tommorow we have to have

[CITYSTEVEDON]

balls,and make up on spurs. they went to stoke and showed some balls and we will have to at fulham, a point is not enough we need to win the game, and then we will be back on track, then we can get 3pts against the everton and be ok

[BlueMoonAwoken]

agree with you, suprising spurs managed to beat stoke away.

The thing that worries me for the run in is that we dont have many players in our first 11 that have experience dealing with pressure at the top level.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Mancini has said we need 3 points from this one so we will go out from the start with the right attitude. Won't we?

[Blue Toy]

agree with you, suprising spurs managed to beat stoke away.

The thing that worries me for the run in is that we dont have many players in our first 11 that have experience dealing with pressure at the top level.

I don't see why it's surprising that spurs managed to win today.

What's surprising is that we couldn't do it in what was 3 pathetic attempts.

[Mark (Blue Army)]

balls,and make up on spurs. they went to stoke and showed some balls and we will have to at fulham, a point is not enough we need to win the game, and then we will be back on track, then we can get 3pts against the everton and be ok

As i said in another thread we need 3points Fulham are a decent team and with there massive win on Thursday will deffo be on a high so were gonna have to be at are best from the off, i don't want to see any of this hit it long shit get it on the floor and pass it around. Is Ade back from his ban tomorrow?

[Martinez]

Tottenham were handed their win today from the referee, no way was that second whitehead tackle a yellow. Fair play to Stoke for battling back to a draw, they just couldnt hold on

[Beefymcfc]

I can actually see us going all out to get the 3 points tomorrow. Although Fulham are on a high, they did actually win that match against 10 men, then 9. The energy they will have exerted in firswt winning the game, then the party atmosphere afterwards, will take its toll and I fully expect us to completely boss the game from around 60 minutes onwards. Hopefully we are a couple up by then.

[Bojinov's left foot]

Adebayor not back tomorrow, think it is match 3 of a 4 match ban.

Need to win tomorrow to make sure we do not give Spurs an advantage. Win at Fulham and beat Everton and the pressure will truly be back on Spurs, with Villa and Liverpool slipping away.

[Im_Spartacus]

I can actually see us going all out to get the 3 points tomorrow. Although Fulham are on a high, they did actually win that match against 10 men, then 9. The energy they will have exerted in firswt winning the game, then the party atmosphere afterwards, will take its toll and I fully expect us to completely boss the game from around 60 minutes onwards. Hopefully we are a couple up by then.

I know you have the caveat that hopefully we will be a couple up by then, but if they know they might fade, and we are shit in the first half anyway, there is an argument to say that their tactic will be to try and blow us away in the first half?

If we had one, just one performance which we could use as a yardstick for the sort of performance we need tomorrow, it would remove my doubts, but we have been total and utter gash in the opening half of every away game we have played under Mancini.

[CITYSTEVEDON]

we need to get at fulham from the off, we need to get into them and work the ball around, everyone of our players need to do there job from the off, no 1st half shit then 2nd half good, start as we need to do to get 3pts

[Im_Spartacus]

we need to get at fulham from the off, we need to get into them and work the ball around, everyone of our players need to do there job from the off, no 1st half shit then 2nd half good, start as we need to do to get 3pts

You could have said that before every single game of Mancini's tenure, we know what we would like to see, but it just doesnt happen so there is no reason to suspect tomorrow will be any different. Based on the evidence, I have to say that I just can't see that happening tomorrow. IF (a big if) we win, we will do it the hard way

[patrickblue]

agree with you, suprising spurs managed to beat stoke away.

The thing that worries me for the run in is that we dont have many players in our first 11 that have experience dealing with pressure at the top level.

I don't see why it's surprising that spurs managed to win today.

What's surprising is that we couldn't do it in what was 3 pathetic attempts.

Spuds lost their home game against Stoke this season, so theyr'e obviously not that straightforward to beat.

[Mark Garrett]

If we win tmo then happy days, but a point would be a decent result.

After tmo we have 9 games left, 6 of which are at home so we'd still be in a good position despite Tottenham winning today.

[gillie]

It's not just tomorrow though is it we have 10 games left and everyone has to be balls out football we have to show we want that 4th place and we have to earn it.Play to our best and we will piss the 4th place but play our first halves like we have recently and we can forget it imo as the better teams will be out of sight by the time we wake up.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

If we win tmo then happy days, but a point would be a decent result.

After tmo we have 9 games left, 6 of which are at home so we'd still be in a good position despite Tottenham winning today.

Normally a point wouldn't be bad but in the circumstances with the games we finish the season off with I think a win is very important tomorrow.

If we do draw that would be 6 draws in the last 7 games!! Seems familiar :) One was in the cup and we went on to lose it

[Beefymcfc]

I can actually see us going all out to get the 3 points tomorrow. Although Fulham are on a high, they did actually win that match against 10 men, then 9. The energy they will have exerted in firswt winning the game, then the party atmosphere afterwards, will take its toll and I fully expect us to completely boss the game from around 60 minutes onwards. Hopefully we are a couple up by then.

I know you have the caveat that hopefully we will be a couple up by then, but if they know they might fade, and we are shit in the first half anyway, there is an argument to say that their tactic will be to try and blow us away in the first half?

If we had one, just one performance which we could use as a yardstick for the sort of performance we need tomorrow, it would remove my doubts, but we have been total and utter gash in the opening half of every away game we have played under Mancini.

There is also the caveat of 'I can actually see us going all out to get the 3 points tomorrow', and that's from the off. Mancio has acknowledged, as we all know, that their is something wrong with the first half displays and will have been trying to rectify it, whether a mind set or general set-up issue. Every team we play seems to get at us in the first half so I'd suggest that this has become a tactic, however, we have shown all season that we cannot be under-estimated and more or less come back with a vengance. The first half against Sunderland I'll put down to clearing out the pipes, but now I am expecting fireworks from all involved, afterall, Mancio has stated himself that he wants that Champions League spot.

[CITYSTEVEDON]

we need to get at fulham from the off, we need to get into them and work the ball around, everyone of our players need to do there job from the off, no 1st half shit then 2nd half good, start as we need to do to get 3pts

You could have said that before every single game of Mancini's tenure, we know what we would like to see, but it just doesnt happen so there is no reason to suspect tomorrow will be any different. Based on the evidence, I have to say that I just can't see that happening tomorrow. IF (a big if) we win, we will do it the hard way

yes you could of said it every game, but we must do it 2morra, we do need the 3pts now as spurs got theres

[Im_Spartacus]

I can actually see us going all out to get the 3 points tomorrow. Although Fulham are on a high, they did actually win that match against 10 men, then 9. The energy they will have exerted in firswt winning the game, then the party atmosphere afterwards, will take its toll and I fully expect us to completely boss the game from around 60 minutes onwards. Hopefully we are a couple up by then.

I know you have the caveat that hopefully we will be a couple up by then, but if they know they might fade, and we are shit in the first half anyway, there is an argument to say that their tactic will be to try and blow us away in the first half?

If we had one, just one performance which we could use as a yardstick for the sort of performance we need tomorrow, it would remove my doubts, but we have been total and utter gash in the opening half of every away game we have played under Mancini.

There is also the caveat of 'I can actually see us going all out to get the 3 points tomorrow', and that's from the off. Mancio has acknowledged, as we all know, that their is something wrong with the first half displays and will have been trying to rectify it, whether a mind set or general set-up issue. Every team we play seems to get at us in the first half so I'd suggest that this has become a tactic, however, we have shown all season that we cannot be under-estimated and more or less come back with a vengance. The first half against Sunderland I'll put down to clearing out the pipes, but now I am expecting fireworks from all involved, afterall, Mancio has stated himself that he wants that Champions League spot.

Winning football games is his job, you make it sound like winning our other away games were not important.

Has he not been trying to solve this very problem from the minute he got here, he and the team have failed dismally to grasp the nettle based on not just the results away from home, but in particular the performances which have generally been poor ALL season, but particularly lame under Mancini. So he was pissed off last week, do you not think he was pissed off against Hull, Everton, Stoke etc...........were these games also not important - had we not fucked those up, he wouldnt be under the pressure he is now.

I'm fed up to the back teeth of hearing players coming out telling us how important this game or that game is over recent months, only for them to turn in an absolute shitter of a performance. If hot air won us points we would be top of the league.

This game is no more or less important that Sunderland last week, and the first half was one of the worst I have ever seen, similarly Chelsea - both of which were preceeded with statements by the players about what an important game it is. We stole points from those two games despite turning up with no idea how to win the game. Maybe our luck is changing after the shambles of playing shit and losing at Hull, Stoke, Everton etc, we might be starting to play shit and win/draw which can't be a bad thing.

After our last few first half efforts, I would just be happy if we can pass to our own players in the first half tomorrow, that would be a start and would help us to not put ourselves under pressure. If we build from that very very basic element of football, we have a fighting chance.

[BobKowalski]

Tomorrow we have to win. Don't care how we win but win we must. I want ruthless professionalism. I don't care if we nick an early goal and park the bus or bury them with goals in a Barca like performance (but not like the 1st half against Valencia when Barca didn't turn up - must be catching).

[Beefymcfc]

I can actually see us going all out to get the 3 points tomorrow. Although Fulham are on a high, they did actually win that match against 10 men, then 9. The energy they will have exerted in firswt winning the game, then the party atmosphere afterwards, will take its toll and I fully expect us to completely boss the game from around 60 minutes onwards. Hopefully we are a couple up by then.

I know you have the caveat that hopefully we will be a couple up by then, but if they know they might fade, and we are shit in the first half anyway, there is an argument to say that their tactic will be to try and blow us away in the first half?

If we had one, just one performance which we could use as a yardstick for the sort of performance we need tomorrow, it would remove my doubts, but we have been total and utter gash in the opening half of every away game we have played under Mancini.

There is also the caveat of 'I can actually see us going all out to get the 3 points tomorrow', and that's from the off. Mancio has acknowledged, as we all know, that their is something wrong with the first half displays and will have been trying to rectify it, whether a mind set or general set-up issue. Every team we play seems to get at us in the first half so I'd suggest that this has become a tactic, however, we have shown all season that we cannot be under-estimated and more or less come back with a vengance. The first half against Sunderland I'll put down to clearing out the pipes, but now I am expecting fireworks from all involved, afterall, Mancio has stated himself that he wants that Champions League spot.

Winning football games is his job, you make it sound like winning our other away games were not important.

Has he not been trying to solve this very problem from the minute he got here, he and the team have failed dismally to grasp the nettle based on not just the results away from home, but in particular the performances which have generally been poor ALL season, but particularly lame under Mancini. So he was pissed off last week, do you not think he was pissed off against Hull, Everton, Stoke etc...........were these games also not important - had we not fucked those up, he wouldnt be under the pressure he is now.

I'm fed up to the back teeth of hearing players coming out telling us how important this game or that game is over recent months, only for them to turn in an absolute shitter of a performance. If hot air won us points we would be top of the league.

This game is no more or less important that Sunderland last week, and the first half was one of the worst I have ever seen, similarly Chelsea - both of which were preceeded with statements by the players about what an important game it is. We stole points from those two games despite turning up with no idea how to win the game. Maybe our luck is changing after the shambles of playing shit and losing at Hull, Stoke, Everton etc, we might be starting to play shit and win/draw which can't be a bad thing.

After our last few first half efforts, I would just be happy if we can pass to our own players in the first half tomorrow, that would be a start and would help us to not put ourselves under pressure. If we build from that very very basic element of football, we have a fighting chance.

John, why so negative, you sound like the sky's falling in? We are in a position, with a freshly assembled team, with a new manager that has been in the seat for less than 3 months, where we have a realistic shot at fourth, and if not that, at least European football next season. We all know, as well as Mancio, exactly how the team have failed to produce, especially in the first 20 minutes or so of matches, bit as they say, it is a team issue that is being addressed.

NB. One thing that may cheer you up is that even though we seem to play crap in the first half, Mancio is actually averaging 2.6 points at home (only dropping points to Liverpool as you've mentioned earlier) and 1.33 away, which if he carries on the same vein, will give us approximately 71 points. (For comparison Hughes averaged 2.25 at home and 1.22 away)