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Did you expect anything else??? the man really is clueless

I blame Irelands granny, bird , sister or whoever the fucl it was ;)

maybe because rsc was injured and Vieira and gaz arent fit enough for two games in 3 days? baffling but prob an honest explanaion to it. Shouldve brough on rsc for ireland thats what made no sense.

Santa Cruz is not fit and Garrido looked a weak link vs Fulham. SImple.
Had nothing to do with the team selection, and everything to do with our shit passing, touch, and lack of creativity.

When you have a system which worked so well at Fulham and in the second half at sunderland, you shouldnt abandon it like we did tonight at kick off. change the personel by all means if they physically cannot play, but dont revert back to what proven not to work against teams who are tried and trusted and well drilled.

I said it in the match thread, we lost because we made too many changes, both before and during the game.

The man is addicted to changes. Sometimes the right thing to do is nothing at all.

It's not as black and white though. Every game is different.
And first when we changed to 4-4-2 they passed the ball around in midfield with ease, just because of that extra man they had there. They had all the time a man available to pass to. That's why Mancini went for 3 central midfielders I believe.
Had we not, once again, fallen asleep in a set-piece situation I think we would have gone to score first and Mancini would have had it spot on. Now a mistake that had nothing to do with the formation may have lost us the game.

It's hard to fault the system though as Mancini did EVERYTHING that critics have been asking him to do. We started out with way too much energy, which led into us running out of steam. We switched to all conquering 4-4-2. Hell, we even had targetman there...not that he won single header.

Personally I thought tactics were fucking horrible today. But hey, all the wishes were granted.

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:It's hard to fault the system though as Mancini did EVERYTHING that critics have been asking him to do. We started out with way too much energy, which led into us running out of steam. We switched to all conquering 4-4-2. Hell, we even had targetman there...not that he won single header.

Personally I thought tactics were fucking horrible today. But hey, all the wishes were granted.

The damage was done before the much maligned RSC came on. The confidence had been sapped, the players playing some desperate stuff.

Our midfield gave em far too much room. They still had loads of time and space when we were playing 4-5-1. Judging by the two games this season Moyes has us well and truly sussed out.

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:It's hard to fault the system though as Mancini did EVERYTHING that critics have been asking him to do. We started out with way too much energy, which led into us running out of steam. We switched to all conquering 4-4-2. Hell, we even had targetman there...not that he won single header.

Personally I thought tactics were fucking horrible today. But hey, all the wishes were granted.

Its more than just a lineup, its the general slow play in our own half and kicking it back to Shay when we know we're running out of time.

If it was only about how you line the team up, I'd manage them and have them top four. But he is a coach and has sent the players out with strict instructions. Sure, they may underperform in the odd game, but negative play is something they are being told to do.

We where on an unbeaten run of games and Mancio turns into Ranieri ala tinkerman.Imho Mancini will be the reason if we dont make top 4.

Svensational wrote:

Mark ( Blue Army ) wrote:Did you expect anything else??? the man really is clueless

Well yeah, I expected him to keep the same line up?

And ok RSC picked up an injury at Fulham but he looked ok for the 30mins he played tonight.

V funny. shite as usual is what I saw. - not on his own though>

I think he keeps changing it cos he manages with fear of what the opposition can do rather than what we can do to them if we play our own game. I've seen enough of Mancini now to think that this is how he manages. He might achieve top 4 but a man who manages based on fear will never win us the league.

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:It's hard to fault the system though as Mancini did EVERYTHING that critics have been asking him to do. We started out with way too much energy, which led into us running out of steam. We switched to all conquering 4-4-2. Hell, we even had targetman there...not that he won single header.

Personally I thought tactics were fucking horrible today. But hey, all the wishes were granted.

The wishes were granted? What wishes were they as I guess the majority expected the same side as the Fulham game.

Bottom line was Everton played really well and never gave us a second where it mattered. Started out with too much energy is a new one and I don't buy it at all. I really struggled to see what the plan was tonight and although we put some pressure on at times I don;t think we looked like scoring.They doubled up on a danger men to snuff them out and we gave them too much time.

Played badly ,lost so onto the next game.

PS RSC was not injured

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:It's hard to fault the system though as Mancini did EVERYTHING that critics have been asking him to do. We started out with way too much energy, which led into us running out of steam. We switched to all conquering 4-4-2. Hell, we even had targetman there...not that he won single header.

Personally I thought tactics were fucking horrible today. But hey, all the wishes were granted.

Your just a Mancini licker and he cost us a Wembley appearance and has now lost our unbeaten home record by his baffling team selections.But at least you post when the chosen one fucks up unlike one other not to be named champion of him.

It's not fucking rocket science is it boys?

Santa Cruz came off with an injury on Fulham
Vieria will struggle to play two games on the trot (cue the standard reply of "why did we sign him then")
Piennar and the strength of Cahill against Garrido? Do me a favour.


But it's all so simple to the little football managers on here isn't it?

gillie wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:It's hard to fault the system though as Mancini did EVERYTHING that critics have been asking him to do. We started out with way too much energy, which led into us running out of steam. We switched to all conquering 4-4-2. Hell, we even had targetman there...not that he won single header.

Personally I thought tactics were fucking horrible today. But hey, all the wishes were granted.

Your just a Mancini licker and he cost us a Wembley appearance and has now lost our unbeaten home record by his baffling team selections.But at least you post when the chosen one fucks up unlike one other not to be named champion of him.

Which part of "PERSONALLY I THOUGHT TACTICS WERE FUCKING HORRIBLE" you don't understand? I DO think Mancini would be the one for us in long term but we were shite last night and that was Mancini trying too hard to be an Englishman.

I have no idea where people come with these we were negative last night comments. We weren't. We were overly positive. And I said this when we signed Santa Cruz and Hughes was banging on how this would give us different dimension, PLAYING LONG BALLS TO BOX FOR TARGETMAN AGAINST TEAMS LIKE EVERTON, STOKE AND FUCKING BOLTON IS GOING TO DO US NO GOOD. Hopefully he'll take that on board. Only way we are going to score against side like Everton is to keep the ball on the ground and pass our way through them.

One look at the line up and you just knew it was wrong. Wrong starting line up and wrong changes. Shite.

Even setting aside the principle of not changing a winning team, I thought very early on we were missing Santa Cruz and Vieira. Tevez was being bullied and NDJ has no forward thought process. Not sure about Garrido though :)