The officially official Sunderland v City Thread.

[dazby]

Just about every one of our saved shots could have done with one more pass. Great finish by Jinky, and I liked the badge grab after he scored against his boyhood club.

For Gordon, you know it's going to be your day when a shot is going for goal and then gets deflected straight into your breadbasket. Credit to him.

RSC? I'd like to see him have a run of games before writing him off. He's had no continuity with his City career. 5 games to show us what he can do. He's got the frame for it.

Vieira looked better than I expected today. Still a bit rusty but some nice through balls have stuck in my head.

[Bianchi on Ice]

RSC was winning stuff in the air up front. He's the only one at the club who will do that. He's a yard short of pace and his overall technique isnt 17mill but he wasnt our worst player today. We have to start games with more purpose and earn the right to play. Keep saying it and it might happen.

[The Original Special One]

Initial defensive set up has cost us that. Don't know why SWP wasn't taken off earlier either.

another Micah Richards article in the press this week wondering why Capello won't pick him
Somebody should send him the DVD

Vieira, to be fair, looked quite decent when he came on: perhaps we could consider starting with the lineup that finished the game.

But whither Ireland now?

vieira doesn't have the legs to play the entire 90 mins though

yea, he'd never last the pace but that kind of set-up was a good one: part of RSC's awfulness will have to be put down to ring rustiness, but Adebayor will be back in a couple of games

[ayrshireblue]

7 out of 8 were straight at him, his positioning was good but with the exception of the Tevez chance not top drawer saves. You also seem to have made the same mistake as most of our players today, a striker's job is to get it on target AND beat the keeper.

The biggest part of good keeping is positioning as it means you don't have to make desperate diving saves. Today Gordon got the positioning perfect all day, however the likes of SWP's chance should have been put across goal and gave Gordon better chances of making the save.

[Beeks]

RSC was winning stuff in the air up front. He's the only one at the club who will do that. He's a yard short of pace and his overall technique isnt 17mill but he wasnt our worst player today.

Agreed...but as you know...this forum always needs a scapegoat

[Douglas Higginbottom]

I thought RSC's overall game was good today but he did a few stand out things badly. One piece of garbage control and that miss when he really should have done better is what gets remembered but the good play wasnt brilliant enough.

[CitizenYank]

Three words to today: Lucky, Lucky & Lucky!!

[carl_feedthegoat]

Just about every one of our saved shots could have done with one more pass. Great finish by Jinky, and I liked the badge grab after he scored against his boyhood club.

For Gordon, you know it's going to be your day when a shot is going for goal and then gets deflected straight into your breadbasket. Credit to him.

RSC? I'd like to see him have a run of games before writing him off. He's had no continuity with his City career. 5 games to show us what he can do. He's got the frame for it.

Vieira looked better than I expected today. Still a bit rusty but some nice through balls have stuck in my head.

YOU WOULD GIVE RSC A RUN IN THE TEAM?
ANOTHER NUTTER.

[Beefymcfc]

Just about every one of our saved shots could have done with one more pass. Great finish by Jinky, and I liked the badge grab after he scored against his boyhood club.

For Gordon, you know it's going to be your day when a shot is going for goal and then gets deflected straight into your breadbasket. Credit to him.

RSC? I'd like to see him have a run of games before writing him off. He's had no continuity with his City career. 5 games to show us what he can do. He's got the frame for it.

Vieira looked better than I expected today. Still a bit rusty but some nice through balls have stuck in my head.

Mmmmm, good analysis mate, you can have my 20 votes anytime.

[Beefymcfc]

Are the negative views regarding the second half due to us not being level with Spurs again?

Crap first half yes, but the second half was very good. Wish we could just scrap the first half as this seems to be a season trait.

[dazby]

Just about every one of our saved shots could have done with one more pass. Great finish by Jinky, and I liked the badge grab after he scored against his boyhood club.

For Gordon, you know it's going to be your day when a shot is going for goal and then gets deflected straight into your breadbasket. Credit to him.

RSC? I'd like to see him have a run of games before writing him off. He's had no continuity with his City career. 5 games to show us what he can do. He's got the frame for it.

Vieira looked better than I expected today. Still a bit rusty but some nice through balls have stuck in my head.

YOU WOULD GIVE RSC A RUN IN THE TEAM?
ANOTHER NUTTER.

All you saw was his fuck ups Carl, and they were there for all to see. What you didn't see was his aerial play, his ability to bring the ball to the ground, SOME good movement to break up the defence and general link up work.

To play at your best you need a run of games. You cannot say he has had that.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Just about every one of our saved shots could have done with one more pass. Great finish by Jinky, and I liked the badge grab after he scored against his boyhood club.

For Gordon, you know it's going to be your day when a shot is going for goal and then gets deflected straight into your breadbasket. Credit to him.

RSC? I'd like to see him have a run of games before writing him off. He's had no continuity with his City career. 5 games to show us what he can do. He's got the frame for it.

Vieira looked better than I expected today. Still a bit rusty but some nice through balls have stuck in my head.

YOU WOULD GIVE RSC A RUN IN THE TEAM?
ANOTHER NUTTER.

All you saw was his fuck ups Carl, and they were there for all to see. What you didn't see was his aerial play, his ability to bring the ball to the ground, SOME good movement to break up the defence and general link up work.

To play at your best you need a run of games. You cannot say he has had that.

HIS MISS WAS SHOCKING MATE AND WAS UNDEFENDABLE..HE,S PAID TO PUT THOSE AWAY AND YOU JUST CANNOT MISS THOSE KIND OF CHANCES IF YOU WANT TO BREAK INTO THE TOP 4.
I DIDNT THINK HE HELD THE BALL UP WELL TODAY AT ALL AND WHEN HE DID HE DIDNT USE IT WISELY.
MY OPINION OF COURSE..VERY FRUSTRATING.

I WOULD NOT GIVE HIM A RUN IN TEH TEAM BASED ON TODAYS PERFORMANCE..WE JUST CANNOT AFFORD TO FUCK UP ANYMORE.
NOW ANDY J DOES DESERVE A RUN IN THE SIDE...TERRIFIC PLAYER AND FAR FAR MORE SKILFULL AND INVENTIVE THAN SWP WHO IS PROVING MORE AND MORE ONE DIMENSIONAL EVERY WEEK.

[peg-6]

We are just unlucky. That's all. We had a poor 1st half, but came strong in the 2nd. The way we played in the 2nd half is what we need. Our players tried to turn thing around. That's very very positive. This draw is a gain for me.

[CitizenYank]

RSC will never feature in a Man City kit after his performance today. The look on Mancini's face after that abortion
of a kick said it all.

[irblinx]

7 out of 8 were straight at him, his positioning was good but with the exception of the Tevez chance not top drawer saves. You also seem to have made the same mistake as most of our players today, a striker's job is to get it on target AND beat the keeper.

The biggest part of good keeping is positioning as it means you don't have to make desperate diving saves. Today Gordon got the positioning perfect all day, however the likes of SWP's chance should have been put across goal and gave Gordon better chances of making the save.

I didn't say he played badly just that our finishing made him look good (and from the other thread I'm not the only one), even the Bellamy shot through the crowd deflected TOWARDS him, and I personally think that the best Sunderland player was Malbranque.

We were much improved in the 2nd half but totally without finesse or composure in front of goal, we are definitely in need of a real world class striker (Aguerro please).

[zuricity]

RSC will never feature in a Man City kit after his performance today. The look on Mancini's face after that abortion
of a kick said it all.

I agree with your observation entirely. Just what RSC thought he was doing after Johnson made so much time for him beggars belief. Mancini was looking certainly pissed off with RSC for that.