Kladze wrote:Bell was arguably the best all round English midfielder I've ever seen. He did have the dubious pleasure of playing under Revie, whose tenure as England manager was an unmitigated disaster, culminating in him deserting a sunken ship and taking a job in the middle east.
Bell also, as I'm sure you're aware, suffered a cruciate ligament injury playing against United in a league cup tie in 1976. The injury was virtually a career ender.
Hope that's the info you need. :-)
shawzy wrote:
Who would you say is a modern day Colin Bell?
Kladze wrote:shawzy wrote:
Who would you say is a modern day Colin Bell?
I'm hard pressed to think of any really to be honest mate. Gerrard is probably closest.
Blue2 wrote:I still reckon ( a biased view no doubt) he is THE best player I have ever seen.
Blue2 wrote:I still reckon ( a biased view no doubt) he is THE best player I have ever seen.
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Blue2 wrote:I still reckon ( a biased view no doubt) he is THE best player I have ever seen.
Interesting .I would never have had him as the best player I have seen but I would say he would be first on my team sheet. I didn't see him as a great tackler, dribbler or header of a ball but it was all about his energy, his intelligence. He did so much simply and effectively and must have been a joy to play with because he was almost always available.If you hoped somebody would be on the end of a sweeping move he was there and as has already been said he regularly was at the back breaking up attacks.
I loved watching him score goals in his own style and with a calmness which often belied their importance.It was amazing how controlled his celebrations were when he scored and he scored plenty.
Blue2 wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Blue2 wrote:I still reckon ( a biased view no doubt) he is THE best player I have ever seen.
Interesting .I would never have had him as the best player I have seen but I would say he would be first on my team sheet. I didn't see him as a great tackler, dribbler or header of a ball but it was all about his energy, his intelligence. He did so much simply and effectively and must have been a joy to play with because he was almost always available.If you hoped somebody would be on the end of a sweeping move he was there and as has already been said he regularly was at the back breaking up attacks.
I loved watching him score goals in his own style and with a calmness which often belied their importance.It was amazing how controlled his celebrations were when he scored and he scored plenty.
Doug, i always thought of him as an excellent header of the ball and a good taclker as well, but agree dribbling was not his forte, but you can't have everything.
the_georgian_genius wrote:Genuine question - Why isn't he remembered like the rest of the top players in the 60's and 70's if he was a fantastic player?
the_georgian_genius wrote:Was he a player you had to see regulary to value his talent?
Kladze wrote:the_georgian_genius wrote:Genuine question - Why isn't he remembered like the rest of the top players in the 60's and 70's if he was a fantastic player?
I'm not really sure what you mean. He is remembered among the greats of his era.
If you mean is he remembered as a flair player a la Marsh, Best, Law etc then no - he wasn't a flair player.
brite blu sky wrote:intelligence, class, calmness.. and making it look easy.. almost out of his era.. and in that sense there is no modern player that is comparable at least not in england. It is oh so easy to be nostalgic.. but he was really ahead of his time.
MJ has been compared to Colin Bell, but really that is so far just on a a stylistic comparison.. laid back and languid.. which tbh you can only do with a certain degree of awareness. after that though all comparisons end.
the_georgian_genius wrote:Kladze wrote:the_georgian_genius wrote:Genuine question - Why isn't he remembered like the rest of the top players in the 60's and 70's if he was a fantastic player?
I'm not really sure what you mean. He is remembered among the greats of his era.
If you mean is he remembered as a flair player a la Marsh, Best, Law etc then no - he wasn't a flair player.
It's just when you watch shows or video's about football in the 60's and 70's he is hardly mentioned. You have the likes of Best, Charlton, Law, Brady, Moore, Greaves, Dalglish who if you were to mention those names to the kids of today, the majority would know who they are because of how they are portrayed in the media and by fans today. Yet if you asked kids who Colin Bell was i think the majority of them would answer he was the inventor of the telephone!
Was he like Paul Scholes? In that he was a world class footballer who shunned the media and craved the private life and is not known as the wonderfull footballers they are because of it?
Kladze wrote:By the way, I find the comparison with Paul Scholes laughable. Scholes is an excellent player but ............
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