our loss against Hull.

I'm hoping to God that this latest performance doesn't have the same effect again, but nothing I've seen SO FAR convinces me this won't be case.

Hopeful, but very worried. That's how'd describe my feeling going into every game lately. Its probably how the players feel too, because that's how it looks SO FAR.

[pepsi_dave]

I voted yes....

It wasn't the best performace we're ever likely to see, but at the end of the day, the players went out there and they did their job, the got two goals, kept a clean sheet, and ultimately got the 3 points. It's a results business, not a performances business..... and we got the result, end of!!!

I'm happy because the performance got the job done, but I also don't think that was anywhere near our best performance.

Question, why do we need to perform to the aboslute top of our game against teams like Bolton, when last night clearly showed that we simply don't/didn't need to?

Answer - because you want to breed confidence throughout the squad and knocking the shit out of lesser teams at home is a fantastic way to get into your groove for tough away games and upcoming games against the top sides in the country.

Nervy, negative home performances don't, as proven after the Pompey game which led to our loss against Hull.

I'm hoping to God that this latest performance doesn't have the same effect again, but nothing I've seen SO FAR convinces me this won't be case.

Hopeful, but very worried. That's how'd describe my feeling going into every game lately. Its probably how the players feel too, because that's how it looks SO FAR.

Although I can see your point, I'm not so sure it's as simple as that. You need confidence to put in confident performances, and after the OT defeat, and in the way that it happend, and in that stage of the competition, it really knocked the stuffing out of us, you could see that agains portsmouth.

The hull game also showed that, but surely the only way of building confidence is by winning matches, keeping clean sheets surely must help build confidence aswell. I would imagine that we'll beat stoke on saturday, and following that assuming we can get a result at stoke away, by the time the liverpool comes round, 3 wins on the bounce (hopefully), and a "6 pointer" against our 4th spot rivals at the moment would surely be enough to bring out the confidence in the players, especially in front of our own fans.....

Confidence doesnt just appear in the snap of the fingers or one result (It can however leave in the blink of an eye as we have seen) it has to grow..... I firmly believe that last night will improve our confidence, and thats exactly what we need at the mo going into a 5th round cup draw against the same team we'll be playing away 3 days later.

[Original Dub]

I voted yes....

It wasn't the best performace we're ever likely to see, but at the end of the day, the players went out there and they did their job, the got two goals, kept a clean sheet, and ultimately got the 3 points. It's a results business, not a performances business..... and we got the result, end of!!!

I'm happy because the performance got the job done, but I also don't think that was anywhere near our best performance.

Question, why do we need to perform to the aboslute top of our game against teams like Bolton, when last night clearly showed that we simply don't/didn't need to?

Answer - because you want to breed confidence throughout the squad and knocking the shit out of lesser teams at home is a fantastic way to get into your groove for tough away games and upcoming games against the top sides in the country.

Nervy, negative home performances don't, as proven after the Pompey game which led to our loss against Hull.

I'm hoping to God that this latest performance doesn't have the same effect again, but nothing I've seen SO FAR convinces me this won't be case.

Hopeful, but very worried. That's how'd describe my feeling going into every game lately. Its probably how the players feel too, because that's how it looks SO FAR.

Although I can see your point, I'm not so sure it's as simple as that. You need confidence to put in confident performances, and after the OT defeat, and in the way that it happend, and in that stage of the competition, it really knocked the stuffing out of us, you could see that agains portsmouth.

The hull game also showed that, but surely the only way of building confidence is by winning matches, keeping clean sheets surely must help build confidence aswell. I would imagine that we'll beat stoke on saturday, and following that assuming we can get a result at stoke away, by the time the liverpool comes round, 3 wins on the bounce (hopefully), and a "6 pointer" against our 4th spot rivals at the moment would surely be enough to bring out the confidence in the players, especially in front of our own fans.....

Confidence doesnt just appear in the snap of the fingers or one result (It can however leave in the blink of an eye as we have seen) it has to grow..... I firmly believe that last night will improve our confidence, and thats exactly what we need at the mo going into a 5th round cup draw against the same team we'll be playing away 3 days later.

Fair enough mate, good post and I hope you're right, but you would have thought, based on that theory, that beating Pompey would have drove us on to perform against Hull, but the fact is that we look disjointed and being disjointed suits the dippers and spuds down to tee.

Having said that, the players should be able to lift themselves for the big games because they did so against Chelsea and Arsenal at home - I just hope we have a go at them the same way we had a go before. And that we don't line up with three defensive midfielders of course.