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AJ is..

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:28 pm
by Nijinsky
Better than Conaldo was, when he 1st signed for United..

Sure he's naive and he makes the wrong choice sometimes, but he is so exciting to watch and I can only see him getting better! His run and shot onto the bar tonight was awesome! He has a cockiness, that some would see as a flaw, but is apparent in all the top players.

I'm not saying he's world class, but that his potential is frightening! I also think, he is going to be underused.. We have Silva, who is looking like a class act and an important part of our team, balotelli to come.. can we fit them all in? I honestly think that AJ will go on to be world class and the fact that I'm thinking he'll not be used enough, is indicative of the squad we have.

Such good times ahead!

Re: AJ is..

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:29 pm
by gillie
Fuckin brilliant!

Re: AJ is..

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:34 pm
by carl_feedthegoat
If that ball had gone in after taking the piss out of the last 2 defenders then it would have gone down as one of the best goals ever in this competition.

He is class and I for one do not want him to change his game at all....very few wingers try and do what he does because they get told NOT TO DO SO.

As you were AJ ...as you were...

Re: AJ is..

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:38 pm
by xavi6
Nijinsky wrote:Better than Conaldo was, when he 1st signed for United.


In fairness the Tranny was 18 and AJ was 22 so bit of a difference in terms of age and development.

I agree with your general sentiment though, he is genuine class and very exciting.

Re: AJ is..

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:53 pm
by shortagain
He lost the ball 8 out of 10 times he had it, including leading up to their goal. Now Silva, he is a proper footballer with a magic wand for a left foot, just like Kinky had

Re: AJ is..

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:02 pm
by Nijinsky
xavi6 wrote:
Nijinsky wrote:Better than Conaldo was, when he 1st signed for United.


In fairness the Tranny was 18 and AJ was 22 so bit of a difference in terms of age and development.

I agree with your general sentiment though, he is genuine class and very exciting.


I did think he was older, but I couldn't be bothered to look it up.. so thanks. The feeling is still the same, in that they both had potential yet neither were the finished article. That was all I meant in my comparison, I'm genuinely excited as to what he can achieve!

And the comment above.. nonsense! He had a great game, not the best on the pitch and Silva definitely had the better game, but AJ played well and excited many!

Re: AJ is..

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:03 pm
by brite blu sky
carl_feedthegoat wrote:If that ball had gone in after taking the piss out of the last 2 defenders then it would have gone down as one of the best goals ever in this competition.

He is class and I for one do not want him to change his game at all....very few wingers try and do what he does because they get told NOT TO DO SO.

As you were AJ ...as you were...


x a lot of times.

thats one of the best posts ive read of yours carl.. well in.

Re: AJ is..

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:35 am
by mr_nool
Nijinsky wrote:Better than Conaldo was, when he 1st signed for United..

Sure he's naive and he makes the wrong choice sometimes, but he is so exciting to watch and I can only see him getting better! His run and shot onto the bar tonight was awesome! He has a cockiness, that some would see as a flaw, but is apparent in all the top players.

I'm not saying he's world class, but that his potential is frightening! I also think, he is going to be underused.. We have Silva, who is looking like a class act and an important part of our team, balotelli to come.. can we fit them all in? I honestly think that AJ will go on to be world class and the fact that I'm thinking he'll not be used enough, is indicative of the squad we have.

Such good times ahead!


Don't wanna piss on your chips, but Ronaldo's greatest asset is his pace paired with brilliant technique. AJ doesn't have the same pace. Ronaldo was pretty pap his first years, until he learned how to control the ball in speed, which made him almost unstoppable. I hate the cunt, but so far AJ got nothing on him.

Re: AJ is..

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:14 am
by s1ty m
mr_nool wrote:
Nijinsky wrote:Better than Conaldo was, when he 1st signed for United..

Sure he's naive and he makes the wrong choice sometimes, but he is so exciting to watch and I can only see him getting better! His run and shot onto the bar tonight was awesome! He has a cockiness, that some would see as a flaw, but is apparent in all the top players.

I'm not saying he's world class, but that his potential is frightening! I also think, he is going to be underused.. We have Silva, who is looking like a class act and an important part of our team, balotelli to come.. can we fit them all in? I honestly think that AJ will go on to be world class and the fact that I'm thinking he'll not be used enough, is indicative of the squad we have.

Such good times ahead!


Don't wanna piss on your chips, but Ronaldo's greatest asset is his pace paired with brilliant technique. AJ doesn't have the same pace. Ronaldo was pretty pap his first years, until he learned how to control the ball in speed, which made him almost unstoppable. I hate the cunt, but so far AJ got nothing on him.


can't disagree.

however...when aj loses his greedy tendencies, i know, i know, he will be fabulous. he improves all the time and will get 100 caps for england if he stays fit. fingers crossed, he looks like the type who don't get knocks, the opposite of crocky, trevor francis, etc.

david silva is a different level for me, could be the best player in the prem in a year. that is one great buy by mancini.

Re: AJ is..

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:25 am
by Nijinsky
mr_nool wrote:
Nijinsky wrote:Better than Conaldo was, when he 1st signed for United..

Sure he's naive and he makes the wrong choice sometimes, but he is so exciting to watch and I can only see him getting better! His run and shot onto the bar tonight was awesome! He has a cockiness, that some would see as a flaw, but is apparent in all the top players.

I'm not saying he's world class, but that his potential is frightening! I also think, he is going to be underused.. We have Silva, who is looking like a class act and an important part of our team, balotelli to come.. can we fit them all in? I honestly think that AJ will go on to be world class and the fact that I'm thinking he'll not be used enough, is indicative of the squad we have.

Such good times ahead!


Don't wanna piss on your chips, but Ronaldo's greatest asset is his pace paired with brilliant technique. AJ doesn't have the same pace. Ronaldo was pretty pap his first years, until he learned how to control the ball in speed, which made him almost unstoppable. I hate the cunt, but so far AJ got nothing on him.


You're not pissing on my chips - you just have a different opinion! AJ is far from slow, granted not as quick as Ronaldo, but he ain't that far off.. Also he wasn't pap, just not world player of the year - which is what he went to become. My only comparison is one of potential, and I was just trying to say I'm excited as to what AJ can achieve.

Re: AJ is..

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:35 am
by mr_nool
Nijinsky wrote:
mr_nool wrote:
Nijinsky wrote:Better than Conaldo was, when he 1st signed for United..

Sure he's naive and he makes the wrong choice sometimes, but he is so exciting to watch and I can only see him getting better! His run and shot onto the bar tonight was awesome! He has a cockiness, that some would see as a flaw, but is apparent in all the top players.

I'm not saying he's world class, but that his potential is frightening! I also think, he is going to be underused.. We have Silva, who is looking like a class act and an important part of our team, balotelli to come.. can we fit them all in? I honestly think that AJ will go on to be world class and the fact that I'm thinking he'll not be used enough, is indicative of the squad we have.

Such good times ahead!


Don't wanna piss on your chips, but Ronaldo's greatest asset is his pace paired with brilliant technique. AJ doesn't have the same pace. Ronaldo was pretty pap his first years, until he learned how to control the ball in speed, which made him almost unstoppable. I hate the cunt, but so far AJ got nothing on him.


You're not pissing on my chips - you just have a different opinion! AJ is far from slow, granted not as quick as Ronaldo, but he ain't that far off.. Also he wasn't pap, just not world player of the year - which is what he went to become. My only comparison is one of potential, and I was just trying to say I'm excited as to what AJ can achieve.


I obviously hope he will keep on developing and become a great City player as well. I just don't think he can reach Tranaldo's level. And all though being fast the first few yards, I think he's way off Tranaldo's pace.

Re: AJ is..

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:57 am
by MaineRoadMemories
...shocking at crossing the ball and needs to learn from David Silva how to do it correctly.

Re: AJ is..

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:00 am
by Piccsnumberoneblue
Greedy

Re: AJ is..

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:20 am
by Douglas Higginbottom
MaineRoadMemories wrote:...shocking at crossing the ball and needs to learn from David Silva how to do it correctly.


Very true. Truly talented lad but just hasnt got the touch to get his crosses right. To be fair to him he does practice them a lot but even when he isn't on the move and there are no defenders around he is just very hit and miss with crosses/passes.

Re: AJ is..

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:27 am
by King Kev
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Greedy

Yes he can be at times. I reckon Tevez gets frustrated with him at times when he is in a better position but Johnson opts to shoot.

I'm hoping this is something he will grow out of and he will become an even better player than he is already.

Re: AJ is..

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:28 am
by Ted Hughes
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
MaineRoadMemories wrote:...shocking at crossing the ball and needs to learn from David Silva how to do it correctly.


Very true. Truly talented lad but just hasnt got the touch to get his crosses right. To be fair to him he does practice them a lot but even when he isn't on the move and there are no defenders around he is just very hit and miss with crosses/passes.


As someone who moans about this on a daily basis, I of course agree but I would say that amongst a plethora of poor efforts, he's produced one or two which were very close to finding their target during the last two games & they would have resulted in goals. I don't think he lacks the ability, he just needs to refine it & also to be looking to do it more often. Once he realises the full importance of an end product, he'll start to produce more imo.

Re: AJ is..

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:31 am
by Mike J
i really wish that on that hit the bar had flown in. it would of been one of the great european city goals imo.

what a top class player he is. HAS to start against the gunners. him and silva can cause massive amounts of damaage to opposition.

Re: AJ is..

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:49 am
by Niall Quinns Discopants
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
MaineRoadMemories wrote:...shocking at crossing the ball and needs to learn from David Silva how to do it correctly.


Very true. Truly talented lad but just hasnt got the touch to get his crosses right. To be fair to him he does practice them a lot but even when he isn't on the move and there are no defenders around he is just very hit and miss with crosses/passes.


What does it matter though? I mean, we haven't scored single Premier League goal from a header this season to my recollection. I don't think Mancini's brand of football ever was or will ever be about wingers running near the corner flag and crossing from there. That's why he has wingers on opposite sides to their "natural" flank. Because he wants them to cut in and have a crack at goal or deliver pass through ground to striker(s).

Re: AJ is..

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:50 am
by Renato_CTID
Since the first time I watched AJ with a Boro shirt against us I tell everybody here in Italy:" I support for City, the squad of next football Genius!"

Re: AJ is..

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:00 am
by MaineRoadMemories
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
MaineRoadMemories wrote:...shocking at crossing the ball and needs to learn from David Silva how to do it correctly.


Very true. Truly talented lad but just hasnt got the touch to get his crosses right. To be fair to him he does practice them a lot but even when he isn't on the move and there are no defenders around he is just very hit and miss with crosses/passes.


[highlight]What does it matter though?[/highlight]I mean, we haven't scored single Premier League goal from a header this season to my recollection. I don't think Mancini's brand of football ever was or will ever be about wingers running near the corner flag and crossing from there. That's why he has wingers on opposite sides to their "natural" flank. Because he wants them to cut in and have a crack at goal or deliver pass through ground to striker(s).


It matters because we'll play against many teams that will shut Johnson out completely from cutting inside and openly show him the by-line on the right wing onto his weak foot and then into the corner. Sometimes you need to simply cross or pass the ball quickly into the box. You are suggesting that it's not important he develops a crucial aspect of any wide player's game. Johnson's already had a few quiet games this season.

If he learns to cross or pass first time like David Silva does he would have not had a single quiet game and would be on the way to becoming an all time England Great. He's 23 years old and needs to develop this aspect of his game which should have being trained into him when he was under 20.

I'm only being overly critical of Johnson as I see it in him to become the best wide player in the country and learning how to cross and pass a ball into the penalty box is something that can be learned with some practice. The skills he shows beating men is something that cannot be naturally trained so he's onto a winner but lets develop him further to be the best.