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Ancellotti off?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:11 am
by john@staustell
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 40449.html

Carlo Ancelotti was last night understood to be considering his future as Chelsea manager after his rift widened with the club's hierarchy over the weekend.

Ancelotti's relationship with the club and owner Roman Abramovich has deteriorated in the last two weeks and Saturday's 1-0 defeat at Birmingham – their third in four Premier League games – prompted the Italian to state publicly for the first time that his power at the club is severely limited.

Ancelotti's future was the talk of the League Managers' Association dinner in London last night and there was expected to be some kind of clarification about his future this morning. A Chelsea spokesman dismissed the story that Ancelotti was about to walk away and as it stands he is still due to give a press conference today to preview tomorrow's Champions League game against MSK Zilina.

Key to his decision has been the treatment of Ray Wilkins, his erstwhile assistant who has been forced to take legal action through the LMA in order to get compensation following his dismissal. Despite having won the Premier League and FA Cup Double in his first season at Stamford Bridge, Ancelotti has been undermined by the sacking of Wilkins this month and the appointment of the relatively unknown Michael Emenalo in his place.

Asked on Saturday at St Andrew's about his position at the club, Ancelotti made no secret of the fact that he does not wield as much power as some of his peers in the Premier League.

"It is a different position to Ferguson because he has total control of the team," he said, referring to Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United. "I have just the technical direction, full stop, okay."

Asked if he was prepared to put up with the problems he was encountering, Ancelotti replied: "Yes, I am. This is the life of the coach. This is a difficult moment but I think we are capable of moving on. It's true we didn't play well against Sunderland but here we played very well. Everyone who saw the game can say this. When the team don't win there is more responsibility on the coach, but this is normal. This is my job. I don't have a problem."

Should Ancelotti come to an agreement with Abramovich that would allow him to leave it would mean that the club had no obvious alternative to turn to as a caretaker manager. They would be looking for their fifth manager since Jose Mourinho departed in September 2007, with all bar Guus Hiddink who only signed a short-term contract having fallen foul of the Chelsea owner.

Bookmakers last night stopped taking bets on Ancelotti becoming the next Premier League manager to lose his job. In spite of all his success in his debut season with Chelsea, Abramovich's dissatisfaction with him relates to the manner in which his side were eliminated by Mourinho's Internazionale from the Champions League.

The situation has become critical enough for those close to the italian to anticipate that he will have to make a decision on his future either way this morning

Re: Ancellotti off?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:19 am
by DoomMerchant
Well...KK called it.

cheers

Re: Ancellotti off?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:15 am
by Manx Blue
DoomMerchant wrote:Well...KK called it.

cheers


I download the SS podcast for something to listen to at work on a Monday, although I started listening to it last night. They raised this at the beginning of the show. Apparently, Abramovich plays a hand on role at the Bridge, and Ancellotti was lucky to keep his job after exiting to Inter in the Champions league, when RA went berserk!

There has then been the Wilkins situation over the last few weeks, and the fact that Chelsea only have 17 senior outfield players in their squad, with five kids and three keepers. With the injuries they have recently had, they can't really cope due to the numbers.

All in all, they reckon Ancellotti will be gone at the end of the season, and if he stays that long, he will go of his own volition.

I feel sorry for the fella and Wilkins. They'd done a cracking job in the main this season, but interference by the owner has obviously seen a change in fortune. In addition, apparently the new #2 doesn't have anything to do with the actual coaching of the team, and was RA's choice.

I guess it will keep us off the back pages, with speculation about Mancini's position, what Tevez or Johnson are doing, or indeed, news about £200,000 per week YaYa Toure, for a day or two at least!

Re: Ancellotti off?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:25 am
by DoomMerchant
Manx Blue wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:Well...KK called it.

cheers


I download the SS podcast for something to listen to at work on a Monday, although I started listening to it last night. They raised this at the beginning of the show. Apparently, Abramovich plays a hand on role at the Bridge, and Ancellotti was lucky to keep his job after exiting to Inter in the Champions league, when RA went berserk!

There has then been the Wilkins situation over the last few weeks, and the fact that Chelsea only have 17 senior outfield players in their squad, with five kids and three keepers. With the injuries they have recently had, they can't really cope due to the numbers.

All in all, they reckon Ancellotti will be gone at the end of the season, and if he stays that long, he will go of his own volition.

I feel sorry for the fella and Wilkins. They'd done a cracking job in the main this season, but interference by the owner has obviously seen a change in fortune. In addition, apparently the new #2 doesn't have anything to do with the actual coaching of the team, and was RA's choice.

I guess it will keep us off the back pages, with speculation about Mancini's position, what Tevez or Johnson are doing, or indeed, news about £200,000 per week YaYa Toure, for a day or two at least!


as i referenced, our own KK called it...Anchovi should be fired. End of.

cheers

Re: Ancellotti off?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:00 am
by Manx Blue
DoomMerchant wrote:
Manx Blue wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:Well...KK called it.

cheers


I download the SS podcast for something to listen to at work on a Monday, although I started listening to it last night. They raised this at the beginning of the show. Apparently, Abramovich plays a hand on role at the Bridge, and Ancellotti was lucky to keep his job after exiting to Inter in the Champions league, when RA went berserk!

There has then been the Wilkins situation over the last few weeks, and the fact that Chelsea only have 17 senior outfield players in their squad, with five kids and three keepers. With the injuries they have recently had, they can't really cope due to the numbers.

All in all, they reckon Ancellotti will be gone at the end of the season, and if he stays that long, he will go of his own volition.

I feel sorry for the fella and Wilkins. They'd done a cracking job in the main this season, but interference by the owner has obviously seen a change in fortune. In addition, apparently the new #2 doesn't have anything to do with the actual coaching of the team, and was RA's choice.

I guess it will keep us off the back pages, with speculation about Mancini's position, what Tevez or Johnson are doing, or indeed, news about £200,000 per week YaYa Toure, for a day or two at least!


as i referenced, our own KK called it...Anchovi should be fired. End of.

cheers


I had heard you'd refernced it from somewhere ;)

Re: Ancellotti off?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:14 am
by colonel_muck
the media is absolutely amazing. city have won by playing well, so they've picked on someone else. it just goes round and round. i don't think the media are out to 'get' us like a lot of people on here, but these last few weeks they haven't half hammered city. i remember hughes saying everybody gets their turn when he was our manager, and he's right. ancelotti leaving? no way. chelsea will bounce back and twat someone next week and they'll go on to liverpool or arsenal.

Re: Ancellotti off?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:25 am
by CityFanFromRome
If Abramovich is interfering with his way of running the club, I can see Ancelotti going before the end of the season. Although, he shouldn't be too new to this after spending years at Milan under Berlusconi, it's common view here in Italy that the Milan chairman has a big influence in the way his manager sends the team out, often criticizing him if the setup is not attacking enough. Ancelotti was subject to these critics from his employer when he played with the 4-3-2-1 setup as Berlusconi wanted two strikers on the pitch. This however seems to be a more important kind of interference, even coming to sack his no. 2.

It's a clear message that Abramovich wants Ancelotti out of the club, and Ancelotti won't wait too much to act on it if Roman doesn't step off the gas on this. I really can't get my head around the way of thinking of these owners, here in Italy we have a couple of them too, who sack managers on a whim, even when the manager has been successful at the club (winning the double in his first season is no easy feat). I mean, ok, he was thrown out of the CL relatively early but that was against the team which then went to win the competition, not against a nobody team; it seems, however, that Abramovich has developed a real obsession with the CL...

Oh well, this will make happy the Roma fans who want Ancelotti in Ranieri's place...

Re: Ancellotti off?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:55 am
by Ted Hughes
colonel_muck wrote:the media is absolutely amazing. city have won by playing well, so they've picked on someone else. it just goes round and round. i don't think the media are out to 'get' us like a lot of people on here, but these last few weeks they haven't half hammered city. i remember hughes saying everybody gets their turn when he was our manager, and he's right. ancelotti leaving? no way. chelsea will bounce back and twat someone next week and they'll go on to liverpool or arsenal.


Whilst simultaneously finding something they can use to have a got at City. Sure every one else gets a turn but it's still our turn whilst that happens, always.

Bob & Ancelotti are good mates & I don't think it's coincidence that Bob has suddenly started talking about going for the title in almost every interview. Whether Ancelotti stays or leaves; things are not runnibg smoothly at Chelsea & our people know it. The meeting in Abu Dhabi has also come at this juncture so I imagine it's been mentioned & if things go well, it's not impossible we could see a big signing or two in Jan in order to try & get the title a year early.

Re: Ancellotti off?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:27 am
by Blue Since 76
This could be good news. We just need to make sure we're there to capatalise, before the rags do.

Repeat of yesterday for the rest of the season, please Bob.