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a full mixed bag of games and comps to take in. In the prem the run up to Chelsea at home is all important. With Balotelli and perhaps Boateng coming back into contention the key thing still is game time and getting to know each others play. It seems that the are we most need to come up to speed in is the attack. It has been the final 3rd that we have struggled to be cohesive and while we have nothing to fear going into any game imo it still remains to get a sharpness up front. With only 2 days between WBA and Chelsea it will be interesting who is going o be starting the CC game. Blackburn and Wigan give us a chance to gain some vital playing time together against known opposition and it will be those 'unglamourous' games that we need to see some improvements in communication up front in order to get some points on the board. I suppose we are all hoping that Mario will bring some much needed diversity and energy to the attack and basically prove to be the catalyst we so far seem to lack.

11 September H Blackburn Rovers
16 September A Red Bull Salzburg
19 September A Wigan Athletic
22 September A West Bromwich Albion
25 September H Chelsea
30 September H Juventus

We'll win all the home ones and struggle in the aways, which will go on to be something of a theme to our season.

imo.

LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:We'll win all the home ones and struggle in the aways, which will go on to be something of a theme to our season.

imo.

thats a bit gloomy.. what if anything do you base that view on?

Absolutely must beat Wigan and Blackburn, and put out a full strength team against Chelsea as well. Not too worried about the other 3 fixtures to be honest.

11 September H Blackburn Rovers
16 September A Red Bull Salzburg
19 September A Wigan Athletic
22 September A West Bromwich Albion
25 September H Chelsea
30 September H Juventus

I think we will win all them games apart from the Chelsea game that will be a draw.

Mark ( Blue Army ) wrote:11 September H Blackburn Rovers
16 September A Red Bull Salzburg
19 September A Wigan Athletic
22 September A West Bromwich Albion
25 September H Chelsea
30 September H Juventus

I think we will win all them games apart from the Chelsea game that will be a draw.

Yeah honestly expect us to be winning all those games up until Chelsea.I think the Chelsea and Juventus games will be a more level playing ground.Just hope we start to click upfront, playing some lovely passing football and the defence looks rock solid but realy need to start creating more chances.Tevez upfront on his own is not working so far and i hope Mancini bloods Balotelli in the league asap.We need more options upfront as Tevez just cant seem to not drift back and try and get himself involved more.Not complaining about Tevez drifting back really as he works so hard and does close down and cause problems and i really appreciate that part of his game.Just feel playing him as a lone striker is not going to work for us.

brite blu sky wrote:

LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:We'll win all the home ones and struggle in the aways, which will go on to be something of a theme to our season.

imo.

thats a bit gloomy.. what if anything do you base that view on?

I didn't say we'd lose I said I think we'll struggle.

I'm basing it on performances so far this season, what are you basing your outlook on?

LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:

brite blu sky wrote:

LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:We'll win all the home ones and struggle in the aways, which will go on to be something of a theme to our season.

imo.

thats a bit gloomy.. what if anything do you base that view on?

I didn't say we'd lose I said I think we'll struggle.

I'm basing it on performances so far this season, what are you basing your outlook on?

it was your theme for the whole season i thought was a bit gloomy.

I haven't really stated what i think we will do.. so im copping out. But as you ask, i think being off the pace or lack of spark upfront might have consequences for the season if we dont sort that out in the short term. ie we may not get results that we need in this early part of the season to stay in with a shout of top 3. Im no so worried longer term though as we have good enough players in attack from last season and additions that should add to that.
So i suppose it comes down to the price we will pay until we start to click on a consistent basis.
Performances so far this season suggest to me we can boss games both home and away mainly due to the talent in midfield and solid enough at the back. If i had a concern it would be that if we continue to compress teams into their own half we will have to be even more incisive and together to cut them open in their area.. and that may take time and certain players to be on form. Tevez, Ade, Sliva and Balotelli. Im not really expecting that anytime soon tbh and think that we will have to rely on the midfield for some goals to unlock teams. Milner, Barry, Yaya, AJ, SWP etc.
If we get those opening goals though i think we will take some teams apart. If we cant.. as with Sunderland we may start to get frustrated both in midfield and attack.. and that may set us back a bit if it happens a few times.

i expect to compete effectively and win every match. i can't even pretend like i think the next 6 have any more bearing on who we are than the next 2 or 4 or 8...

i can't be arsed to see how this next 6 or the 6 after or the 6 after that are going to be more or less important tbh.

cheers

DoomMerchant wrote:i expect to compete effectively and win every match. i can't even pretend like i think the next 6 have any more bearing on who we are than the next 2 or 4 or 8...

i can't be arsed to see how this next 6 or the 6 after or the 6 after that are going to be more or less important tbh.

cheers

Doomy i dont often agree with you but this time you are spot on my septic friend.Every game means or should mean the same.

gillie wrote:

DoomMerchant wrote:i expect to compete effectively and win every match. i can't even pretend like i think the next 6 have any more bearing on who we are than the next 2 or 4 or 8...

i can't be arsed to see how this next 6 or the 6 after or the 6 after that are going to be more or less important tbh.

cheers

Doomy i dont often agree with you

i can see your nose growing from here...horrible, terrible lies.

cheers

One game at a time

Grob wrote:One game at a time

Absolutely, it's way too early to be extrapolating on the limited results so far. The key lesson so far would be not to extrapolate, winning against Liverpool isn't so special when you lose against Sunderland.

I cant believe all the one-game-at-a-a-time lickers cant see any difference from the team at the end of last season to what we have seen so far this season... unless of course you are just going off results.

In concession though, Blackburn is on Sat.. what progress would you like to see/ expect ? 4-4-2 ;)

brite blu sky wrote:I cant believe all the one-game-at-a-a-time lickers cant see any difference from the team at the end of last season to what we have seen so far this season... unless of course you are just going off results.

In concession though, Blackburn is on Sat.. what progress would you like to see/ expect ? 4-4-2 ;)

Progress? It's a match. We should win it. That would be progress.

Thanks

DoomMerchant wrote:

brite blu sky wrote:I cant believe all the one-game-at-a-a-time lickers cant see any difference from the team at the end of last season to what we have seen so far this season... unless of course you are just going off results.

In concession though, Blackburn is on Sat.. what progress would you like to see/ expect ? 4-4-2 ;)

Progress? It's a match. We should win it. That would be progress.

Thanks

i see where your coming from there.. very clever.

Ta

brite blu sky wrote:I cant believe all the one-game-at-a-a-time lickers cant see any difference from the team at the end of last season to what we have seen so far this season... unless of course you are just going off results.

In concession though, Blackburn is on Sat.. what progress would you like to see/ expect ? 4-4-2 ;)

I think Ronk had it about right.

Extrapolation is bad for your eyesight


............ or summat ;-)

ronk wrote:

Grob wrote:One game at a time

Absolutely, it's way too early to be extrapolating on the limited results so far. The key lesson so far would be not to extrapolate, winning against Liverpool isn't so special when you lose against Sunderland.

A this year versus last year analysis is always worthwhile though when comparing points alone to see if progress is taking shape.

Team.............09/10...........10/11
Spurs (A)...........1................0
Liverpool (H).......3................1
Sunderland (A).....0...............1

Blackburn (H)......3
Wigan (A)..........1
Chelsea (H)........3
Newcastle* (H).....1
*Subbed with Burnley

To improve on last year we need to take 9 points or more from these league games.

MRM should it be the other way around for 09/10 10/11

Team.............10/11...........09/10
Spurs (A)...........1................0
Liverpool (H).......3................1
Sunderland (A).....0...............1

2pts more than corresponding fixtures from last season. That i think is an improvement.. could it be progress?

Blackburn (H)......3
Wigan (A)..........1
Chelsea (H)........3
Newcastle* (H).....1
*Subbed with Burnley

Yep it should be the other way around :-)

I'll be keeping a close eye on progress this season - you can see from this graph where the peaks and troughs are from the previous season so it will be good to see if we can keep up with the peaks and keep on going through the troughs.