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Marwood article in the Telegraph. Good read and good timing given the Rooney affair. Also Winter has been positive on City recently so I'm guessing the interview is his reward

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Winter has been very close in with Marwood for a bit now, with Marwood trying to put across what is really happening at City, as opposed to the Sunday Supplement nonsense.

Excellent article and I never really understood why Marwood got such abuse on here at times - absolutely no reason for it and often by people who haven't the faintest clue what he is doing for our club. Apparently working for Nike was a crime in some eyes.

Good article that.

makes me think Marwood isn't a wanker, although i've no idea why i thought he was anytway.

Bingo Lewis wrote:makes me think Marwood isn't a wanker, although i've no idea why i thought he was anytway.

Off course he's a wanker....just like you and me. But he gave a great insight into the club there.

Bingo Lewis wrote:makes me think Marwood isn't a wanker, although i've no idea why i thought he was anytway.

He was the "not the director of football" who Hughes was pointing the finger at.

Damn, I'm impressed!! Finally a positive City article written by a paper that usually slags us.

Who is victor Moses? Any good?

dazby wrote:Who is victor Moses? Any good?

It now appears not. Good choice Brian.

dazby wrote:Who is victor Moses? Any good?

Forward who joined Wigan from Palace last Jan. Hasn't lived up to expectations. We made the right choice!

Good read.

Top post Bob. Thanks for that... :-)

If I humbly may, Im gonna repeat my selfish self...:-)
We live a very challenging, demanding, crowded, rushed world and to succeed it take top attitutude and wide qualifications.
Glad always more and more people are gonna learning the obvious:
First Class Owner_wants first class directors_to refurbish a very Classy Club into a top winning one.


Cheers from a fucking_gloryhunting_WOP.... :-)

This is a brilliant article - and surprisingly revealing. It also suggests to me that Marwood's arrival and the job they had earmarked for him was the death knell for Hughes. Italian managers are used to this kind of intrusion from people behind the scenes, whereas British managers like either total control or all their own people in jobs around them.

It's a fascinating read.

Very good read.Thanks for posting it!

It's a great read & I agree it probably signalled the end of Hughes but it also shows how the bosses have a plan to make the structure of the club run independantly of the manager which is something I've been calling for. if it means sacrificing a manager or two in order to achieve it then so be it. Mancini seems to be happy with it though.

I'd like to see it taken one step further. I'd like us to have a style of play built into the fabric of the club, like Barca do, so players at every age are taught to pass & move & have an attacking tradition just like Barca. Whoever takes on the managers job then has to win stuff in the tradition of the club. Barca have proved it can be done. We can adapt it for our football & be the English version. It sounds as if that model may be the one Marwood is following & that's fantastic. I won't slag him anymore!

Ted Hughes wrote:It's a great read & I agree it probably signalled the end of Hughes but it also shows how the bosses have a plan to make the structure of the club run independantly of the manager which is something I've been calling for. if it means sacrificing a manager or two in order to achieve it then so be it. Mancini seems to be happy with it though.

I'd like to see it taken one step further. I'd like us to have a style of play built into the fabric of the club, like Barca do, so players at every age are taught to pass & move & have an attacking tradition just like Barca. Whoever takes on the managers job then has to win stuff in the tradition of the club. Barca have proved it can be done. We can adapt it for our football & be the English version. It sounds as if that model may be the one Marwood is following & that's fantastic. I won't slag him anymore!

Ted this 'style' thing smacks a bit of Arsenal. Lots of style, no trophies. Whilst Barca have an excellent crop of worldy players right now I'm not sure it was always the same nor will it be, it's just all come together. In the past they used the Real model of buying. And a certain team over the road had a very good crop of youngsters in the early 90s and bugger-all since, though some RAG journos still refer to their 'youth system'.

That said if we can avoid another Pearce then great!

john@staustell wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:It's a great read & I agree it probably signalled the end of Hughes but it also shows how the bosses have a plan to make the structure of the club run independantly of the manager which is something I've been calling for. if it means sacrificing a manager or two in order to achieve it then so be it. Mancini seems to be happy with it though.

I'd like to see it taken one step further. I'd like us to have a style of play built into the fabric of the club, like Barca do, so players at every age are taught to pass & move & have an attacking tradition just like Barca. Whoever takes on the managers job then has to win stuff in the tradition of the club. Barca have proved it can be done. We can adapt it for our football & be the English version. It sounds as if that model may be the one Marwood is following & that's fantastic. I won't slag him anymore!

Ted this 'style' thing smacks a bit of Arsenal. Lots of style, no trophies. Whilst Barca have an excellent crop of worldy players right now I'm not sure it was always the same nor will it be, it's just all come together. In the past they used the Real model of buying. And a certain team over the road had a very good crop of youngsters in the early 90s and bugger-all since, though some RAG journos still refer to their 'youth system'.

That said if we can avoid another Pearce then great!

I certainly can't see another English/British manager at the club for many years (not that I'm remotely arsed about this).

Alioune DVToure wrote:This is a brilliant article - and surprisingly revealing. It also suggests to me that Marwood's arrival and the job they had earmarked for him was the death knell for Hughes. Italian managers are used to this kind of intrusion from people behind the scenes, whereas British managers like either total control or all their own people in jobs around them.

It's a fascinating read.

I wouldn't talk of "intrusion" - if I may - but teamwork.
What should be spotted is that - even if for us fans football is still a romantic passion - for Clubs' Owners is - since a couple of decades at least -[highlight]a very demanding "Corpotate Investment"[/highlight].
Therefore - being absolutely bright and clear that a trust of brains and different qualifications works better and more efficiently that the very best of the best single person - it is plain that a Company which invests billions of GBPs cannot be runned by a single person alone [even more truer if such a single is not a Stanford PhD but a former footballer].

On a side line I have no problem to agree with You that my poor country is a very big mess as brightly reflected from the Country's Government downward.... but the supposed single plenipotentiary managing model is a joke for any top Club in the World. Apart from the Swamp maybe, but the last years events seems to enforce my argument even there.

I get the feeling he reads this site to be honest. That was a good article which puts a few things in perspective.

Alioune DVToure wrote:

john@staustell wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:It's a great read & I agree it probably signalled the end of Hughes but it also shows how the bosses have a plan to make the structure of the club run independantly of the manager which is something I've been calling for. if it means sacrificing a manager or two in order to achieve it then so be it. Mancini seems to be happy with it though.

I'd like to see it taken one step further. I'd like us to have a style of play built into the fabric of the club, like Barca do, so players at every age are taught to pass & move & have an attacking tradition just like Barca. Whoever takes on the managers job then has to win stuff in the tradition of the club. Barca have proved it can be done. We can adapt it for our football & be the English version. It sounds as if that model may be the one Marwood is following & that's fantastic. I won't slag him anymore!

Ted this 'style' thing smacks a bit of Arsenal. Lots of style, no trophies. Whilst Barca have an excellent crop of worldy players right now I'm not sure it was always the same nor will it be, it's just all come together. In the past they used the Real model of buying. And a certain team over the road had a very good crop of youngsters in the early 90s and bugger-all since, though some RAG journos still refer to their 'youth system'.

That said if we can avoid another Pearce then great!

I certainly can't see another English/British manager at the club for many years (not that I'm remotely arsed about this).

It didn't just 'come together' it was planned by Johann Cruyff. This run of success is a direct result of Cruyff overhauling the Barca youth system & instilling a method into the training at every level. They play the same at every level & they play the right way at every level so they fit together like clockwork when they reach the 1st team. It is similar to Arsenal but Wenger's signings to augment it are mostly overrated crap wheras Barca's are quality. The manager, Pep Guardiola is even a product of that system & has been promoted from the academy.

Signings are still crucial, even at academy level, but the signings are chosen to fit into the style & when they don't, like Ibrahimovic, they go. We can build a Premier League version. Doesn't have to be identical to Barca, just the principals of pass & move & quality.

MANCIO4EVER wrote:

Alioune DVToure wrote:This is a brilliant article - and surprisingly revealing. It also suggests to me that Marwood's arrival and the job they had earmarked for him was the death knell for Hughes. Italian managers are used to this kind of intrusion from people behind the scenes, whereas British managers like either total control or all their own people in jobs around them.

It's a fascinating read.

I wouldn't talk of "intrusion" - if I may - but teamwork.
What should be spotted is that - even if for us fans football is still a romantic passion - for Clubs' Owners is - since a couple of decades at least -[highlight]a very demanding "Corpotate Investment"[/highlight].
Therefore - being absolutely bright and clear that a trust of brains and different qualifications works better and more efficiently that the very best of the best single person - it is plain that a Company which invests billions of GBPs cannot be runned by a single person alone [even more truer if such a single is not a Stanford PhD but a former footballer].

On a side line I have no problem to agree with You that my poor country is a very big mess as brightly reflected from the Country's Government downward.... but the supposed single plenipotentiary managing model is a joke for any top Club in the World. Apart from the Swamp maybe, but the last years events seems to enforce my argument even there.

Fair enough yeah. When I say "intrusion" I'm thinking of how British managers might see the appointment of such individuals. They tend to be control freaks. With their jobs so unstable, they like to surround themselves with their own people so not to be undermined. The continent is different and Italy in particular, where many characters behind the scenes have a say in a manager's treasured realm: transfer policy. It's the same at Real Madrid, although they seem to have invested a lot more authority in José Mourinho than they ever did in Schuster, for example.

As for the bit I've underlined, fair enough but I never said anything along those lines to either agree or disagree with. Don't want people to start thinking I'm anti-Italian!