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How long do you give him? Though they've hardly got a great side at the moment he appears to be well out of his depth.

They've been going on for weeks about how the Liverpool fans are the best in the world and famous for giving managers time. Can't see how they can sack him then. Hopefully, he'll be there till at least Easter, cos they are following the Leeds model for cubs. Rags next, please

Well RBS will be in control of Liverpool in a few weeks so I guess it'll be up to them!

When he was appointed I said ( somethread, somewhere on here, ICBA), words to the effect of , I don't believe he can survive the first six games.

Today I watched the City game with a scouse 1 fan. He actually wants liverpool to fail .The reason : then the can get the freeloaders out (the americans). I suggested that his clubs problems were deeper than that . To whit he replied. "Let's start at the very beginning". What else could I do except join in..... "when we read we beg....."

Apparently there's a big meeting in scouse this week about the future of the club.... I have no idea what's going on (Marvin Gaye !).

Haha love the thread title

Might it be smarter to keep him at least until late December or early January? Ownership issues aside, the team just isn't very good, and that absolutely won't change until new players can get brought in. Let Hodgson struggle a bit, if he turns it around fine, if he can't bring in a new man in time to change the squad how he wants it at least a little bit.

Benitez spends fortunes and has a revolving door, problem is, ones that come in by and large arent as good as the ones leaving. Gillett and Hicks dont have the funds to keep this going or give any incoming manager carte blanche to change it around with fresh funds. The main goalscorer has injury problems. The main starfish isnt getting any younger. As far as I can see their youth policy has been neglected since the Houillier years. I cant see how any liverpool fan can pin all the current stuff on Hodgson. Who says the job is too big for him? hes managed Inter Milan when they were miles off the level they are today, so I think hes well qualified. Benitez left him striking options of a 50 per cent fit Torres and David N'gog! you could compile a mini list of the strikers liverpool have had on their books over the last 3 or 4 years and most of them would still cut it there AND still be happy to play there. Benitez fucked them off with no contingency. Take away the Champions league win and Benitez's legacy is a flimsy one.

Bianchi on Ice wrote:Benitez spends fortunes and has a revolving door, problem is, ones that come in by and large arent as good as the ones leaving. Gillett and Hicks dont have the funds to keep this going or give any incoming manager carte blanche to change it around with fresh funds. The main goalscorer has injury problems. The main starfish isnt getting any younger. As far as I can see their youth policy has been neglected since the Houillier years. I cant see how any liverpool fan can pin all the current stuff on Hodgson. Who says the job is too big for him? hes managed Inter Milan when they were miles off the level they are today, so I think hes well qualified. Benitez left him striking options of a 50 per cent fit Torres and David N'gog! you could compile a mini list of the strikers liverpool have had on their books over the last 3 or 4 years and most of them would still cut it there AND still be happy to play there. Benitez fucked them off with no contingency. Take away the Champions league win and Benitez's legacy is a flimsy one.

This all true.

But the fact is their start has been appalling. Difficult to prove I know, but I don't think it would've been this bad had they still had Rafa in charge.

Rafa was a bit dodgy in the transfer market for sure. But as for holding a team together and making the players he has over-perform, he was pretty good. I said a few weeks ago I had a feeling that Rafa's solid defensive tactics were holding Scouse in an 'over-achieving' position and they tinker with it at their peril.

For as shit as their squad has become it's still better than what he had at fulham.

The question is will these self important prima donnas give him the same effort they did?

Worse start for 57 years and even then they finished second but i cannot see them getting second this season. my mates a big red and he's totally gutted beyond belief. We were just laughing at him saying we've felt like that for over thirty years pal, get used to it. I really thought it was a great appointment by Liverpool. I like Hodgson and thought he'd do well there. Just shows you what i know doesn't it.

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:For as shit as their squad has become it's still better than what he had at fulham.

The question is will these self important prima donnas give him the same effort they did?

He was able (& allowed to) play English, big strikers, avoid relegation, type football at Fulham though. Whether he'll be allowed to do that at Liverpool & whether Torres would be willing to put himself about & hold up the ball like Bobby Zamora or Clint Dempsey is another question.

Weird thing is I looked on RAWK and they are all talking about protesting against the owners, slagging off those who aren't and rallying calls to increase numbers of protesters.

Obviously buying nothing but shit for the last few years as their team ages or moves on isn't the problem, the owners are. How funny is it that this amazing club who have been most vocal in their disgust of City believe the way forward for them is to replace their owners with someone richer and buy their way out of trouble.

Slim wrote:Weird thing is I looked on RAWK and they are all talking about protesting against the owners, slagging off those who aren't and rallying calls to increase numbers of protesters.

Obviously buying nothing but shit for the last few years as their team ages or moves on isn't the problem, the owners are. How funny is it that this amazing club who have been most vocal in their disgust of City believe the way forward for them is to replace their owners with someone richer and buy their way out of trouble.

All clubs would change their attitude overnight if if they had the chance of an owner like Sheikh Mansour. It looks like Liverpool are about to take on our traditional role as we take on theirs. I will love it if this goes on for decades.

Funny how the Spanish waiter is no longer the villain of the piece, the thing the Scouse 1 fans don't seem to get is that their club is financially and squad wise on a par with Fulham. That is IMHO the reason Hodgeson was appointed.
BTW, I can see all this being mirrored at the swamp when Taggart goes. Now that will be entertaining.

I believe someone said of the appointment that they felt sorry for hodgeson as the way things currently are a liverpool, the role is a "poison chalice" and boy did they have that right
if it was true that we offered 50 million for torres then they were mad for not accepting it - to have your two main strikers as torres and Ngog is completely unacceptable and if I was a liverpool fan I would be hopping mad