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Just read this off the BBC website. Quite interesting.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 986321.stm

Shame this didn't happen in England years ago. Ticket prices are fuckin stupid compared to the rest of Europe.

They are dead right to do this as someone needs to take a stand. The price of going to see a match in England is complexly insane especially for an away match.

There's a lot to be said for part-ownership by fans - the MyFC venture eventually boiled down from the unsustainable high numbers at startup into a more manageable 'club' of around 1-2000 paying something like £100 a year at Ebsfleet (ok so they got relegated to the Blue Square South but still...) If you scale that up to the numbers likely to take part for a Premier league club and adjust the cost accordingly it could provide quite a slice of the running costs for a season for a typical team, and help out the revenue versus salaries equation for the new European rules coming into force. There's the thorny issue of just how much say to give them though. And of course it would never be considered at a club with a single owner such as City (who don't need financial help right now)

I do agree that ticket prices in england are a bit steep, but no one is forcing you to pay it.

Mark ( Blue Army ) wrote:I do agree that ticket prices in england are a bit steep, but no one is forcing you to pay it.

I think it comes down to prorities, having a car, sky + for your family, mobile phone contracts, fast broadband plus your bills etc now if i gave up 2 or 3 of them i could afford a season ticket every season. My priorities have changed since i was younger but when my son is old enough to go and watch city they will change again.

So if Dortmund fans are doing this it gets reported as a Boycott.

When City fans did it with Bolton away a couple of years ago and Wigan away last season, its reported as us not bothering to go to local games ...

It's all about the maths. English football is spending a lot of money and receiving a lot of money from worldwide markets because of the big names and quality of football. All that has to be paid for somehow. A Stockport season ticket is cheaper, you get what you pay for. There aren't many starting regulars in the prem on less than £1m a year, certainly not for long.

The German's have a huge internal market and a modest international market, they're getting lots of people into stadia for reasonable prices with a pile em high and sell em cheap model. It works. One of the interesting consequences is that the German league don't tend to go toe to toe with English or Spanish clubs over players, especially on wages. German national players have inclined towards staying in Germany generally, and teams have tried to hold onto the really big stars when they get one but there's been some absolutely outstanding value to be had purchasing suitable players from Germany, especially non Germans (who are less reticent about moving).

Allegedly in '85-90 ish, Napoli were charging around £27 a ticket. I remember going into my local barber, an Italian , who informed me of the price over general football chit chat. Ok they had DM but is it any worse 25 years on?

We may only know in 25 years if we can't compete in European Football

Manx Blue wrote:Allegedly in '85-90 ish, Napoli were charging around £27 a ticket. I remember going into my local barber, an Italian , who informed me of the price over general football chit chat. Ok they had DM but is it any worse 25 years on?

We may only know in 25 years if we can't compete in European Football

Yes, I dont give a shit what Napoli charged 25 years ago

The fact is, £50 a ticket is fucking stupid, and if clubs want to charge that, then the only winners will be the online footy providers

ronk wrote:It's all about the maths. English football is spending a lot of money and receiving a lot of money from worldwide markets because of the big names and quality of football. All that has to be paid for somehow. A Stockport season ticket is cheaper, you get what you pay for. There aren't many starting regulars in the prem on less than £1m a year, certainly not for long.

The German's have a huge internal market and a modest international market, they're getting lots of people into stadia for reasonable prices with a pile em high and sell em cheap model. It works. One of the interesting consequences is that the German league don't tend to go toe to toe with English or Spanish clubs over players, especially on wages. German national players have inclined towards staying in Germany generally, and teams have tried to hold onto the really big stars when they get one but there's been some absolutely outstanding value to be had purchasing suitable players from Germany, especially non Germans (who are less reticent about moving).

I think a Stockport season ticket is probably more expensive than one at most German and Dutch top league clubs. Do you really think the quality is better at Stockport? And you said yourself, English football is spending a lot of money AND RECEIVING A LOT OF MONEY from worldwide markets.....all that has to be paid for? So what is happening with the all that money they're receiving from worldwide markets? I don't mind English football is more expensive, but the difference is just far too big. I'd love to have a season ticket at City, don't think I'd be able to afford it though realistically. Maybe that's why the atmosphere in English stadiums has turned to absolute shite too, I think a lot of people with really big heart for the club increasingly can't afford to go to games as often as they'd like. Not saying all rich cunts don't want to create any atmosphere but the majority just sit there complaining about people standing/shouting/swearing/not being an upper-class prick. Fuck off and go and watch polo then you cunt. Rant over.

Fidel Castro wrote:

ronk wrote:It's all about the maths. English football is spending a lot of money and receiving a lot of money from worldwide markets because of the big names and quality of football. All that has to be paid for somehow. A Stockport season ticket is cheaper, you get what you pay for. There aren't many starting regulars in the prem on less than £1m a year, certainly not for long.

The German's have a huge internal market and a modest international market, they're getting lots of people into stadia for reasonable prices with a pile em high and sell em cheap model. It works. One of the interesting consequences is that the German league don't tend to go toe to toe with English or Spanish clubs over players, especially on wages. German national players have inclined towards staying in Germany generally, and teams have tried to hold onto the really big stars when they get one but there's been some absolutely outstanding value to be had purchasing suitable players from Germany, especially non Germans (who are less reticent about moving).

I think a Stockport season ticket is probably more expensive than one at most German and Dutch top league clubs. Do you really think the quality is better at Stockport? And you said yourself, English football is spending a lot of money AND RECEIVING A LOT OF MONEY from worldwide markets.....all that has to be paid for? So what is happening with the all that money they're receiving from worldwide markets? I don't mind English football is more expensive, but the difference is just far too big. I'd love to have a season ticket at City, don't think I'd be able to afford it though realistically. Maybe that's why the atmosphere in English stadiums has turned to absolute shite too, I think a lot of people with really big heart for the club increasingly can't afford to go to games as often as they'd like. Not saying all rich cunts don't want to create any atmosphere but the majority just sit there complaining about people standing/shouting/swearing/not being an upper-class prick. Fuck off and go and watch polo then you cunt. Rant over.

Tommy you make me piss you have to have at least one rant a week.

Fidel Castro wrote:

ronk wrote:It's all about the maths. English football is spending a lot of money and receiving a lot of money from worldwide markets because of the big names and quality of football. All that has to be paid for somehow. A Stockport season ticket is cheaper, you get what you pay for. There aren't many starting regulars in the prem on less than £1m a year, certainly not for long.

The German's have a huge internal market and a modest international market, they're getting lots of people into stadia for reasonable prices with a pile em high and sell em cheap model. It works. One of the interesting consequences is that the German league don't tend to go toe to toe with English or Spanish clubs over players, especially on wages. German national players have inclined towards staying in Germany generally, and teams have tried to hold onto the really big stars when they get one but there's been some absolutely outstanding value to be had purchasing suitable players from Germany, especially non Germans (who are less reticent about moving).

I think a Stockport season ticket is probably more expensive than one at most German and Dutch top league clubs. Do you really think the quality is better at Stockport? And you said yourself, English football is spending a lot of money AND RECEIVING A LOT OF MONEY from worldwide markets.....all that has to be paid for? So what is happening with the all that money they're receiving from worldwide markets? I don't mind English football is more expensive, but the difference is just far too big. I'd love to have a season ticket at City, don't think I'd be able to afford it though realistically. Maybe that's why the atmosphere in English stadiums has turned to absolute shite too, I think a lot of people with really big heart for the club increasingly can't afford to go to games as often as they'd like. Not saying all rich cunts don't want to create any atmosphere but the majority just sit there complaining about people standing/shouting/swearing/not being an upper-class prick. Fuck off and go and watch polo then you cunt. Rant over.

Where did the money go? How much money is Joey Barton on? Kieran Dyer, Danny Mills, Sturridge (that contract coming straight from a massive string of injuries in a totally unproven player) etc. It's one thing for the top players to be on £100k a week (few are), there are a lot of ordinary footballers out there on huge money. Leeds spent the equivalent of all their income from reaching the CL semi on Ian Harte's new contract. Clubs have been absolutely throwing money down the toilet, we've been bad before and since the takeover. Once a certain number of clubs do it, almost everyone has to.

English fans tend to protest in their own private way, they grumble for a while about prices and then eventually just give up the season ticket. It's a process that can lead to people giving up that ticket at a time when the team are improving and prices haven't gone up. Just not bothering to show up because you think an individual game is overpriced is so much less effective than a protest. Go down to the ground but don't go in, have a little rally and head home. That'd get attention.