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The club is just not the same as I remember it,most of the fans have become to take themselves far to seriously,you have lost your sense of humour.The club is overflowing with mercanaries who are being paid ridiculous sums of money and that is why the club is £120 odd million in debt, no one gives a dam and whilst I dearly wish success in the future to those fans who turn up week after week I cannot count myself as a fan of the club I followed home and away from being a kid in the early sixties,my club has had its heart ripped out and I really fear for the future after the owners get bored.

Bye then!

If only we could get back to the debt free days of Swales & players who came to City only for the sheer love of the club, like Mike Channon & Steve Daley.

I agree Crossan , its not the same...... we are now likely to win trophies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FFS man get a grip. We were great in the late 60's and early 70's , since them we have largely been shit. If you cant go along with it then tough. Sorry to see you go and I have some sympathy with your view, but times have changed , so have City, you're a luddite.

PS there is NO debt.

crossan wrote:The [strike]club[/strike] is just not the same...

...or is it just the game itself that is the problem?

A lot of your love for your club has been hope over expectation - almost a suspension of disbelief in favour of the thrill of seeing one of your players dash towards the terrace your stood on, ball at feet, options in sight...

If you're losing - or have lost? - that camaraderie you feel with your fellow fan, you begin to wonder why so much of your hard-earned or even your time is being devoured by what binds (bound) you together.

I've seen a lot of friends turn their backs on my team and seriously struggled to persuade myself to renew in the summer. As much as I appreciate that we post from different ends of the spectrum of expectation these days, I recognise the basis of the post that you have made.

Nothing good - even if that was support with minimal return - lasts forever.

I thought we were getting away from these kinds of posts.

Crossan on his fortnightly 'we're not the club we used to be bollox'

*sigh*

This again.... come on man we've been here and discussed this before. It's getting old.

As a City fan who has only known living in 'their' shadow, countless relegations, numerous new ways for our club to be a laughing stock etc etc, these posts get right on my tits.

I still love you Crossan me ol mucka:o)

Crossan. I know in the past i have been scathing of your posts on this subject, but i'll try and have a bit more empathy this time. The thing is though, as walmai points out the game itself has changed irrevocably, even from the time i started getting into footy in the mid/late '90s. You may feel totally disenchanted by the sums of money swilling about, or the wages players earn, or any one of hundreds of things that the prem era has brought and there's no faulting you in that; if it's how you feel it's how you feel.

The biggest change of all imo is something that has happened to every single area of life in the 21st century, and that is the internet and the 24/7 media coverage of every single little fucking detail of everything analysed, repeated, debated, repeated again ad infinitum. this is something we can never get away from ever again, and if that has fucked things up for you i'm genuinely sorry about it and gutted that another blue has come to this kind of pass.

For me though, City gives me a feeling like nothing elee in my life; walking up the steps to 211 into a full stadium to watch a game, giving it out to a pub full of plastics in Preston on sunday, sitting at my desk on a shite, boring day at an interminable job daydreaming about the next game, or who will play wide left, or just how fucking good big Vinnie has become.

At the end though, the club is still the club. Fans like me and you are the sons of fans who were the sons of fans who were the sons of fans and so on. We are the club, and nothing, no money, rich/skint owners, bullshitting journos, spoilt players or inept referees can destroy that.

Keep the faith mate.

Ahh the good old days Crossan, Stuart Pearce as manager, relegations, humilation, yo-yo club, not a pot to piss in, appalling players, laughing stock of football, 35 trophyless years, players who played for the love of the shirt like Ousmane Dabo, Gerry Creaney, Ged Brannan, Lee Bradbury, Alan Kernaghan et al.

God how we must miss them eh?

Dont like it? Join Colin Schindler out of the exit door then.

Blue Blood wrote:*sigh*

This again.... come on man we've been here and discussed this before. It's getting old.

No this time its neither a wind up or anything like that,I really don't like the way things are going at Eastlands and I don't think I ever will,yes I loved the old days and I loved the players not only from the 60s but others like Lakey,Kinkie,the Goat,Benabia and others too numerous to mention but I have no empathy with the likes of Tevez,Adebayor the Toures,Dejong,Lescott etc.
I have mulled all of the issues over and despite my love for Manchester City as it was I cannot bring myself to say that I support the club as it is now.

Net debt is only about £40m Crossan and nearly all that is the Net Present Value of future lease payments on COMS so is only theoretical accountancy type debt not real debt.

crossan wrote:

Blue Blood wrote:*sigh*

This again.... come on man we've been here and discussed this before. It's getting old.

No this time its neither a wind up or anything like that,I really don't like the way things are going at Eastlands and I don't think I ever will,yes I loved the old days and I loved the players not only from the 60s but others like Lakey,Kinkie,the Goat,Benabia and others too numerous to mention but I have no empathy with the likes of Tevez,Adebayor the Toures,Dejong,Lescott etc.
I have mulled all of the issues over and despite my love for Manchester City as it was I cannot bring myself to say that I support the club as it is now.

that's ok Crossie lad

why don't you form a breakaway club called FC City?

A club for the fans run by the fans..It might catch on ;-)

Please note I am crossie I am not Crossan!!!!!!

Crossan is a rag!

Have to say that I've heard this sort of thing for years now. From my Uncle Phil in the 60s, for the same sort of reasons, he couldn't connect with modern day players and so on. That's not to belittle Crossan, it's just that people have had these feelings for as long as I remember.

Maybe it's the whole game that's moved on.

Lev Bronstein wrote:Have to say that I've heard this sort of thing for years now. From my Uncle Phil in the 60s, for the same sort of reasons, he couldn't connect with modern day players and so on. That's not to belittle Crossan, it's just that people have had these feelings for as long as I remember.

Maybe it's the whole game that's moved on.

And left a helluva lot of supporters behind.

Yawn

I once met Joe Mercer on a train. He was kind and generous with his time to a kid who was bothering him when he wanted peace and quiet. He told me how sometimes he went to a greasy spoon cafe near Maine Road and if I saw him there the next Thursday he'd give me tickets to a match. Yes I loved those days too but they are gone and they're not coming back. Neither is train fare for seventeen shillings and sixpence or a bacon butty with HP sauce for five bob. I want to see City win a trophy or six before I'm too old, too blind, too fucked up, too deaf, or too dead to enjoy it. So please please sod off with all this nostalgia, life has to be lived going forwards.