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RAG1: Interesting?

Tevez is better that Berbatov. Barry is at least as good as Anderson on current form or an broken Owen Hargreaves. De Jong is quality and was one of the best DM's in the league last season. Bellamy is a tosser but had a good campaign last year.

Some seriously bitter posts on here about city. They may be paying more money for players but so what? Their owner is one of the richest blokes in the world so it won't bother him - same goes for paying wages to players who aren't regulars - its a drop in the ocean.

I don't recall many United fans moaning when we were paying over 30 million for Rio Ferdinand or £28 million for Veron about 10 years ago.

Time to get some perspective.

RAG 2:The difference between the money United spend and the money that City and Chelsea spend is that United's money is self generated. The club makes what it spends, rather than some super rich dude playing his own oversized game of FM.

And you say it's 'a drop in the ocean', but what happens if/when sugar daddy decides he's had enough and leaves? City are not 'the richest club in the world' as you might hear some of their dumb fans claim, they just happen to have a rich owner writing blank cheques at the moment. Take him out of the equation and they'd go bankrupt overnight with their new wage structure.

RAG 1: So? The point I'm making is that it wasn't a level playing field - United were spending more on one player than most teams would spend in three or four seasons so its a bit rich for United fans to take the moral high ground - "it was fine when we did it but look at city - no class" - just sounds like jealousy to me.

And as regards if the owner backs out, what if the Glazers cant refinance the debt? what if Sky go bust and the arse falls out of the whole thing?

City's owner wants to make them the biggest club in the world and probabaly wont be happy until he does. then they'll generate a fair amount of cash on their own.

Even if he gets board whats he going to do? Just pull out? - no chance. He'll put someone in charge and they'll run the club succesfully like all of the other businesss they own. Even spending hundreds of millions is nothing - not even the interest on what he probably accumulates in a year - he'd probably set up some kind of trust fund with enough cash to keep it running for a hundred years.

STATING THE OBVIOUS [strike]WAGS[/strike] RAGS OF THE DAY

Come on, time to own up. Who has logged on with an assumed name and is 'Rag1' in this post? Far too balanced

I dont understand the "money we spent was self generated" crap they keep coming out with. They can generate as much as they want to but its not fuckin theirs. They are so far in debt they are spending someone elses money.

Stupid cunts.

Even if they were profitable in the past, they made themselves attractive to the likes of the Glaziers. And then let them buy the club. Now they're skint.

Stupid cunts.

Blue in the face wrote:I dont understand the "money we spent was self generated" crap they keep coming out with. They can generate as much as they want to but its not fuckin theirs. They are so far in debt they are spending someone elses money.

Stupid cunts.

Even if they were profitable in the past, they made themselves attractive to the likes of the Glaziers. And then let them buy the club. Now they're skint.

Stupid cunts.

This whole "We spent self generated money whilst they have a sugar daddy" is a load of shite.

Simply because the vast majority of this 'self generated money' initially was from the Champions League and Sky.

Third parties came into football and gave them the money - they were lucky that they just happened to be winning at the time as it's now allowed them to stay there with money repeatedly being handed to them every year, which they reinvest and receive again the next year.

Same has happened to us, money from a third party has come in and we are spending it just like they did with the Champions League money and Sky.

Sky and the Champions League forming when it did when they were winning was just luck, as was the Sheikh coming to buy City.

I love these posts but to be fair there are quite a lot of Rag 1's around who actually are aware of why they have been so successful. It's the rag 2 idiots who seem to think that the scum have got all their players from their youth set up, and shed blood, sweat, and tears to make the scum successful, and think they have some divine right to continue. None of them realise football wasn't invented in 1992.
I've got a lot of sympathy with the rag 1's of this world, it's twats like rag 2, baconface, all their fairweather glory hunting bandwagon jumpers and the arselicking media that get up my nose.

was just luck, as was the Sheikh coming to buy City.

i heard he was on a visioning exercise in the middle of the desert and was gawping up at the vast sky and admiring it; when he started to think.. 'now what can i buy that will remind me of that'

the rest as they say is history