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Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:41 pm
by Tru_Blu
I was so happy to finally see Milner sitting the bench. Super Jaw does nothing for us on the left. He does not have a footballers brain and non-thinkers get exposed in a Mancini team. I hope he continues to ride the pine until his game improves, cause i do not believe Mancini plans to play him in the middle. Maybe just as a technical change during a game, but that's it.
Re: Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:56 pm
by saulman
I think Milner would be better suited in one of the midfield three. Possibly when Barry gets injured?
I was surprised to see Jo in the starting line up, and if I'm honest, I was pleasantly surprised. He did well pre-season and showed some signs early on. I would love for him to work his way into our starting 11 on merit. First start in 2 years? Well done Jo.
Re: Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:01 pm
by Tru_Blu
The one thing i notice about Jo after the Evilturn loan is his work rate. I mean he still can't stand up to save his life but again much more effective than no brains super jaw wasting space.
Re: Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:04 pm
by shawzy
I was verY shocked to see Mancini play Jo in the same role as Milner on the left....Jo put a big shift in today..Held the ball and laid it off brilliantly.He did fade abit 2nd half but id like to see him get a 2nd chance and play in the next game.
City were fuckin immense today with that startin 11.
Re: Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:08 pm
by Ted Hughes
I thought Milner was having a spell as our best attacker at the point when Bob took him off v Brum but it's true that the main reason we signed him was because of his midfield performances at Villa, absolutely not for his wing play.
Jo did as he was told today & it helped balance the team but to suggest he was actually good is pushing the limits of imagination imo. Bob must believe that Ade is too indisciplined to do that job, as he's twice the player Jo is. It's a pity he can't prove himself worthy of trust to play that position when needed.
Re: Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:16 pm
by Tru_Blu
Ted Hughes wrote:I thought Milner was having a spell as our best attacker at the point when Bob took him off v Brum but it's true that the main reason we signed him was because of his midfield performances at Villa, absolutely not for his wing play.
Jo did as he was told today & it helped balance the team but to suggest he was actually good is pushing the limits of imagination imo. Bob must believe that Ade is too indisciplined to do that job, as he's twice the player Jo is. It's a pity he can't prove himself worthy of trust to play that position when needed.
I never intended to say Jo is at all a great magician and i would love lack luster Abe to fit in, but he is on the out. I was glad to get the brazil flash(ok sparkle) than the english grit today.
Re: Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:17 pm
by Fesan
Did we see any hints of this in the training reporst either before the international break or on fri/sat? Cannot remember any myself and I usually read them? Or maybe Jo had a spell in the international side vs Argentina?
Would love to see Mancini giving players a shot because of good spells in training and not just on a whim or because others are doing not as good, but nomatter why it seemed to work and he contributed both offensively and defensively so happy for him and hope he can get a few games as he seems like a nice fella'. After all he cost us like 20m so should have some potential:-)
I mean how often have we seen Ade complain about playingtime in the papers this season? Cannot recall Jo talking in the papers, just doing his talking on the field.. respect:-)
(Did not mention RSC talking in the papers because I don't blame him, he's been told he is for sale so..).
Re: Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:41 pm
by bluechester
am i the only one, who has been disappointed with milner since he as joined us
Re: Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:50 pm
by ryanmjo
bluechester wrote:am i the only one, who has been disappointed with milner since he as joined us
Certainly not.
Re: Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:54 pm
by Sister of fu
I'm I the only one that feels very sorry for Milner. He is a box to box CM and iv only ever seen him on the left and then the right. I think the critisim aimed at him is a tad harsh as last season at Villa he was one of the best in the prem in that postion. Hopefully he will get his chance in the middle and show us all what he can do.
Re: Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:54 pm
by shawzy
Ted Hughes wrote:I thought Milner was having a spell as our best attacker at the point when Bob took him off v Brum but it's true that the main reason we signed him was because of his midfield performances at Villa, absolutely not for his wing play.
Jo did as he was told today & it helped balance the team but to suggest he was actually good is pushing the limits of imagination imo. Bob must believe that Ade is too indisciplined to do that job, as he's twice the player Jo is. It's a pity he can't prove himself worthy of trust to play that position when needed.
So you say he balanced the team but your still sayin he wasnt good? He put a shift in didnt he? Bloody daft comment..Im all for Jo bein in the 1st team next game..Mancini got it right today with that 1st 11.
Re: Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:58 pm
by colonel_muck
i was worried about signing milner, because there was a good chance that last season he was the previous season's stephen ireland. and it certainly looks that way. i feel sorry for him because he played right accross the whole midfield sensationally at villa, but he just seems so nervous on the ball, he has no confidence and unfortunately for him sitting on the bench isn't going to get it back. but i do believe mancini has given him a fair amount of time to settle in, he's been poor for a while now.
Re: Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:00 pm
by Ted Hughes
shawzy wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:I thought Milner was having a spell as our best attacker at the point when Bob took him off v Brum but it's true that the main reason we signed him was because of his midfield performances at Villa, absolutely not for his wing play.
Jo did as he was told today & it helped balance the team but to suggest he was actually good is pushing the limits of imagination imo. Bob must believe that Ade is too indisciplined to do that job, as he's twice the player Jo is. It's a pity he can't prove himself worthy of trust to play that position when needed.
So you say he balanced the team but your still sayin he wasnt good? He put a shift in didnt he? Bloody daft comment..Im all for Jo bein in the 1st team next game..Mancini got it right today with that 1st 11.
I don't think he did anything any other attacker in the squad couldn't have done but he kapt his discipline positionally & I think the fact that he's technically a striker was clever psychology from Bob to give the team a more positive mentality. Good though? Nah sorry can't agree. He did ok in some parts & gave away the ball badly in others.
Re: Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:03 pm
by Pretty Boy Lee
His 1st touch wasa lot btter as was his hold up play.
He doesn't look like beating a man or playing a killer ball, which might just be confidence right now, or it could be lack of ability. Time will tell.
Re: Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:47 pm
by Spurge
Sister of fu wrote:I'm I the only one that feels very sorry for Milner. He is a box to box CM and iv only ever seen him on the left and then the right. I think the critisim aimed at him is a tad harsh as last season at Villa he was one of the best in the prem in that postion. Hopefully he will get his chance in the middle and show us all what he can do.
Milners best game for City to date was his debut - he's found it tough since, but I agree his best position in central midfield and as suggested already on this thread, I'm sure at some stage his time will come as a result of an injury or suspension.
Re: Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:01 pm
by Sister of fu
Spurge wrote:Sister of fu wrote:I'm I the only one that feels very sorry for Milner. He is a box to box CM and iv only ever seen him on the left and then the right. I think the critisim aimed at him is a tad harsh as last season at Villa he was one of the best in the prem in that postion. Hopefully he will get his chance in the middle and show us all what he can do.
Milners best game for
City to date was his debut - he's found it tough since, but I agree his best position in central midfield and as suggested already on this thread, I'm sure at some stage his time will come as a result of an injury or suspension.
Well let's hope that he don't go the same way as a certain Steve Mcmaaaannnnnammm who i also recall having a great debut then not doing much else, well apart from point a lot.
Re: Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:10 pm
by shawzy
Ted Hughes wrote:shawzy wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:I thought Milner was having a spell as our best attacker at the point when Bob took him off v Brum but it's true that the main reason we signed him was because of his midfield performances at Villa, absolutely not for his wing play.
Jo did as he was told today & it helped balance the team but to suggest he was actually good is pushing the limits of imagination imo. Bob must believe that Ade is too indisciplined to do that job, as he's twice the player Jo is. It's a pity he can't prove himself worthy of trust to play that position when needed.
So you say he balanced the team but your still sayin he wasnt good? He put a shift in didnt he? Bloody daft comment..Im all for Jo bein in the 1st team next game..Mancini got it right today with that 1st 11.
I don't think he did anything any other attacker in the squad couldn't have done but he kapt his discipline positionally & I think the fact that he's technically a striker was clever psychology from Bob to give the team a more positive mentality. Good though? Nah sorry can't agree. He did ok in some parts & gave away the ball badly in others.
Iv not seen anyone on the left wing this season that has played better so thats maybe why he he has stood out....Fookin chuffed with the blues today m8..Best performance of the season from all.
Re: Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:25 pm
by Ted Hughes
shawzy wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:shawzy wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:I thought Milner was having a spell as our best attacker at the point when Bob took him off v Brum but it's true that the main reason we signed him was because of his midfield performances at Villa, absolutely not for his wing play.
Jo did as he was told today & it helped balance the team but to suggest he was actually good is pushing the limits of imagination imo. Bob must believe that Ade is too indisciplined to do that job, as he's twice the player Jo is. It's a pity he can't prove himself worthy of trust to play that position when needed.
So you say he balanced the team but your still sayin he wasnt good? He put a shift in didnt he? Bloody daft comment..Im all for Jo bein in the 1st team next game..Mancini got it right today with that 1st 11.
I don't think he did anything any other attacker in the squad couldn't have done but he kapt his discipline positionally & I think the fact that he's technically a striker was clever psychology from Bob to give the team a more positive mentality. Good though? Nah sorry can't agree. He did ok in some parts & gave away the ball badly in others.
Iv not seen anyone on the left wing this season that has played better so thats maybe why he he has stood out....Fookin chuffed with the blues today m8..Best performance of the season from all.
Best away performance since Sven's Munich day silencer imo. Chelsea 2nd half was good but we should have been 4 down by half time. Fantastic 1st half today.
Re: Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:28 pm
by Burt
Jo is not devoid of ability. Gollum wouldn't have taken him loan if he was. Likewise the Rusky team that he played for. How old is he 22? This is the type of player that top managers mould and encourage into being good team players. There's a lotta shite been chucked his way and some of it justified but I've not seen him mouthing anything off to the press the last couple of years. Let's give him a chance and back him eh. We've got nowt to lose.
Re: Jo for Milner

Posted:
Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:11 pm
by Dameerto
jo was heavily involved in at least one of the goals, he was doing a useful job as a target when needed too (some flick ons and held it up decently) - he was also useful defensively at set pieces.