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Will Liverpool game sell out?

Postby Mark Garrett » Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:32 pm

Only a few days left to go to the Liverpool game and it appears it hasn't sold out yet. Why not?? It's a glamour fixture, evening kick off, our first home match of the new season...

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Tickets-and- ... rpool-game

Any talk of increasing the ground's capacity would be misplaced until we have at least 3-4 seasons of selling out often and averaging 46,500+.

In the six or so seasons at Eastlands, the average gates per season have ranged from 40,000 to 46,500.
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Re: Liverpool game sold out?

Postby gillie » Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:43 pm

Mark Garrett wrote:Only a few days left to go to the Liverpool game and it appears it hasn't sold out yet. Why not?? It's a glamour fixture, evening kick off, our first home match of the new season...

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Tickets-and- ... rpool-game

Any talk of increasing the ground's capacity would be misplaced until we have at least 3-4 seasons of selling out often and averaging 46,500+.

In the six or so seasons at Eastlands, the average gates per season have ranged from 40,000 to 46,500.

Your thread title condradicts what you are saying.
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Re: Liverpool game sold out?

Postby Mark Garrett » Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:47 pm

gillie wrote:
Mark Garrett wrote:Only a few days left to go to the Liverpool game and it appears it hasn't sold out yet. Why not?? It's a glamour fixture, evening kick off, our first home match of the new season...

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Tickets-and- ... rpool-game

Any talk of increasing the ground's capacity would be misplaced until we have at least 3-4 seasons of selling out often and averaging 46,500+.

In the six or so seasons at Eastlands, the average gates per season have ranged from 40,000 to 46,500.

Your thread title condradicts what you are saying.


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Re: Liverpool game sold out?

Postby gillie » Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:57 pm

Mark Garrett wrote:
gillie wrote:
Mark Garrett wrote:Only a few days left to go to the Liverpool game and it appears it hasn't sold out yet. Why not?? It's a glamour fixture, evening kick off, our first home match of the new season...

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Tickets-and- ... rpool-game

Any talk of increasing the ground's capacity would be misplaced until we have at least 3-4 seasons of selling out often and averaging 46,500+.

In the six or so seasons at Eastlands, the average gates per season have ranged from 40,000 to 46,500.

Your thread title condradicts what you are saying.


Happy now??

I am always happy i was just trying to help lol.
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Re: Will Liverpool game sell out?

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:04 pm

Tbf, if it was to turn out like the last 2 Liverpool games, it'd be like paying 50 quid to go & have your teeth pulled on a Monday night even if you don't need them pulling & could be in the pub instead.
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Re: Will Liverpool game sell out?

Postby ENIAM NAM » Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:25 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Tbf, if it was to turn out like the last 2 Liverpool games, it'd be like paying 50 quid to go & have your teeth pulled on a Monday night even if you don't need them pulling & could be in the pub instead.


there are no excuses for this game not being a sell out. A 'big' club needs 'big' fans.
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Re: Will Liverpool game sell out?

Postby gillie » Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:34 pm

ENIAM NAM wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Tbf, if it was to turn out like the last 2 Liverpool games, it'd be like paying 50 quid to go & have your teeth pulled on a Monday night even if you don't need them pulling & could be in the pub instead.


there are no excuses for this game not being a sell out. A 'big' club needs 'big' fans.

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Re: Will Liverpool game sell out?

Postby ENIAM NAM » Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:36 pm

gillie wrote:
ENIAM NAM wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Tbf, if it was to turn out like the last 2 Liverpool games, it'd be like paying 50 quid to go & have your teeth pulled on a Monday night even if you don't need them pulling & could be in the pub instead.


there are no excuses for this game not being a sell out. A 'big' club needs 'big' fans.

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ha ha! 2 seats per person and then we will only have to sell half as many tickets!
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Re: Will Liverpool game sell out?

Postby Dameerto » Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:09 am

There was an article in the press a short time ago saying that the council currently gets the money from anything greater than Maine Road's old capacity, so unless we buy the ground or renegotiate our terms there's no incentive to increase the CoMS capacity for us. (Assuming that article was correct)
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Re: Will Liverpool game sell out?

Postby Kladze » Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:49 am

Dameerto wrote:There was an article in the press a short time ago saying that the council currently gets the money from anything greater than Maine Road's old capacity, so unless we buy the ground or renegotiate our terms there's no incentive to increase the CoMS capacity for us. (Assuming that article was correct)


IIRC it's a small percentage for every seat sold over 43,000

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong :-)
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Re: Will Liverpool game sell out?

Postby MUS » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:38 am

i cant wait... bit ashamed to admit it but my first time going to see city play!

im literally losing my city virginity on monday night..

be gentle please, im delicate.
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Re: Will Liverpool game sell out?

Postby The Man In Blue » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:26 am

Ted Hughes wrote:Tbf, if it was to turn out like the last 2 Liverpool games, it'd be like paying 50 quid to go & have your teeth pulled on a Monday night even if you don't need them pulling & could be in the pub instead.


ugh, don't remind me. worst game of last season.
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Re: Will Liverpool game sell out?

Postby ant london » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:54 am

Kladze wrote:
Dameerto wrote:There was an article in the press a short time ago saying that the council currently gets the money from anything greater than Maine Road's old capacity, so unless we buy the ground or renegotiate our terms there's no incentive to increase the CoMS capacity for us. (Assuming that article was correct)


IIRC it's a small percentage for every seat sold over 43,000

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong :-)


I think that's about right.....the lease rent was originally negotiated upon the "average" revenue we would be expected to generate per game.

That rent is due from City to the council even if we get no-one showing but clearly our "average" would not be agreed as being the ground capacity for the purposes of those calculations. So there is a "true-up" which is due for gates in excess of a certain level (which I am pretty sure is around the 43k mentioned).

The club then did a separate deal whereby it securitised its ticketing income (i think principally season ticket income) with Bear Stearns in 2000 before we moved to Eastlands.

So essentially a big part of our normal ticketing income (which will be the part factored on the 43,000....or actually i think it might have been factored on Maine Road's capacity actually as that was a level of "sales" we had been able to demonstrate as sustainable to the bank) would go to Bear Stearns to pay the interest on the securitisation bond.

Part of the income would be ours to keep

Part would go to Manchester City Council as "normal" rent and part as "bonus capacity" rent.

I would imagine that the bond would be coming to maturity soon, I think we raised about GBP 40 million (which was promptly spunked by Keegan). Wouldn't imagine that it would have been over a period of much more than 10 years....so hopefully that drain will soon be gone from the accounts
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Re: Will Liverpool game sell out?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:46 am

ENIAM NAM wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Tbf, if it was to turn out like the last 2 Liverpool games, it'd be like paying 50 quid to go & have your teeth pulled on a Monday night even if you don't need them pulling & could be in the pub instead.


there are no excuses for this game not being a sell out. A 'big' club needs 'big' fans.


I'd say that aside from Ted's extremely valid point, there are 50 other reasons why it isn't selling out, 48 of them being the ticket price, and the others being that it is Monday night and on TV.

If I didn't have a season card, you wouldn't find me anywhere near the ground on Monday, I would be in the pub. I think the club have badly misjudged the pricing on this
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Re: Will Liverpool game sell out?

Postby john@staustell » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:46 am

ENIAM NAM wrote:
gillie wrote:
ENIAM NAM wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Tbf, if it was to turn out like the last 2 Liverpool games, it'd be like paying 50 quid to go & have your teeth pulled on a Monday night even if you don't need them pulling & could be in the pub instead.


there are no excuses for this game not being a sell out. A 'big' club needs 'big' fans.

Fat bastards wanted for Liverpool game!


ha ha! 2 seats per person and then we will only have to sell half as many tickets!


Took my missus once to an end of season match against QPR. She couldn't believe the size of all the fat bastards who ate all the pies near us in the North end of the Upper Kippax. We had BIG fans in the 90s.

This internet business must have had a fair effect. Many people would just book on line but the club have had some sort of IT disaster which they are not telling us about!
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Re: Will Liverpool game sell out?

Postby King Kev » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:51 am

If I didn't have a seasoncard I'm not sure I would be going to this. It's going to be a mad dash to get there in time as I'm on a course that day and I reckon I'd have saved my £48, took my time getting home and watched it at home or in the pub.

The ticket prices are a nonsense and are sure to keep people away.
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Re: Will Liverpool game sell out?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:54 am

King Kev wrote:If I didn't have a seasoncard I'm not sure I would be going to this. It's going to be a mad dash to get there in time as I'm on a course that day and I reckon I'd have saved my £48, took my time getting home and watched it at home or in the pub.

The ticket prices are a nonsense and are sure to keep people away.


Will be interesting to see if Liverpool sell out. Loads of my mates who go to ALL Liverpool's away games have boycotted it, not necessarily because it is £48, but because of the increase from last season and the feeling they are being ripped off.
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Re: Will Liverpool game sell out?

Postby john@staustell » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:55 am

johnpb78 wrote:
King Kev wrote:If I didn't have a seasoncard I'm not sure I would be going to this. It's going to be a mad dash to get there in time as I'm on a course that day and I reckon I'd have saved my £48, took my time getting home and watched it at home or in the pub.

The ticket prices are a nonsense and are sure to keep people away.


Will be interesting to see if Liverpool sell out. Loads of my mates who go to ALL Liverpool's away games have boycotted it, not necessarily because it is £48, but because of the increase from last season and the feeling they are being ripped off.


I'm sure they'll sell out their bit though mate.
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Re: Will Liverpool game sell out?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:00 am

john@staustell wrote:
johnpb78 wrote:
King Kev wrote:If I didn't have a seasoncard I'm not sure I would be going to this. It's going to be a mad dash to get there in time as I'm on a course that day and I reckon I'd have saved my £48, took my time getting home and watched it at home or in the pub.

The ticket prices are a nonsense and are sure to keep people away.


Will be interesting to see if Liverpool sell out. Loads of my mates who go to ALL Liverpool's away games have boycotted it, not necessarily because it is £48, but because of the increase from last season and the feeling they are being ripped off.


I'm sure they'll sell out their bit though mate.


Yes, seems they have.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/tickets/latest-ticket-news

Suppose its the new manager effect, full of optimism.
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Re: Will Liverpool game sell out?

Postby Beeks » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:09 am

If we don't sell out it will be a disgrace...£50 or not for a ticket
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