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According to Arsene Whinger the only way we will get an idea of who are the true champions is if all clubs worked on the same budget.

"The real, real true test would be to give 100 million pounds to all the 20 clubs in the Premier League and say 'let's go'," Wenger, who last won a trophy in 2005, told reporters on Tuesday as third-placed Arsenal prepare to host second-placed Man City on Wednesday.

"That is the real test. Then you can say at the end of the year, the best club has won. The real, real test would be that everybody has exactly the same resources.

"The budget of a club is all that is involved - commercial, television, player transfers and gates.

"As long as that does not happen, it is a test of who corresponds most to the potential of each club."

"What is fantastic in football is there is no given formula," Wenger said of City's free-spending since they fell into the hands of Abu Dhabi owners.

"I personally am a big fan of the way we do it, so I try to be successful with the way we do it. You can also do it the way Inter do, or Manchester City do, they buy the best players in the world, and it works as well.

"What I want to show is it works our way as well."

"It does not annoy me (the other way) as long as they respect the rules,"

"At the moment, the rules are like that and they respect them, so you cannot fault them. It is supposed to change, then we will see."

I love the fact that he claims to prefer the way Arsenal do things... but they have won fucl all in the last 6 years!

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What he doesn't take into consideration is that not every club is in the same starting condition; if you gave 100M to Arsenal and 100M to, say, West Ham, it wouldn't be equal, because West Ham starts behind as far as quality of players goes, and they wouldn't be able to close the gap; so the race would still be unbalanced.

CityFanFromRome wrote:What he doesn't take into consideration is that not every club is in the same starting condition; if you gave 100M to Arsenal and 100M to, say, West Ham, it wouldn't be equal, because West Ham starts behind as far as quality of players goes, and they wouldn't be able to close the gap; so the race would still be unbalanced.

And all clubs would have to have equally large and modern stadia, charging the exact same amount for tickets, pies and merchandise. They should also, preferably, all be situated in identical cities and be targeting the same demographical groups.

I.E. Wegner is talking out of his arse ... again.

Close the league down,start with your under 8's and lets build from there.

Obviously with 100 million each.

CityFanFromRome wrote:What he doesn't take into consideration is that not every club is in the same starting condition; if you gave 100M to Arsenal and 100M to, say, West Ham, it wouldn't be equal, because West Ham starts behind as far as quality of players goes, and they wouldn't be able to close the gap; so the race would still be unbalanced.

And this is what most choose to ignore with the City situation. People compared us to Chelsea but they had a far better squad and had actually a team winning and challenging for trophys where we were a bit shit and a middle of the prem team. We had to spend so much so soon to get on a somewhat even keel but people will turn a blind eye to that fact.

I they want to compete on an even footing, why did they build a 60,000-seater stadium? And then sell the name of it to the highest bidder?

Tokyo Blue wrote:I they want to compete on an even footing, why did they build a 60,000-seater stadium? And then sell the name of it to the highest bidder?

This.

Arsenal went millions in debt in order to build a stadium with more corporate seats than an Emirates Airline fleet, to increase their revenue, and yet they now want us all on an equal footing. The hypocrisy is so rife its unreal.

They should means test every club in relation to their 25 man squad and then even things out amongst the have nots, with the richer clubs giving to the poor. A sort of socialist football system. Then, when the Arseman sees he's actually very well off he should shut the fuck up whinging.

Seriously, the fact of the matter is that Arsene Wenger has a philosophy on how to run a football club. Unfortunately for him, he chose to manage in the Premier League which appears to be poles apart from his own stance on finance and development. The simple fact remains that the more money you have at your disposal, the more successful you will be. He chooses not to spend and is therefore less successful than those that do.
The trouble for him now is that there are four clubs who are all spending more than Arsenal which means there's a credible threat that they could finish outside the top four. If that were to happen then he would fully understand just how privilidged Arsenal have actually been to have Champions League money every season whilst the rest of the league does without. If this were to happen then he may come to fully understand what it's like to be a 'have not' club and know exactly where the unfairness in our football league really lies, though I'm sure he already knows this but chooses not to say.

If he wants it on an even keel, then starting now, every team that played in the Champion's League since it became possible for others than just the Champions to qualify, should go for 13 years with no income from said tournament, whilst every other team in the Premier league is given the average amount made by those teams, each year, for the next thirteen years.

At the end of that period, his plan for each club having the same amount of income per year, can come into place & will be fair.

Yes, give them £100M each, make every player a bosman, oh yeah and make raping other club's academies illegal. Then we'll see how 'his way' works.

It seems to be becoming normal for every opposition manager to give 'his take' on our way of doing things just prior to playing us.

I'm going to take it as a compliment to save meself the trouble of getting annoyed.

I didn't hear him saying such things when we were scrounging a living down at the bottom of the league!

imo the only way you could get to a level playing field is to have a wage cap. This would have to be implemented right across the world though as you would just see all our talent moving abroad and the Prem would become drastically shite. Eventually you would end up with mostly English/British players at most clubs as it wouldn't be worth foreign players moving across Europe to ply their trade for the same money as their counterparts in England.

Not a chance of it ever happening though.

Beefymcfc wrote:I didn't hear him saying such things when we were scrounging a living down at the bottom of the league!

or when he was paying millions for a 17 year old called theo walcott...

the guy's a plank.

Sounds like he's trying to be even handed and philosophical about it. I like Arsene Wenger most of the time.

Trouble is his opinion's are so skewed by his Arsenal bias. Part of the winning mentality you have to adopt as part of a club I suppose.

Therefore what he says sometimes, is utter bollocks. At least he's not just a disgusting lying cheating hypocrite like that Govan soak, over at The Death Star.

Imo Arsene Wenger puts out sides that play fantastic attacking football who can turn over any team in the world on their day.

Also imo, the only reason he ever won a single title at Arsenal was because George Graham & Don Howe spent years building the best defense in the country & he reaped the rewards of their work, building an attack on top of it. Now the effects of that have worn off & we're left with his defence, he hasn't got a fucking clue what to do about it, so imo, needs to sign ready made top defenders.

Therefore, I very much doubt he'll solve it without spending plenty of filthy money, so even in the unlikely event they win the league, it'll be short lived & they'll be back to the drawing board until he either changes his tune & spends big or fucks off.

Slim wrote:make raping other club's academies illegal.

Amazes me how often this gets swept under the carpet.