Mancini OUT

[Beefymcfc]

I'll comment........MANCINI IN.

[Dunne's Half-Time Pint]

we look silly.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

nobody has called me a cunt yet for starting the thread. speaks volumes about our manager.

I really dont want or expect him to be sacked, it was more a tongue in cheek thread, but some interesting response

I don't think you should be called a cunt for that. IF you HONESTLY believe that we'd be better off without him and he is hindering our progress in long term then you can say so.

How you could've reached that conclusion in two months when the results have been pretty good overall is different thing.

[Dunne's Half-Time Pint]

nobody has called me a cunt yet for starting the thread. speaks volumes about our manager.

I really dont want or expect him to be sacked, it was more a tongue in cheek thread, but some interesting response

I don't think you should be called a cunt for that. IF you HONESTLY believe that we'd be better off without him and he is hindering our progress in long term then you can say so.

How you could've reached that conclusion in two months when the results have been pretty good overall is different thing.

long-term... whatever.... words... can't be arsed.

However, honestly, he's hindering my enjoyment at the moment. I'm just pleased we're on the TV a lot - because I'd rather use the old 'entertainment budget' to go and see a gig/have some pints.

[razor400]

Mrs razor here. As a neutral I'm still seeing that one enduring problem City have...the blowing hot and cold during the match. For some reason, and it escapes me why, you can turn from completely mind blowing football (even with 3 defensive mids) to when we gonna get to the pub Sunday league. I'm sorry but that's not management. That's "erm..excuse me highly paid players... pull your bloody finger out on the pitch, use your bloody brains in conjunction with your feet and play a consistent 90 minutes."
No matter what the set up there is enough quality on that pitch to beat any team in the premiership. Your team is in the hunt at the moment for the FA Cup and the Champions league, they should be highly self motivated. I'm not seeing that week in week out. It's STILL patchy.

[DoomMerchant]

Mrs razor here. As a neutral I'm still seeing that one enduring problem City have...the blowing hot and cold during the match. For some reason, and it escapes me why, you can turn from completely mind blowing football (even with 3 defensive mids) to when we gonna get to the pub Sunday league. I'm sorry but that's not management. That's "erm..excuse me highly paid players... pull your bloody finger out on the pitch, use your bloody brains in conjunction with your feet and play a consistent 90 minutes."
No matter what the set up there is enough quality on that pitch to beat any team in the premiership. Your team is in the hunt at the moment for the FA Cup and the Champions league, they should be highly self motivated. I'm not seeing that week in week out. It's STILL patchy.

i'd agree Madame Razor. it's fuclin puzzling and quizzical. Is the team not that fit? Do we change some tactics midmatch that confuse the fucl out of a few players and they go missing? It's astounding really...i thought the first 15-20 vs. Stoke were pretty good football and i thought surely we were going to bang one or two in and get the tie sorted, but we couldn't and you could just see us deflate, then bounce back for some 'better' football the last 15 or so. Still too many long balls, etc but some of them were nice, direct balls and i can't be an elitist about it...if the direct ball works and you score everyone loves it, if it doesn't you are playing shit football.

I believe the starting point is appointing a Captain who wants to be a vocal field general and get it sorted on the pitch.

cheers

[btajim]

I'm seeing very little from Mancini in the last few Matches to indicate he is going to be a significant improvement from any entertaining, flowing, attacking Football we've been given before. Perhaps he needs time to bring in the Players he wants to work with - but there's enough of them in the Squad now to ensure we're enjoying the Matches.

Yesterday was tedious. Our Goal was lucky and Stoke's was about as predictable as can be. I don't fancy much more than 1 point on Tuesday and some disappointment in the following week.

[razor400]

Mrs razor here. As a neutral I'm still seeing that one enduring problem City have...the blowing hot and cold during the match. For some reason, and it escapes me why, you can turn from completely mind blowing football (even with 3 defensive mids) to when we gonna get to the pub Sunday league. I'm sorry but that's not management. That's "erm..excuse me highly paid players... pull your bloody finger out on the pitch, use your bloody brains in conjunction with your feet and play a consistent 90 minutes."
No matter what the set up there is enough quality on that pitch to beat any team in the premiership. Your team is in the hunt at the moment for the FA Cup and the Champions league, they should be highly self motivated. I'm not seeing that week in week out. It's STILL patchy.

i'd agree Madame Razor. it's fuclin puzzling and quizzical. Is the team not that fit? Do we change some tactics midmatch that confuse the fucl out of a few players and they go missing? It's astounding really...i thought the first 15-20 vs. Stoke were pretty good football and i thought surely we were going to bang one or two in and get the tie sorted, but we couldn't and you could just see us deflate, then bounce back for some 'better' football the last 15 or so. Still too many long balls, etc but some of them were nice, direct balls and i can't be an elitist about it...if the direct ball works and you score everyone loves it, if it doesn't you are playing shit football.

I believe the starting point is appointing a Captain who wants to be a vocal field general and get it sorted on the pitch.

cheers

Spot on! If Shay Given was a central midfielder you'd have it cracked. Upon reflection I'm not sure the 'skeleton' of the first team has been created yet. And a leader would have to come from that backbone and I wouldn't have Toure in it. You'd have a herniated disc. Is it fair to blame Mancini for that. Not so sure. These aren't his players, he's had little or no budget and a shed load of injuries. If I had all the answers I'd be the first bird managing a prem team but I lean more to knowledge of tactics on the pitch than off it. Saying that he needs to bench Barry.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Just to re-iterate, he has my absolute full support.

I do not remotely want another change in manager....sacking Roberto Mancini after 6 months would just be a huge mistake, it would send out the worst signals about how the club is run. I agree with MCFC1632, if the board were not confident that Mancini was the right replacement then Hughes should have been given the full season if no other appropriate (long term) candidate were available.

But that does not change the fact that I am hating what I am seeing on the pitch currently and that worries me, it worries me that I am hearing that the natives are restless in the stands, it worries me that the owners/board might press the panic button again and that would be a massive blunder.

But I also understand that if fans are paying to sit and watch shit from the same players they have previously been entertained by, it is pretty natural that they will start to grumble and show their feelings quite quickly if they feel that the change of manager has actually taken the club backwards in performance/entertainment terms

ILL JUST AGREE WITH THIS POST WHICH IS PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME EVER.
BTW IM WATCHING BOLTON V SPURS AND IT IS A FANTASTIC MATCH TO WATCH...........50 TIMES MORE EXCITING THAN ANYTHING IVE SEEN SINCE OUR MATCH AGAINST WOLVES.
I REPEAT - ID RATHER WATCH ENTERTAINING FOOTBALL WITH MIXED RESULTS THAN WATCH THE SHIT IM WATCHING RIGHT NOW.....................LETS HOPE SOME OF THE POSTERS ARE RIGHT AND MANCINI IS CONCENTRATING ON THE DEFENCE ONLY..FOR NOW....BUT 10 PLAYERS DEFENDING DOESNT DO IT FOR ME IN ALL HONESTY.

[Im_Spartacus]

nobody has called me a cunt yet for starting the thread. speaks volumes about our manager.

I really dont want or expect him to be sacked, it was more a tongue in cheek thread, but some interesting response

I don't think you should be called a cunt for that. IF you HONESTLY believe that we'd be better off without him and he is hindering our progress in long term then you can say so.

How you could've reached that conclusion in two months when the results have been pretty good overall is different thing.

The results were pretty good in Hughes' first few months, didnt stop me being very disappointed with some aspects of the team's play and deciding pretty quickly that he was not our future because of the defensive aspects of the games we were winning.

Took you even less time as I remember, it is hard to take you seriously some times with your double standards.

[ant london]

ILL JUST AGREE WITH THIS POST WHICH IS PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME EVER.

I should be offended I guess but that made me fucking piss!!! pmsl

[carl_feedthegoat]

ILL JUST AGREE WITH THIS POST WHICH IS PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME EVER.

I should be offended I guess but that made me fucking piss!!! pmsl

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I PROBABLY EXAGGERATED BUT IT SOUNDED GOOD WHEN I WROTE IT.

[Im_Spartacus]

nobody has called me a cunt yet for starting the thread. speaks volumes about our manager.

I really dont want or expect him to be sacked, it was more a tongue in cheek thread, but some interesting response

That's cause I took it for a windup...which apparently is what you intended, just because people aren't as stupid as you think doesn't say fuck all about our manager, however it does "speak volumes" about you.

So 3 pages discussing it would suggest that there are quite a lot of stupid people on this board (in your opinion)

[ant london]

So 3 pages discussing it would suggest that there are quite a lot of stupid people on this board (in your opinion)

I think it's well established that EVERYONE apart from him is stupid

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

nobody has called me a cunt yet for starting the thread. speaks volumes about our manager.

I really dont want or expect him to be sacked, it was more a tongue in cheek thread, but some interesting response

I don't think you should be called a cunt for that. IF you HONESTLY believe that we'd be better off without him and he is hindering our progress in long term then you can say so.

How you could've reached that conclusion in two months when the results have been pretty good overall is different thing.

The results were pretty good in Hughes' first few months, didnt stop me being very disappointed with some aspects of the team's play and deciding pretty quickly that he was not our future because of the defensive aspects of the games we were winning.

Took you even less time as I remember, it is hard to take you seriously some times with your double standards.

Explain the much used "double standards". I didn't think Hughes was the man to take us forward ----> didn't want him in charge. I think Mancini is the man to take us forward ----> DO want him in charge. What is the double standards there? Do you expect ME to start topics like this just because I started them when Hughes was in charge? I think I always said that I prefer sticking with one man long term when it's the right man. I think Mancini's the right man.

But credit to you for not showing double standards, you want every manager out. What about when we have someone you think is the right man? Do I come here and call you out for double standards showing support?

May I also point out that I'm just about only one in this topic who showed you support despite not agreeing with the fundamental point. Everyone else though this is pretty ridiculous.

[DoomMerchant]

So 3 pages discussing it would suggest that there are quite a lot of stupid people on this board (in your opinion)

I think it's well established that EVERYONE apart from him is stupid

how dare you try and oversimplify the complexity of the man behind the moniker "Slim."

outrageous.

cheers

[DoomMerchant]

Just to re-iterate, he has my absolute full support.

I do not remotely want another change in manager....sacking Roberto Mancini after 6 months would just be a huge mistake, it would send out the worst signals about how the club is run. I agree with MCFC1632, if the board were not confident that Mancini was the right replacement then Hughes should have been given the full season if no other appropriate (long term) candidate were available.

But that does not change the fact that I am hating what I am seeing on the pitch currently and that worries me, it worries me that I am hearing that the natives are restless in the stands, it worries me that the owners/board might press the panic button again and that would be a massive blunder.

But I also understand that if fans are paying to sit and watch shit from the same players they have previously been entertained by, it is pretty natural that they will start to grumble and show their feelings quite quickly if they feel that the change of manager has actually taken the club backwards in performance/entertainment terms

ILL JUST AGREE WITH THIS POST WHICH IS PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME EVER.
BTW IM WATCHING BOLTON V SPURS AND IT IS A FANTASTIC MATCH TO WATCH...........50 TIMES MORE EXCITING THAN ANYTHING IVE SEEN SINCE OUR MATCH AGAINST WOLVES.
I REPEAT - ID RATHER WATCH ENTERTAINING FOOTBALL WITH MIXED RESULTS THAN WATCH THE SHIT IM WATCHING RIGHT NOW.....................LETS HOPE SOME OF THE POSTERS ARE RIGHT AND MANCINI IS CONCENTRATING ON THE DEFENCE ONLY..FOR NOW....BUT 10 PLAYERS DEFENDING DOESNT DO IT FOR ME IN ALL HONESTY.

i agree with that...i watched only about 30 mins of it before i got into some stuff today, but Bolton were playing nicer stuff than i've seen us play for a while. And Bale looked fantastic.

In contrast, our match yesterday was mostly like watching a relagation-tainted 6-pointer.

cheers

cheers

[mcfc1632]

nobody has called me a cunt yet for starting the thread. speaks volumes about our manager.

I really dont want or expect him to be sacked, it was more a tongue in cheek thread, but some interesting response

I don't think you should be called a cunt for that. IF you HONESTLY believe that we'd be better off without him and he is hindering our progress in long term then you can say so.

How you could've reached that conclusion in two months when the results have been pretty good overall is different thing.

The results were pretty good in Hughes' first few months, didnt stop me being very disappointed with some aspects of the team's play and deciding pretty quickly that he was not our future because of the defensive aspects of the games we were winning.

Took you even less time as I remember, it is hard to take you seriously some times with your double standards.

John - Friendly warning - be careful not to poke the guy's ego too much - certainly do not mention the "D-S" term - you might get the ultimate sanction on this site and be 'foed' - by him who must not be challenged - (actually forget challenged - him who you not be expected to be consistent 'cos he is 'board legend')

It has happened to me - and I am taken back to when my mate Peter said "...you are not my best friend anymore.." - I was only 3 but it hurt like hell

[BlueSince72]

I am convinced he's on a short term contract with a MASSIVE cash incentive....I bloody hope so!! I will not be able to stand much more of the crap that is currently being served up.....okay we're winning but ffs it's dreadful to watch!!

Been seriously considering my ST renewal after 36 years as the football is purely SHITE!!

Please let the Sheikh give us someone who plays good ATTRACTIVE football.....not a midfield lining up two yards in front of the defense, and under strict instructions not to attack under any circumstances.

[Ted Hughes]

I am convinced he's on a short term contract with a MASSIVE cash incentive....I bloody hope so!! I will not be able to stand much more of the crap that is currently being served up.....okay we're winning but ffs it's dreadful to watch!!

Been seriously considering my ST renewal after 36 years as the football is purely SHITE!!

Please let the Sheikh give us someone who plays good ATTRACTIVE football.....not a midfield lining up two yards in front of the defense, and under strict instructions not to attack under any circumstances.

I don't think that was particularly the case yesterday. Imo it was that two of our creative players (Ireland & Petrov) only played for 15 mins then ducked out of the game, Toure set up more attacks for Stoke than for us & Zabba stood & watched whilst the oppo scored a free header. It was more like the individual let downs that Hughes suffered from rather than just down to tactics imo.

Agree it was utter shite to watch though.