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THE HARDER YOU WORK THE HARDER IT IS TO SURRENDER

Postby trout man » Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:48 am

So says Craig Bellamy...loved the new video he is doing for the Scouse1 game at home on the OS. I know I mentioned this on the Steven Ireland thread, but I really do not like our motto of 'Pride in Battle', I think it lacks class and exudes arrogance as Pride is generally a superficial feeling based on ones interpretation of whether you think your right or not...so goes the saying 'Pride comes before a fall' and fuck me we have done a lot of falling. In fact I believe our current motto is like a self fullfilling anti-prophesy Just wondering how others feel about our motto and should we have a rethink?
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Postby BobKowalski » Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:56 am

I agree on the 'Pride in Battle' bit. Its crass.
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Postby Mase » Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:12 pm

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Postby trout man » Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:22 pm



Wasnt aware that it was a Vince Lombardi quote, but I like it more than 'pride in battle' and if it gives us an insight into what drives the mentality of Bellamy and the subsequent effort that is visible to everyone in the footballing world.
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Postby Mase » Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:25 pm

trout man wrote:


Wasnt aware that it was a Vince Lombardi quote, but I like it more than 'pride in battle' and if it gives us an insight into what drives the mentality of Bellamy and the subsequent effort that is visible to everyone in the footballing world.


Wouldn't surprise me if Bellers had it tattooed on him somewhere.
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Postby Wonderwall » Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:27 pm

I would be really proud to pull on the blue shirt, cross the white line and battle like fuck for our team... nowt wrong with it whatsoever, give over you bunch of over sensitive analytic ponces
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Postby trout man » Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:41 pm

MaseCTID wrote:
trout man wrote:


Wasnt aware that it was a Vince Lombardi quote, but I like it more than 'pride in battle' and if it gives us an insight into what drives the mentality of Bellamy and the subsequent effort that is visible to everyone in the footballing world.


Wouldn't surprise me if Bellers had it tattooed on him somewhere.


He would probably tell you its on his cock!
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Postby ashton287 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:44 pm

NOOOOO, pride in battle is hard as fuck. Some fans need to stop trying so hard to find fault with the club and everything it does.
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Postby trout man » Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:50 pm

Wonderwall wrote:I would be really proud to pull on the blue shirt, cross the white line and battle like fuck for our team... nowt wrong with it whatsoever, give over you bunch of over sensitive analytic ponces


Glad we are 'stirring your juices' Wonderwall, but the problem is, particularly in the modern game, that many of them are not playing for pride...pride maybe restricted to the amateur game or the lower leagues but there are few players going out there week in week out in the premier league and playing with pride and it still doesnt detract from the fact that its ok to be proud but it is still a selfish feeling..its about how YOU feel about yourself or how you feel as a father watching your son score the winner in a FA cup final...you feel superior, you feel good about yourself/for your son, but I would believe more in the philosophy of 'band of brothers' where it is about self sacrifice for the good of the whole, about looking out for one another, etc....i'm boring myself..anyway maybe thats where the word SAP comes from...Sensitive Analytic Ponces..always wondered that.

PS Robinho kissing the badge at Santos just about sums up the attitude of many players....the opposite would be Johnsons display the other night..enjoying life and football
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Postby trout man » Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:52 pm

ashton287 wrote:NOOOOO, pride in battle is hard as fuck. Some fans need to stop trying so hard to find fault with the club and everything it does.


Thanks for summing it up so eloquently......we really are soooo hard at the moment so its obviously having an impact
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Postby brite blu sky » Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:29 pm

well personally i like Pride in Battle. I dont have a problem with pride, dont see it as negative particularly.

the problem starts if anyone displays too much pride for their own good.

conversely if you are someone who displays no pride at all, you are not going to be much use to a cause are you?

anyways i like the interpretaion of Pride as the name we use for a group of Lions that have formed a social unit ( family )
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Postby MaineRoadMemories » Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:33 pm

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Can't beat Villa's. Their motto is the best. (for boy scouts and girl guides)
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Postby Mark (Blue Army) » Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:46 pm

I think it's a top saying and Bellers definitely goes by it for every game.
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Postby The Man In Blue » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:23 pm

with a bit of work i have come up with:

"DURIORUS LABORE, DURUS DEDITIO"

i am somewhat lacking in comparative adverbs though.
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Postby trout man » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:56 pm

The Man In Blue wrote:with a bit of work i have come up with:

"DURIORUS LABORE, DURUS DEDITIO"

i am somewhat lacking in comparative adverbs though.


That'll do Man in Blue, that'll do.
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Postby sandman » Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:19 pm

Wonderwall wrote:I would be really proud to pull on the blue shirt, cross the white line and battle like fuck for our team... nowt wrong with it whatsoever, give over you bunch of over sensitive analytic ponces


I love it, it sums up how i'd feel if I ever got the chance to play for city.

IMF has it right down his forearm, I think it looks great, if I was a bit younger and single I think i'd like something like that?
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Postby Beeks » Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:41 pm

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