Over 200 million spent.

[the_georgian_genius]

Maybe we should revisit this debate in a few weeks when we have been further tested by Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs. The only other test we have had was Everton and we failed miserably there....as we did at Hull
I am happy to wait and see.
I would rather die trying than not try and still die.

United at home? That was a big test.

We will revisit it mate, just as long as you don't insinuate that by having this opinion i am a better supporter than anyone else (i still haven't had an explanation why you said that)

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Maybe we should revisit this debate in a few weeks when we have been further tested by Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs. The only other test we have had was Everton and we failed miserably there....as we did at Hull
I am happy to wait and see.
I would rather die trying than not try and still die.

U***d at home? That was a big test.

We will revisit it mate, just as long as you don't insinuate that by having this opinion i am a better supporter than anyone else (i still haven't had an explanation why you said that)

don't bother. Only lost games are tests you see. Wins against teams we regularily dropped points before are walk in the park. And that includes rags. Hull on the other hand, that was a MASSIVE test which we failed.

[john68]

Antti,
There are time Antti that you really do get on my nerves by acting the twat.
I know English isn't your 1st language but I also know that you have a good enough command of it not to have to twist what I have said.
You have done this before and I have told you about this.

Hans Christian Anderson was a Scandinavian...he made his own stories up too.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Antti,
There are time Antti that you really do get on my nerves by acting the twat.
I know English isn't your 1st language but I also know that you have a good enough command of it not to have to twist what I have said.
You have done this before and I have told you about this.

Hans Christian Anderson was a Scandinavian...he made his own stories up too.

Fair enough.
That said, I really do think that you out of all people should wait and see whether Mancini can get his message through to players and get the side playing the way he wants. You know as well as I do that if the owners aren't happy with what they see, Mancini will be out in summer anyway but also that he isn't going anywhere before that.

[Original Dub]

Maybe we should revisit this debate in a few weeks when we have been further tested by Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs. The only other test we have had was Everton and we failed miserably there....as we did at Hull
I am happy to wait and see.
I would rather die trying than not try and still die.

U***d at home? That was a big test.

We will revisit it mate, just as long as you don't insinuate that by having this opinion i am a better supporter than anyone else (i still haven't had an explanation why you said that)

No it was not a big test, it was part one of a big test. It was a home game and we haven't lost at home for nearly a fucking year! It was also a game that united knew they could lose narrowly and still be favourites, which is exactly what happened.

If it was the league, that individual game would have been a big test. We failed that test because we didn't make the final. That was the test and I still can't believe people are still holding that dear to there hearts.

No, as much as I want to believe we can hold our own against the decent teams in the league, the game against Liverpool is Mancini's third chance to prove it, because he failed against Everton and United (and Hull).

I really really hope we beat them, but confidence has to be instilled, not imagined.

[Ted Hughes]

Champions League qualification now then the pretty style of football will come and i am very confident Mancini will deliver that, just look at his Inter Milan side and it will show you that.

As I posted earlier; I did look at his Inter Milan side & when I saw them they looked similar to us now. When I saw them, they played with with 7 at the back & a lot of long balls to a big striker & were mind numbingly dull. They won the games when I saw them doing that in the Italian League & got absolutely fucking hammered & humilliated by some of the Pl teams when they tried it against them.


I'll bow to knowledge of others that there were plenty of games when they played great football but Mancini has got previous for this kind of stuff. I hope we see the other side of his character very very soon, Sunday in fact.

[john68]

Antti,
There are time Antti that you really do get on my nerves by acting the twat.
I know English isn't your 1st language but I also know that you have a good enough command of it not to have to twist what I have said.
You have done this before and I have told you about this.

Hans Christian Anderson was a Scandinavian...he made his own stories up too.

Fair enough.
That said, I really do think that you out of all people should wait and see whether Mancini can get his message through to players and get the side playing the way he wants. You know as well as I do that if the owners aren't happy with what they see, Mancini will be out in summer anyway but also that he isn't going anywhere before that.

Antii,
My apologies for being so tetchy mate. The point I made was valid but I should have made it more calmly. I had just finished a long shift and my bed was calling before i got caught up in this....Kunniotus..(is?) not sure of the spelling now but you'll understand.

I don't want Mancini sacked (certainly not yet anyhow) and I like all on here want City success. There is no agenda other than that.
Comparison with Hughes is irrelevent. Hughes has gone.
Mancini was brought in to improve our assault at the top and make the top 4. I see no significant improvement and the "Grinding out results" point is nonsense.
We have been lucky to play some of our easiest fixture recently. A decent show should have consolidated our position, challenged the top 3 and created a gap between us and the chasing pack. That hasn't happened and we are still in a similar position to when Mancini arrived.
Added to that is the fact that we are NOT grinding out results as many say. We have played some shit sides, dropped the very points Mancini was brought in to win and done so by playing badly.
If Mancini was brought in to imrove things..he has not done so...in fact we seem to have gone backwards in many respects.

I am not trying to score political or debating points, I am merely looking at the reality of our present situation.

[King Kev]

Maybe we should revisit this debate in a few weeks when we have been further tested by Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs. The only other test we have had was Everton and we failed miserably there....as we did at Hull
I am happy to wait and see.
I would rather die trying than not try and still die.

We have already beaten 3 of the Sky 4 at home this season, I see no reason why we can't continue to beat the good teams. If we beat Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs in scrappy 1-0 victories will you be happy?

[Ted Hughes]

I'm certain we'll overlook shit footbal in those games if we win but I recon the only game it actually makes sense to play that way out of the 3 is Chelsea. Our advantage v Spurs & Liverpool is our attack & we are at home. Surrender that & DeFoe or Gerrard will nick a goal in a tight game & we'll lose.

[john68]

Maybe we should revisit this debate in a few weeks when we have been further tested by Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs. The only other test we have had was Everton and we failed miserably there....as we did at Hull
I am happy to wait and see.
I would rather die trying than not try and still die.

We have already beaten 3 of the Sky 4 at home this season, I see no reason why we can't continue to beat the good teams. If we beat Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs in scrappy 1-0 victories will you be happy?

Being a realist...I understand that it is sometimes necessary to win ugly and I have no problem with that. The ability to win ugly where necessary and grind out results is an integral part of the weaponry of any successful side. Playing poorly is not a habit I would encourage but playing poorly and winning is a good habit when needed.

That said, the problem arises when playing poorly becomes a habit and a pattern is set. When that is the only weapon in a teams armoury, it will not be successful in the longer term.

When we beat Chelsea and Arsenal, we did so by playing well and playing near our potential.
The previous problem was that we failed to reach that potential often enough.
Under Mancini, we have never got anywhere near the potential thast gave us those wins against those top sides and that is worrying.

[mr_nool]

Maybe we should revisit this debate in a few weeks when we have been further tested by Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs. The only other test we have had was Everton and we failed miserably there....as we did at Hull
I am happy to wait and see.
I would rather die trying than not try and still die.

We have already beaten 3 of the Sky 4 at home this season, I see no reason why we can't continue to beat the good teams. If we beat Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs in scrappy 1-0 victories will you be happy?

Being a realist...I understand that it is sometimes necessary to win ugly and I have no problem with that. The ability to win ugly where necessary and grind out results is an integral part of the weaponry of any successful side. Playing poorly is not a habit I would encourage but playing poorly and winning is a good habit when needed.

That said, the problem arises when playing poorly becomes a habit and a pattern is set. When that is the only weapon in a teams armoury, it will not be successful in the longer term.

When we beat Chelsea and Arsenal, we did so by playing well and playing near our potential.
The previous problem was that we failed to reach that potential often enough.
Under Mancini, we have never got anywhere near the potential thast gave us those wins against those top sides and that is worrying.

John, before the Chelsea win (if you disregard the cup win against Arsenal's youth team) we had actually been playing poorly for seven games in a row against "lesser" opponents. Let's give Roberto the chance to up his game against a "top four team" (yes, I know we've played the scum twice under Mancini, but during his early days and in a two leg cup tie).

[john68]

There is no way i would not support Mancini's success is City's success and that makes me happy.
I have

[mr_nool]

There is no way i would not support Mancini's success is City's success and that makes me happy.
I have

sorry mate, I wasn't aiming at having a go at you. I realise that i did twice, but I didn't really mean to. I more got caught up with details.

[john68]

I never considered you were mate...no probs Pal.

[gillie]

I never considered you were mate...no probs Pal.

And i'm not dead!.

[mr_nool]

I never considered you were mate...no probs Pal.

And i'm not dead!.

that's only because you threw in the towel. Doomy had you in a strangle-hold.

[KinkyKinkladze]

Wasn't sure where to put this, but thought a thread about spending money on new players was as good as any.

Young Adam Johnson. Wearing a United shirt.



I can almost hear certain people getting ready to explode.

[Redna]

Can't remember the lot ever having stripes but who's the fella . Emelyn Hughes that is?
CTID!!

[failsworthblue]

We have only spent half of what Chelski spent and in half the time .

I think it will probably take another £200 mill and a bit more time before we can win the Prem , a bit of Jose would not go a miss as well.

[gillie]

We have only spent half of what Chelski spent and in half the time .

I think it will probably take another £200 mill and a bit more time before we can win the Prem , a bit of Jose would not go a miss as well.

But as Chelski spent they improved and won trophies are we?.I think we are regressing and if we dont make top4 i dont think the Sheikh will get his money out as readily in the Summer.