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Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:38 pm
by Douglas Higginbottom
I was one of 4 watching training today which started in monsoon like rain sweeping across sideways at times.The others were Stuart Pearce,Brian Horton and Phil Brown. The difference being I was the only 1 behind the fence!

Missing today were the well known injuries plus Lescott and Ade. Boateng still not out but maybe a possible for weeekend. Back out though was Wayne Bridge and also Michael Johnson.The reserves on show today ( bearing in mind the match tonight v Arsenal) were Boyata,Cunningham,Guidetti and Razzak. Mancini did a few sessions behind the fences but the majority was on the pitch in the open which was good.

Initially Mancini took full teams for some work and it was the 2nd group that had the look of the team for Thursday and was a 4.4.2 witha diamond midfield of NDJ,Yaya,Barry and Silva and Jo up top with Carlos. At the back it was Zaba,Boyata,Vinnie and Bridge. They worked almost entirely on passing and moving and were looking pretty good.After 5 or 10 minutes they switched for Razzak,Micah,Kolo,Cunningham.SWP,Vieira,Milner and AJ with Guidetti up front with RSC.

After those session they had a game with 2 full size goals for one team to score in and the other team just had to defend and break forward with no goals at all.MJ was the guy who played for both teams. A role that seemed to suit him and quite often he released a player with clever well timed passes.As ever it seems Jo got a goal or 2, Barry set Milner up for an easy one, SWP was very lively and all in all it was a good competitive session.

When Mancini again took a group behind the fence ( this time all the defenders) I stayed to watch all the midfield and strikers work on crossing and finishing. Overall I would say the keepers won the day but it wasn't easy for finishing as the wind was strong. Great to hear all the banter going on. Joe was giving Greg Cunningham some stick.Shay was in a real fun mood winding plenty of them up. Carlos came across as very determined and was the best finisher on the day. RSC had one of his better days.NDJ was desperate to score. The attackers worked in pairs and he was paired with Patrick and they were at each other a bit in good fun.It took a while for Patrick to finally leave one for NDJ to sweep one home.

The groups switched and the defenders tried the finishing bit and the difference was evident. There is no doubt who enjoyed scoring most and that was Vinnie.The keepers kept saving and giving stick with Micah getting loads but he got his own back with 2 great finishes late on much to Joe's annoyance.

Picking on one or 2 players I thought Silva was looking good. He isn't involved like some midfielders but he really does have a class touch and superb awareness. Milner is perpetual motion and seems to me the best crosser of the ball by far.Nigel also has a top first touch and awareness but his play is all about simplicity rather than trying to be clever like Silva. They just play in different parts of the field is all that is.Micah hurt himself making a brilliant last ditch saving tackle but seemed to shrug it off. Yaya was getting some strapping but again it seemed nothing.RSC had a good day and was finishing well. AJ looking good but that last ball wasn't quite right.Guidetti worked very hard and showed some good touches but didn't get his finishing right on the day.

All in all a strong hard session and really good spirits all round. Fun to see the 3 other managers running for cover early on in the rain with only one brolly between them ( not that it was much use anyway)

Re: Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:18 pm
by brite blu sky
Great report Doug, good to hear everyone having fun even in those conditions.

Is there any concern for Ade you can detect ? seems strange him continuing to be out, what's his injury do you know?

thanks

Re: Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:36 pm
by ant london
If MJ gets injured again I will execute a camel

I am really looking forward to seeing the boozing gambler back on the pitch.....I wonder what Mancini thinks of what he's seen so far??

Re: Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:55 pm
by mcfctm
ant london wrote:If MJ gets injured again I will execute a camel

I am really looking forward to seeing the boozing gambler back on the pitch.....I wonder what Mancini thinks of what he's seen so far??


Me too. Hopefully he can come back as good maybe even better than he was but it'll be a tough ask. Me and my mate were talking about young English players who might be playing in the next WC and I mentioned johnno but he didn't seem to think he could make it in the prem again. Personally I think if he still has the motivation then he can come back and perform like he was.

Cheers Doug don't know how you managed to stay out there. If the rain was as bad as it was at old trafford (cricket ground not the sewage plant) earlier then you deserve a medal (or a pass).

Re: Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:00 pm
by Douglas Higginbottom
mcfctm wrote:
ant london wrote:If MJ gets injured again I will execute a camel

I am really looking forward to seeing the boozing gambler back on the pitch.....I wonder what Mancini thinks of what he's seen so far??


Me too. Hopefully he can come back as good maybe even better than he was but it'll be a tough ask. Me and my mate were talking about young English players who might be playing in the next WC and I mentioned johnno but he didn't seem to think he could make it in the prem again. Personally I think if he still has the motivation then he can come back and perform like he was.

Cheers Doug don't know how you managed to stay out there. If the rain was as bad as it was at old trafford (cricket ground not the sewage plant) earlier then you deserve a medal (or a pass).


We musn't have too great an expectation for MJ. It would be unbelievable if he got back to what we remember. I just hope for his sake that he gets back to playing regularly even if it isnt prem standard.

And yes the rain was crazy at times but it was funny watching the coaches battling into the worst of it and even funnier watching the 3 onlooking managers diving for whatever cover they could get.

Re: Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:04 pm
by ant london
Thing is, we don't need MJ to be the next coming of the Messiah any more

If he gets fit, we can use him sensibly and hopefully he can carry on a career as a footballer....hopefully here but elsewhere otherwise.

If this had been City 4 years ago the pressure on the lad would be immense. Fortunately, the only pressure on him (or most of it) should just come from the lad himself. Wanting to prove himself and wanting to be involved at City. If he bombs or isn't the required level post injury it will be sad but for the club no disaster these days.

Re: Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:08 pm
by Douglas Higginbottom
ant london wrote:Thing is, we don't need MJ to be the next coming of the Messiah any more

If he gets fit, we can use him sensibly and hopefully he can carry on a career as a footballer....hopefully here but elsewhere otherwise.

If this had been City 4 years ago the pressure on the lad would be immense. Fortunately, the only pressure on him (or most of it) should just come from the lad himself. Wanting to prove himself and wanting to be involved at City. If he bombs or isn't the required level post injury it will be sad but for the club no disaster these days.


That's spot on Ant.Looking at it another way , even if he isn't the superstar some recall him as, I personally feel he would be better than Vieira is now. He still creates time on the ball , sees a pass and supports the attack well. The key question will always be about fitness and if he can that back and not get unlucky again he will be a player for somebody if not us.

Re: Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:10 pm
by johnno
Always thank you!
Does MJ play reserve game on today?

Re: Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:16 pm
by Fidel Castro
So is that Razak or Rusnak? Just in case ant starts complaining Slovakia isn't in Africa again

Re: Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:23 pm
by Douglas Higginbottom
Fidel Castro wrote:So is that Razak or Rusnak? Just in case ant starts complaining Slovakia isn't in Africa again


Razak

Re: Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:24 pm
by Douglas Higginbottom
johnno wrote:Always thank you!
Does MJ play reserve game on today?


No I am sure he won't be playing tonight as I don't think his recovery programme includes a game just yet.I wouldnt expect any that trained fully today to play tonight.

Re: Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:10 pm
by Wonderwall
The lads i work with play football in knutsford every Tuesday and they have been told they cannot have the pitch tonight as pearce has it booked

Re: Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:14 pm
by Thai
Dedication as always Doug - many thanks.
Did you hear any more news on Ade?

Re: Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:16 pm
by Douglas Higginbottom
Thai wrote:Dedication as always Doug - many thanks.
Did you hear any more news on Ade?


Nothing at all re Ade. Seems like he isn't in the frame for Thursday but maybe Sunday as with Boateng.

Re: Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:00 pm
by Biamp
Cheers Doug. Great read as usual.

Re: Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:07 pm
by Mark (Blue Army)
Cheers Doug, top report as always

Re: Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:25 pm
by Ted Hughes
Thanks Doug. I salute your indefatigability.

I've lost the track of this now though. If it wasn't Albert Rusnak then who the fuck is Razack? Is he a triallist? I remember finding someone of the same name who'd trialled for Swansea I think it was. Is this the same bloke we were talking about a while ago? What position does he play?

Re: Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:08 am
by Douglas Higginbottom
Ted Hughes wrote:Thanks Doug. I salute your indefatigability.

I've lost the track of this now though. If it wasn't Albert Rusnak then who the fuck is Razack? Is he a triallist? I remember finding someone of the same name who'd trialled for Swansea I think it was. Is this the same bloke we were talking about a while ago? What position does he play?


It was Abdul Razak and apparently he plays midfield although he was working at full back yesterday.
Albert Ruznak is an attacking midfield player , often plays a wide role when I have seen him and he has been around for 2or 3 years at least.

Re: Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:15 am
by Ted Hughes
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Thanks Doug. I salute your indefatigability.

I've lost the track of this now though. If it wasn't Albert Rusnak then who the fuck is Razack? Is he a triallist? I remember finding someone of the same name who'd trialled for Swansea I think it was. Is this the same bloke we were talking about a while ago? What position does he play?


It was Abdul Razak and apparently he plays midfield although he was working at full back yesterday.
Albert Ruznak is an attacking midfield player , often plays a wide role when I have seen him and he has been around for 2or 3 years at least.


Cheers Doug.

It's bringing back memories now as I just Googled him & got the former Prime Minister of Malaysia which I can remember happening before.

Re: Training Tuesday 14/9

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:17 am
by Dronny
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Thanks Doug. I salute your indefatigability.

I've lost the track of this now though. If it wasn't Albert Rusnak then who the fuck is Razack? Is he a triallist? I remember finding someone of the same name who'd trialled for Swansea I think it was. Is this the same bloke we were talking about a while ago? What position does he play?


It was Abdul Razak and apparently he plays midfield although he was working at full back yesterday.
Albert Ruznak is an attacking midfield player , often plays a wide role when I have seen him and he has been around for 2or 3 years at least.


Doug, there was a guy I used to work with who left about 6 years ago, can you remember where he went please?

Top reporting as always Mr H! Are there many situations that you see or snippets that you're given whereby you feel you cannot tell us for fear of breaching the club's trust in you?