Original Dub wrote:
Just out of interest - are you very confident we'll secure fourth and if not, why not?
Original Dub wrote:Cheers mate, I was just curious. So you're not feeling too positive then?
You'd think that two homes games and a game against a relegation threatened side would be enough to get us 9 points. And you have faith in the players and the manager... are you sure its because you think its such a tough run in, or because you're used to getting let down?
Personally, I think we'll do it, but I'm apprehensive about how we set out for these games. There is no doubt in my mind that we have the players to turn the last FOUR teams over, but I certainly feel we can get 9 points and that will get us fourth IMO.
And I'm seen as one of the more negative folk!
brite blu sky wrote:Original Dub wrote:Cheers mate, I was just curious. So you're not feeling too positive then?
You'd think that two homes games and a game against a relegation threatened side would be enough to get us 9 points. And you have faith in the players and the manager... are you sure its because you think its such a tough run in, or because you're used to getting let down?
Personally, I think we'll do it, but I'm apprehensive about how we set out for these games. There is no doubt in my mind that we have the players to turn the last FOUR teams over, but I certainly feel we can get 9 points and that will get us fourth IMO.
And I'm seen as one of the more negative folk!
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Slim wrote:brite blu sky wrote:Original Dub wrote:Cheers mate, I was just curious. So you're not feeling too positive then?
You'd think that two homes games and a game against a relegation threatened side would be enough to get us 9 points. And you have faith in the players and the manager... are you sure its because you think its such a tough run in, or because you're used to getting let down?
Personally, I think we'll do it, but I'm apprehensive about how we set out for these games. There is no doubt in my mind that we have the players to turn the last FOUR teams over, but I certainly feel we can get 9 points and that will get us fourth IMO.
And I'm seen as one of the more negative folk!
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Winners look at what they can achieve, losers look at what they can throw away.
Be a winner.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Original Dub wrote:
Just out of interest - are you very confident we'll secure fourth and if not, why not?
I'm not and it's mostly down to super form of Tottenham, easy fixtures Villa have left and tough fixture list we have left. I reckon we'll finish 6th.
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Original Dub wrote:I don't remember that philosopy when we had a game or two in hand... actually, you were shouting people down when the games in hand were mentioned.
Maybe they were looking at what we could achieve... while YOU were looking at what we could throw away.
Oh the irony.
Slim wrote:Original Dub wrote:I don't remember that philosopy when we had a game or two in hand... actually, you were shouting people down when the games in hand were mentioned.
Maybe they were looking at what we could achieve... while YOU were looking at what we could throw away.
Oh the irony.
There is a difference between counting games as wins before you have played them and looking at what we could achieve.
Of course your comments that "we're in 4th if we win our game(s) in hand" stopped after Mancini came in, even though it was Mancini who was in charge vs Everton and we assume will be vs Tottenham.
Hopefully some of that got through, maybe some cause for introspection? Then again, maybe just another forum for you to throw out your passive-aggressive Mancini undermining. Your choice of course.
Original Dub wrote:Slim wrote:Original Dub wrote:I don't remember that philosopy when we had a game or two in hand... actually, you were shouting people down when the games in hand were mentioned.
Maybe they were looking at what we could achieve... while YOU were looking at what we could throw away.
Oh the irony.
There is a difference between counting games as wins before you have played them and looking at what we could achieve.
Of course your comments that "we're in 4th if we win our game(s) in hand" stopped after Mancini came in, even though it was Mancini who was in charge vs Everton and we assume will be vs Tottenham.
Hopefully some of that got through, maybe some cause for introspection? Then again, maybe just another forum for you to throw out your passive-aggressive Mancini undermining. Your choice of course.
"Passive aggressive, oooh leave him alone"... stop crying will you, I'm behind the man, I want him to succeed, I'm just apprehensive about how we set up for a draw against every top side we have met under him. It is top sides we are about to meet, so I'm hoping he has changed his philosophy so we can get fourth, which is all I'm "aggressive" about.
I'll say it yet again:
I don't care if its Hughes, Mancini, Sven or whoever, I only want fourth place because I want to see my team in the champions league. If I'm aprehensive about upcoming games (as you completely were about our games in hand that I mentioned above), then I have every right to voice it without having my support questioned, as you had when you showed the same aprehension oft times before.
Its not difficult to grasp. Really, it isn't.
Slim wrote:Original Dub wrote:Slim wrote:Original Dub wrote:I don't remember that philosopy when we had a game or two in hand... actually, you were shouting people down when the games in hand were mentioned.
Maybe they were looking at what we could achieve... while YOU were looking at what we could throw away.
Oh the irony.
There is a difference between counting games as wins before you have played them and looking at what we could achieve.
Of course your comments that "we're in 4th if we win our game(s) in hand" stopped after Mancini came in, even though it was Mancini who was in charge vs Everton and we assume will be vs Tottenham.
Hopefully some of that got through, maybe some cause for introspection? Then again, maybe just another forum for you to throw out your passive-aggressive Mancini undermining. Your choice of course.
"Passive aggressive, oooh leave him alone"... stop crying will you, I'm behind the man, I want him to succeed, I'm just apprehensive about how we set up for a draw against every top side we have met under him. It is top sides we are about to meet, so I'm hoping he has changed his philosophy so we can get fourth, which is all I'm "aggressive" about.
I'll say it yet again:
I don't care if its Hughes, Mancini, Sven or whoever, I only want fourth place because I want to see my team in the champions league. If I'm aprehensive about upcoming games (as you completely were about our games in hand that I mentioned above), then I have every right to voice it without having my support questioned, as you had when you showed the same aprehension oft times before.
Its not difficult to grasp. Really, it isn't.
Remind me, what was the result at Stamford Bridge?
brite blu sky wrote:on the face of it i think you have good point OD. as i mentioned at some point the games that you refer to were very close.. i would cite the idea that we were still getting better but still pretty nervous at the time of those games. But your point is very valid, we haven't seen convincing performances against the top sides in the sense you are talking about.. ie set up and intention of the team. Where we differ is that i feel we are learning and have less reason to be worried, but i would agree with you that we really need some clear evidence of that before being able to be totally confident.
well tomorrow is the next chance we have to try and show that. But if we do go and win, i for one will not be going overboard thinking it is in the bag, partly because Arsenal have a lot of problems.. a lot. imo they are there for the taking. Can City go for the jugular ?
Original Dub wrote:Strange question.... it was 4-2 to us mate.
Doesn't mean we didn't look like we set up purely to not let them score, as we have done against all the top sides. It worked that time, how? I don't know, but it hasn't worked any other time and you think I'm being negative purely because I'm fearful we'll do it again?
Remind me, what was the league result against Everton, Liverpool & U***d?
This is a cool game.
Slim wrote:Original Dub wrote:Strange question.... it was 4-2 to us mate.
Doesn't mean we didn't look like we set up purely to not let them score, as we have done against all the top sides. It worked that time, how? I don't know, but it hasn't worked any other time and you think I'm being negative purely because I'm fearful we'll do it again?
Remind me, what was the league result against Everton, Liverpool & U***d?
This is a cool game.
So we were set up to to draw against a team that hadn't lost at home in god knows how long, a team that not only hasn't lost a single home game this season but only got one draw and we scored 4, outplayed them and should have won 4-1 if it wasn't for that fucking ref giving away penalties like pennies.
I'd like to know why you choose top8 as your threshold and not top 6 considering that's who we have to play, or even top 10 if you wanted to separate the better teams in the league from the chaff. Wait, it's so you can avoid the fact we beat 9th and 10th, battered 9th in fact and if you go top 6, our record is w1, d1, l1.
Either way, if we include Everton we get w1 d1 l3 and if you include 10th, we get w3 d1 l3. In fact if you take all 17 games into account, we get w10 d3 l4. Hardly a team looking to draw matches is it? Maybe they are in fact looking to draw games, but aren't very good at it. Maybe if you'd like we can look at the league results from October through November and you can point out the differences betweeen a team set out to draw and the team that achieved 7 of them in a row.
Your fear is no longer my concern, the facts don't back you up, you're own argument doesn't back you up and your anti-Mancini skewing threshold is obvious and pathetic. Have your say, I am sure it will make perfect sense to you, but for someone who isn't anti-Mancini, how come you keep having to ram your fears down everyone else's throats? Please reply, it really does prove the point.
btajim wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Original Dub wrote:
Just out of interest - are you very confident we'll secure fourth and if not, why not?
I'm not and it's mostly down to super form of Tottenham, easy fixtures Villa have left and tough fixture list we have left. I reckon we'll finish 6th.
Villa have easy games left, NQDP? They've got to come to City. Nothing easy about that! *cough*
6th?! Would you give Mancini another season if he guides us to 6th?
crossan wrote:Come on guys lets not start falling out,all this thread is about is to guage your feelings if we miss out on the Champs league.
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