french_tony wrote:I just dont understand his mentality at all. The players he has at his disposal and he would rather play such negative football. I just don't know what he thinks it will achieve. A midfield 3 of NDj, Baz and Zab will not create us chances.
Lets hope after today he's learnt his lesson...although I am not holding my breath.
s1ty m wrote:If he can't see it himself, there's something wrong. When we attack, as in the 2nd half, we look fantastic; the 2nd half display reminded me of the 'top' sides, just constantly attacking, bringing a sense of dread to opposing fans and a feeling of 'the goal is inevitable'.
So why can't we just decide to atack from the off?
And I am not getting carried away, the 1st half was a horrible display of pearcian proportions.
King Kev wrote:We out-shoot the opposition away from home yet people still claim we aren't positive enough!?
King Kev wrote:We out-shoot the opposition away from home yet people still claim we aren't positive enough!?
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:I don't think it's all about the players he picks but the mentality he sends them out with. Barry in midfield can play any game you ask him too.If he is asked to get forward a lot he will be it seems he is asked to sit in the middle with the other 2.The standard approach seems to be keep it tight and let's see if we can sneak a goal and not let one in and then think about it for the second half. That's asking for trouble and saying to the likes of Sunderland get a goal and defend for your lives.
Against Chelsea he chose AJ wide right and he was poor so SWP came on and livened things up. Today it was the other way around.Tevez today had a tough old time and not a very good game but in the first half he was totally isolated and the SLD defenders just came through him. When RSC came on it was much better as even a blind man could see.
The next game is Fulham and we know they are an organised unit .If we approach that game the same way it will be boring as hell and probably 1 goal in it. He
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:I don't think it's all about the players he picks but the mentality he sends them out with. Barry in midfield can play any game you ask him too.If he is asked to get forward a lot he will be it seems he is asked to sit in the middle with the other 2.The standard approach seems to be keep it tight and let's see if we can sneak a goal and not let one in and then think about it for the second half. That's asking for trouble and saying to the likes of Sunderland get a goal and defend for your lives.
Against Chelsea he chose AJ wide right and he was poor so SWP came on and livened things up. Today it was the other way around.Tevez today had a tough old time and not a very good game but in the first half he was totally isolated and the SLD defenders just came through him. When RSC came on it was much better as even a blind man could see.
The next game is Fulham and we know they are an organised unit .If we approach that game the same way it will be boring as hell and probably 1 goal in it. He
ARE YOU SERIOUSLY MAD?
RSC WAS A WASTE OF SPACE IN ALL THE TIME HE WAS ON THE PITCH AND THATS A FACT.
WASTEFULL AND CLUMSY....I HOPE I DONT SEE HIM IN A BLUE SHIRT EVER AGAIN.
bluej wrote:carl_feedthegoat wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:I don't think it's all about the players he picks but the mentality he sends them out with. Barry in midfield can play any game you ask him too.If he is asked to get forward a lot he will be it seems he is asked to sit in the middle with the other 2.The standard approach seems to be keep it tight and let's see if we can sneak a goal and not let one in and then think about it for the second half. That's asking for trouble and saying to the likes of Sunderland get a goal and defend for your lives.
Against Chelsea he chose AJ wide right and he was poor so SWP came on and livened things up. Today it was the other way around.Tevez today had a tough old time and not a very good game but in the first half he was totally isolated and the SLD defenders just came through him. When RSC came on it was much better as even a blind man could see.
The next game is Fulham and we know they are an organised unit .If we approach that game the same way it will be boring as hell and probably 1 goal in it. He
ARE YOU SERIOUSLY MAD?
RSC WAS A WASTE OF SPACE IN ALL THE TIME HE WAS ON THE PITCH AND THATS A FACT.
WASTEFULL AND CLUMSY....I HOPE I DONT SEE HIM IN A BLUE SHIRT EVER AGAIN.
Are you sure mate - before he came on we were just giving Sunderland possession by playing the long ball, at least when he came on we retained possession.
carl_feedthegoat wrote:bluej wrote:carl_feedthegoat wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:I don't think it's all about the players he picks but the mentality he sends them out with. Barry in midfield can play any game you ask him too.If he is asked to get forward a lot he will be it seems he is asked to sit in the middle with the other 2.The standard approach seems to be keep it tight and let's see if we can sneak a goal and not let one in and then think about it for the second half. That's asking for trouble and saying to the likes of Sunderland get a goal and defend for your lives.
Against Chelsea he chose AJ wide right and he was poor so SWP came on and livened things up. Today it was the other way around.Tevez today had a tough old time and not a very good game but in the first half he was totally isolated and the SLD defenders just came through him. When RSC came on it was much better as even a blind man could see.
The next game is Fulham and we know they are an organised unit .If we approach that game the same way it will be boring as hell and probably 1 goal in it. He
ARE YOU SERIOUSLY MAD?
RSC WAS A WASTE OF SPACE IN ALL THE TIME HE WAS ON THE PITCH AND THATS A FACT.
WASTEFULL AND CLUMSY....I HOPE I DONT SEE HIM IN A BLUE SHIRT EVER AGAIN.
Are you sure mate - before he came on we were just giving Sunderland possession by playing the long ball, at least when he came on we retained possession.
WE WERE PLAYING THE WORSE FOOTBALL IVE EVER SEEN PRIOR SO IT WASNT HARD TO IMPROVE ON WAS IT?
the_georgian_genius wrote:carl_feedthegoat wrote:bluej wrote:carl_feedthegoat wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:I don't think it's all about the players he picks but the mentality he sends them out with. Barry in midfield can play any game you ask him too.If he is asked to get forward a lot he will be it seems he is asked to sit in the middle with the other 2.The standard approach seems to be keep it tight and let's see if we can sneak a goal and not let one in and then think about it for the second half. That's asking for trouble and saying to the likes of Sunderland get a goal and defend for your lives.
Against Chelsea he chose AJ wide right and he was poor so SWP came on and livened things up. Today it was the other way around.Tevez today had a tough old time and not a very good game but in the first half he was totally isolated and the SLD defenders just came through him. When RSC came on it was much better as even a blind man could see.
The next game is Fulham and we know they are an organised unit .If we approach that game the same way it will be boring as hell and probably 1 goal in it. He
ARE YOU SERIOUSLY MAD?
RSC WAS A WASTE OF SPACE IN ALL THE TIME HE WAS ON THE PITCH AND THATS A FACT.
WASTEFULL AND CLUMSY....I HOPE I DONT SEE HIM IN A BLUE SHIRT EVER AGAIN.
Are you sure mate - before he came on we were just giving Sunderland possession by playing the long ball, at least when he came on we retained possession.
WE WERE PLAYING THE WORSE FOOTBALL IVE EVER SEEN PRIOR SO IT WASNT HARD TO IMPROVE ON WAS IT?
This is why i try to avoid this place after every game we fail to win 3-0.
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:I don't think it's all about the players he picks but the mentality he sends them out with. Barry in midfield can play any game you ask him too.If he is asked to get forward a lot he will be it seems he is asked to sit in the middle with the other 2.The standard approach seems to be keep it tight and let's see if we can sneak a goal and not let one in and then think about it for the second half. That's asking for trouble and saying to the likes of Sunderland get a goal and defend for your lives.
Against Chelsea he chose AJ wide right and he was poor so SWP came on and livened things up. Today it was the other way around.Tevez today had a tough old time and not a very good game but in the first half he was totally isolated and the SLD defenders just came through him. When RSC came on it was much better as even a blind man could see.
The next game is Fulham and we know they are an organised unit .If we approach that game the same way it will be boring as hell and probably 1 goal in it. He
ARE YOU SERIOUSLY MAD?
RSC WAS A WASTE OF SPACE IN ALL THE TIME HE WAS ON THE PITCH AND THATS A FACT.
WASTEFULL AND CLUMSY....I HOPE I DONT SEE HIM IN A BLUE SHIRT EVER AGAIN.
Rae4685 wrote:carl_feedthegoat wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:I don't think it's all about the players he picks but the mentality he sends them out with. Barry in midfield can play any game you ask him too.If he is asked to get forward a lot he will be it seems he is asked to sit in the middle with the other 2.The standard approach seems to be keep it tight and let's see if we can sneak a goal and not let one in and then think about it for the second half. That's asking for trouble and saying to the likes of Sunderland get a goal and defend for your lives.
Against Chelsea he chose AJ wide right and he was poor so SWP came on and livened things up. Today it was the other way around.Tevez today had a tough old time and not a very good game but in the first half he was totally isolated and the SLD defenders just came through him. When RSC came on it was much better as even a blind man could see.
The next game is Fulham and we know they are an organised unit .If we approach that game the same way it will be boring as hell and probably 1 goal in it. He
ARE YOU SERIOUSLY MAD?
RSC WAS A WASTE OF SPACE IN ALL THE TIME HE WAS ON THE PITCH AND THATS A FACT.
WASTEFULL AND CLUMSY....I HOPE I DONT SEE HIM IN A BLUE SHIRT EVER AGAIN.
Dude you dont half talk some crap
Rae4685 wrote:carl_feedthegoat wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:I don't think it's all about the players he picks but the mentality he sends them out with. Barry in midfield can play any game you ask him too.If he is asked to get forward a lot he will be it seems he is asked to sit in the middle with the other 2.The standard approach seems to be keep it tight and let's see if we can sneak a goal and not let one in and then think about it for the second half. That's asking for trouble and saying to the likes of Sunderland get a goal and defend for your lives.
Against Chelsea he chose AJ wide right and he was poor so SWP came on and livened things up. Today it was the other way around.Tevez today had a tough old time and not a very good game but in the first half he was totally isolated and the SLD defenders just came through him. When RSC came on it was much better as even a blind man could see.
The next game is Fulham and we know they are an organised unit .If we approach that game the same way it will be boring as hell and probably 1 goal in it. He
ARE YOU SERIOUSLY MAD?
RSC WAS A WASTE OF SPACE IN ALL THE TIME HE WAS ON THE PITCH AND THATS A FACT.
WASTEFULL AND CLUMSY....I HOPE I DONT SEE HIM IN A BLUE SHIRT EVER AGAIN.
Dude you dont half talk some crap
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:I don't think it's all about the players he picks but the mentality he sends them out with. Barry in midfield can play any game you ask him too.If he is asked to get forward a lot he will be it seems he is asked to sit in the middle with the other 2.The standard approach seems to be keep it tight and let's see if we can sneak a goal and not let one in and then think about it for the second half. That's asking for trouble and saying to the likes of Sunderland get a goal and defend for your lives.
Against Chelsea he chose AJ wide right and he was poor so SWP came on and livened things up. Today it was the other way around.Tevez today had a tough old time and not a very good game but in the first half he was totally isolated and the SLD defenders just came through him. When RSC came on it was much better as even a blind man could see.
The next game is Fulham and we know they are an organised unit .If we approach that game the same way it will be boring as hell and probably 1 goal in it. He
ARE YOU SERIOUSLY MAD?
RSC WAS A WASTE OF SPACE IN ALL THE TIME HE WAS ON THE PITCH AND THATS A FACT.
WASTEFULL AND CLUMSY....I HOPE I DONT SEE HIM IN A BLUE SHIRT EVER AGAIN.
Ted Hughes wrote:Thought RSC did a great job as a target man & the chest flick he did to create one chance was the highlight of the game for me apart from the goal. He was guilty of a bad finish when he should have done a lot better though, as were Tevez & Bellamy. I suppose if everyone crucifies him for it & lets them off it'll help the team though.
Mancini's got a catch 22 in that Hughes was sacked mainly down to individuals making mistakes & he knows that our defenders are likely to make plenty of those mistakes again if he doesn't use the midfield to protect them. What's actually happening though is they're still making them; not quite as many but still enough to cost us. Imo we still need several goals to win a game so we may as well just attack & see where it takes us.
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