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Now that Tevez has put in his transfer request and the club has denied it: What are the club and Tevez's options .....
both for the time being and immediate future?? How will this play out?? Let's keep it too the facts and do some deductive
reasoning.

We keep him till the summer, if nothing changes someone will come for him (Inter or Real, likely) and we get a bucketload of money (not that we need it); we then buy another top striker in Torres or Dzeko, or possibly Ibrahimovic. We could sign add a young, promising striker to him, like Lukaku, and develop him into the next big thing, and Balotelli too.

The main question it seems then is can we play well with him sitting on the bench???

This all has record transfer written all over it we'll panic buy a striker

jono1978 wrote:This all has record transfer written all over it we'll panic buy a striker

I hope so. It would be in keeping with City tradition.

The transfer request has been rejected so Tevez comes back next week and plays as normal. The club are still paying his wages and he has a job to do.

If it gets to the summer and he is still unhappy then we can look at the situation as it gives plenty of time to get in a suitable replacement.

We're not the first club this has happened to and we won't be the last. United had this with Rooney only a month or so ago, Arsenal continually seem to have this issue with Fabregas, Liverpool had it with Gerrard, yet those players still continue to do their job. I wouldn't expect anything less from Tevez, and if he's out on the pitch, I believe he'll still put the effort in.

The club need to manage the situation carefully though. It wouldn't surprise me if they agree with Tevez to stay until the end of the season at least and then review from there.

CityFanFromRome wrote:We keep him till the summer, if nothing changes someone will come for him (Inter or Real, likely) and we get a bucketload of money (not that we need it); we then buy another top striker in Torres or Dzeko, or possibly Ibrahimovic. We could sign add a young, promising striker to him, like Lukaku, and develop him into the next big thing, and Balotelli too.

Torres- requires a drastic change to our system and there re fitness question marks..

Dzecko- The ultimate gamble.. I'm inclined to believe that if Arsen thought better of it, then maybe so should we.

Ibrah- No chance and would faill akin to Corradiesque proportions

Lukaku- This aint FM2011 (if it was I'd recommended Cavani)

It pains me to say this but I hope City play hardball here and if Tevez does not continue to work hard then I hope we get rid off him.

give him a t-shirt saying 'For sale £60m' and tell him to show tgat one off every time he scores.

First club to put up the cash and he can fuck right off.

Still, at least I can sing my favourite song again. Altogether now, a one, two, three "his neck scar proves he's lost his head..."

aaron bond wrote:The transfer request has been rejected so Tevez comes back next week and plays as normal. The club are still paying his wages and he has a job to do.

If it gets to the summer and he is still unhappy then we can look at the situation as it gives plenty of time to get in a suitable replacement.

We're not the first club this has happened to and we won't be the last. United had this with Rooney only a month or so ago, Arsenal continually seem to have this issue with Fabregas, Liverpool had it with Gerrard, yet those players still continue to do their job. I wouldn't expect anything less from Tevez, and if he's out on the pitch, I believe he'll still put the effort in.

The club need to manage the situation carefully though. It wouldn't surprise me if they agree with Tevez to stay until the end of the season at least and then review from there.

quality post pal. however i hope that this isn't some long game for tevez to get even more money. we are one of the few clubs in the world that don't have hang on to their best players like the ones above you have mentioned. if the club gives tevez a huge wage rise to keep him what is that going to say to the other players. if he wants more money, i hope the club stays put for the sake of the future. i would rather see him gone than get a pay rise, otherwise we're going to here the same story with different players for the next 5 years or so, and i can't be bothered with that!

Michael Brookes wrote:

CityFanFromRome wrote:We keep him till the summer, if nothing changes someone will come for him (Inter or Real, likely) and we get a bucketload of money (not that we need it); we then buy another top striker in Torres or Dzeko, or possibly Ibrahimovic. We could sign add a young, promising striker to him, like Lukaku, and develop him into the next big thing, and Balotelli too.

Torres- requires a drastic change to our system and there re fitness question marks..

Dzecko- The ultimate gamble.. I'm inclined to believe that if Arsen thought better of it, then maybe so should we.

Ibrah- No chance and would faill akin to Corradiesque proportions

Lukaku- This aint FM2011 (if it was I'd recommended Cavani)

I agree on Dzeko, I rate him but he's a gamble lall right. Torres' fitness is a problem, true, but I don't agree he would require us to completely change our system. Ibra...he's worked well with Mancini before, so I wouldn't rule out our manager going for him if Tevez left. He would be a big gamble in the Premier though, just like Dzeko.

Lukaku...if I'm not mistaken Real have been sniffing around him too, so while this is not FM11 they must have seen something in him to make them interested. He's rumoured to be the next big thing all over Europe, there must be a reason for that. As for Cavani...he bangs them in for fun in Serie A, he may not be Tevez but he would do a decent job for us I think.

I'm not totally convinced that the Rooney saga is over?

Given that United confirmed on the day of Rooney's announcement that no contract negotiations had taken place and no contract had been offered, I still find it hard to believe that probably the biggest contract in world football, it was too big to be prepared, negotiated, agreed and signed in 24 hours,

I still think there is a deal for him to keep quiet till summer to appease the fans.

That would solve the problem

johnpb78 wrote:I'm not totally convinced that the Rooney saga is over? That contract was too big to be prepared, negotiated, agreed and signed in 24 hours.

I still think there is a deal for him to keep quiet till summer to appease the fans.

That would solve the problem

lol how is that going to appease their fans? that'll make things even worse if it happens in the summer and i doubt ferguson is that stupid. rooney's staying put. thank god.

CitizenYank wrote:The main question it seems then is can we play well with him sitting on the bench???

I think we can and we proved it yesterday against W'ham. Maybe play well is not the right question, it should be can we win matches and the answer is yes.
We have players coming through now after settling in like Yaya and Silva who can run matches and create chances for our strikers and also score themselves. All we need now is some consistancy from Mario and also maybe Ade will now have a change of heart if he sees his chances of starting improving dramatically.
We have goals scorers in Yaya, AJ, Mario and Silva and if it comes to that I don't think we will miss Tevez too much. Even Zabba has started banging them in !
Mind you if this was last season, then my answer would've been completely different.

colonel_muck wrote:

johnpb78 wrote:I'm not totally convinced that the Rooney saga is over? That contract was too big to be prepared, negotiated, agreed and signed in 24 hours.

I still think there is a deal for him to keep quiet till summer to appease the fans.

That would solve the problem

lol how is that going to appease their fans? that'll make things even worse if it happens in the summer and i doubt ferguson is that stupid. rooney's staying put. thank god.

In case you didn't notice, the fans were going fucking mental, remember the gang of muppets in black turning up at his house. Had United allowed the speculation to drag on it would have completely de-stablised the club, the fans backlash against the Glazers would have got very nasty. Instead, this "agreement" has temporarily shifted the heat from the glazers to Rooney, and appeased the fans that the Glazers have the ability to pay the big bucks - but it all stunk of a stitch up. Mega-deals don't get agreed in 24 hours.

At least if he went in the summer United could pull a couple of signings out of the bag like maybe Benzema to appease the fans. In late October with 2 months to the transfer window, there was fuck all United could have done to appease the fans other than make a quick announcement that Rooney was staying.

They have form for this with Ronaldo, remember "Wouldn't sell that lot a virus", even though a deal had already been agreed for him to leave 12 months later.

If the Sheik caves into Tevez's AGENTS demands, it will be worse as if they pretended it didn't exist. The have got to take a hard line.

How about daub the new club shop window with "fucl off back to Argentina you mercenary twat" ;)

But on a serious note how long before some reptile hack starts showing copies of the City mag with "cnut" or something similar written over the cover!

I do not expect any caving in from City on Tevez.In fact I can't see in what way they could cave in because it isn't as if it is all about more money and there isn't any one else out there who would pay more.

There will be more talking especially with Tevez and Mancini to hopefully sort out whatever the problems are between the 2 of them and hopefully they can smooth it over and get on at least till the end of the season.We might well end up with a situation like the scum had with tranny where he plays and commits till the end of the season but there is an agreement that he goes for next year. Where he goes who knows.

Alan

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:I do not expect any caving in from City on Tevez.In fact I can't see in what way they could cave in because it isn't as if it is all about more money and there isn't any one else out there who would pay more.

There will be more talking especially with Tevez and Mancini to hopefully sort out whatever the problems are between the 2 of them and hopefully they can smooth it over and get on at least till the end of the season.We might well end up with a situation like the scum had with tranny where he plays and commits till the end of the season but there is an agreement that he goes for next year. Where he goes who knows.

I would think exactly this. In terms of playing Tevez will do the professional thing he has shown that already elsewhere. Meantime both the club, manager and Carlos can work out what the real problems are.

There is definitely something that doesn't quiet meet the eye behind this. City have come out fighting by emphasising a disappointment with the agent. i think it yet has to be 'found out' what Tevez wants exactly. We saw recently with Rooneygate a fucled up way of going about business.. we have yet to find out what this is all about and the focus will now go directly onto Tevez to explain himself.

One take that is a reading between the lines, is that Mancini has identified that we both should not be reliant on Tevez and also that his style does cramp others. If Tevez has gotten a sense of this and that the longer term role for him will be reduced or tempered and his dealings with Mancini have confirmed this, then this could a kind of pre-emptive strike by Tevez.
There is no doubt at all that Tevez is very single minded, his style of play shows that very clearly, and while brilliant we have all seen that it can also lead to bad decisions and wanting everything for himself.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is a kind of knee jerk by him that his agent has amplified and given a bit of time he may well re-assess it.

We were always likely to try and bring in two strikers anyway, so we should just see what sort of quality they are and take it from there.