Ted Hughes wrote:I don't mind having a 'playmaker' in the squad but if our wide players & fullbacks could actually cross the ball & our centre forward could get on the end of it we wouldn't need one.
Someone like Gerrard would of course make a difference as he gets out wide & delivers great balls as well as all the other stuff but if you compare the rags, Chelsea, Spurs, Villa, Everton, to us; they all get great balls into the box, low & high, near post & far post. A lot of the goals we concede, we would never have scored if it was the other way around because we NEVER get any quality into the box & if we did, no one would be on the end of it.
I'm not against signing any kind of creative player but we need to accept that we have a problem with both fullbacks & both wide positions. It's ok having Bellamy, a striker, playing out wide if Bridge, Johnson & Zabba get great balls in but they don't.
We won't win the Premier league until we sort that out & imo it's even more important than having a 'playmaker' as some teams will stop him playing & we'll be back to the same situation where we need crosses. Arsenal have a similar problem.
lets all have a disco wrote:Can we get Zabba crossing lessons aswell please?
He cant cross the road nevermind the ball.
lets all have a disco wrote:Can we get Zabba crossing lessons aswell please?
He cant cross the road nevermind the ball.
Goaters 103 wrote:Joe Cole would help as a playmaker, and a man who can split a defence but we need a box to box general who can dictate things for us and be a threat or a factor in both his own box, and the oppositions.
We need a Vieira of 10 years ago, a McMahon in his pomp at Liverpool, dare I say it a Keane who is not only a great player but a leader. We have too many defensive role players in the middle sat on top of the back 4, and as a squad too many Indians and not enough chiefs.
Find this player, pay him whatever and make it happen City. And whilst doing so pension off Vieira please as hes done.
Goaters 103 wrote:Joe Cole would help as a playmaker, and a man who can split a defence but we need a box to box general who can dictate things for us and be a threat or a factor in both his own box, and the oppositions.
We need a Vieira of 10 years ago, a McMahon in his pomp at Liverpool, dare I say it a Keane who is not only a great player but a leader. We have too many defensive role players in the middle sat on top of the back 4, and as a squad too many Indians and not enough chiefs.
Find this player, pay him whatever and make it happen City. And whilst doing so pension off Vieira please as hes done.
CityGer wrote:Goaters 103 wrote:Joe Cole would help as a playmaker, and a man who can split a defence but we need a box to box general who can dictate things for us and be a threat or a factor in both his own box, and the oppositions.
We need a Vieira of 10 years ago, a McMahon in his pomp at Liverpool, dare I say it a Keane who is not only a great player but a leader. We have too many defensive role players in the middle sat on top of the back 4, and as a squad too many Indians and not enough chiefs.
Find this player, pay him whatever and make it happen City. And whilst doing so pension off Vieira please as hes done.
He currently plays for Roma and is called Daniele De Rossi.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:CityGer wrote:Goaters 103 wrote:Joe Cole would help as a playmaker, and a man who can split a defence but we need a box to box general who can dictate things for us and be a threat or a factor in both his own box, and the oppositions.
We need a Vieira of 10 years ago, a McMahon in his pomp at Liverpool, dare I say it a Keane who is not only a great player but a leader. We have too many defensive role players in the middle sat on top of the back 4, and as a squad too many Indians and not enough chiefs.
Find this player, pay him whatever and make it happen City. And whilst doing so pension off Vieira please as hes done.
He currently plays for Roma and is called Daniele De Rossi.
He'll never leave Rome though. Certainly not for us.
But yes, that's the sort of player we need to after in anger.
Goaters 103 wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:CityGer wrote:Goaters 103 wrote:Joe Cole would help as a playmaker, and a man who can split a defence but we need a box to box general who can dictate things for us and be a threat or a factor in both his own box, and the oppositions.
We need a Vieira of 10 years ago, a McMahon in his pomp at Liverpool, dare I say it a Keane who is not only a great player but a leader. We have too many defensive role players in the middle sat on top of the back 4, and as a squad too many Indians and not enough chiefs.
Find this player, pay him whatever and make it happen City. And whilst doing so pension off Vieira please as hes done.
He currently plays for Roma and is called Daniele De Rossi.
He'll never leave Rome though. Certainly not for us.
But yes, that's the sort of player we need to after in anger.
I dont claim to know who or where this player is but he is out there and its City's job to find him, pay whatever is needed for him and get him in. Oh and for the record this player isnt James Milner either - methinks his season may prove to be a Stephen Ireland one, ie one really good one in 5.
Socrates wrote:All missing the point here. A decent AM would face the same problem Ireland has faced this season - the part of the pitch he would operate in is already occupied by our main striker! As long as Tevez is in the side then an AM is not an option. A "proper" out and out striker in front of him might be more of a solution.
Goaters 103 wrote:Socrates wrote:All missing the point here. A decent AM would face the same problem Ireland has faced this season - the part of the pitch he would operate in is already occupied by our main striker! As long as Tevez is in the side then an AM is not an option. A "proper" out and out striker in front of him might be more of a solution.
We aren't missing the point at all. Tevez often has to drop off to try to play a link role that a decent box to box midfielder would do. Ireland isn't this player either - yes he can be a creative player in the final third, but he isn't a player who tracks a runner 40 yards and makes crucial tackles inside his own box as well. We need the prototype box to box player as priority number 1, 1a and 1aa this summer. Without him our side is unbalanced, as it has been for most of this year.
Socrates wrote:Goaters 103 wrote:Socrates wrote:All missing the point here. A decent AM would face the same problem Ireland has faced this season - the part of the pitch he would operate in is already occupied by our main striker! As long as Tevez is in the side then an AM is not an option. A "proper" out and out striker in front of him might be more of a solution.
We aren't missing the point at all. Tevez often has to drop off to try to play a link role that a decent box to box midfielder would do. Ireland isn't this player either - yes he can be a creative player in the final third, but he isn't a player who tracks a runner 40 yards and makes crucial tackles inside his own box as well. We need the prototype box to box player as priority number 1, 1a and 1aa this summer. Without him our side is unbalanced, as it has been for most of this year.
Tevez plays that way WHATEVER. When Ireland was there he did exactly the same thing, he forces the midfield back! He is a very good and effective player but is a brainless one and we need to build the team around the way he plays - something Sir BaconFace refused to do and the reason he wasn't such a success as the Swamp.
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