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Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:47 pm
by Redna
Got to be Bristol. A core city with a very poor football history. Such a big city and such a bad football landscape. Is there any worse around?

Re: Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:51 pm
by Mikhail Chigorin
Liverpool, without a doubt.

Re: Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:55 pm
by BlueinBosnia
Coventry, Hull, Bristol or Reading would be my pick, depending on how you define a city/urban area, how you weigh history up against the present (and also quantify 'success' for that matter), and the influence of geography and social demographics upon the cities' football.

Re: Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:55 pm
by john68
Plymouth...Big City....No serious rivals in the whole of Devon, Cornwall or Somerset....How shite is that?

Re: Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:00 pm
by BlueinBosnia
john68 wrote:Plymouth...Big City....No serious rivals in the whole of Devon, Cornwall or Somerset....How shite is that?


Exeter's nearby. Also, Plymouth's population has historically been largely reliant on the navy, and naval recruits, meaning a high population turnover. Other coastal towns involved in shipping with historically strong football teams had a stable (fixed) population, employed in industries such as shipbuilding.

Re: Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:06 pm
by john68
BlueinBosnia wrote:
john68 wrote:Plymouth...Big City....No serious rivals in the whole of Devon, Cornwall or Somerset....How shite is that?


Exeter's nearby. Also, Plymouth's population has historically been largely reliant on the navy, and naval recruits, meaning a high population turnover. Other coastal towns involved in shipping with historically strong football teams had a stable (fixed) population, employed in industries such as shipbuilding.


You can hardly count Exeter...or even Torquay as serious rivals. No clubs in Cornwall nor Somerset. Massive area and population to target...Nearest clubs are Bristol City and Rover...(serious rivals???).
Large numbers of matelots come from football hotbeds. Also Plymouth has a large native population of its own.
Go check yer new sat nag...(and Carl's right)....:-)

Re: Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:15 pm
by PoC
um truro would get my vote

Re: Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:17 pm
by Redna
Southwest it is then. Bristol is more populated than Plymouth though. Are all the south westerns rag arm chairs ?
I mean Bristol C attracts 20 k if they're going well and 10 k if normal servece. Rovers can't get 8k. Must be worst.

Re: Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:29 pm
by craigmcfc
York?

Re: Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:33 pm
by mr_nool
craigmcfc wrote:York?


Good shout! Bradford is also worthy a mention.

Re: Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:34 pm
by john68
craigmcfc wrote:York?


HALIFAX

Re: Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:35 pm
by craigmcfc
mr_nool wrote:
craigmcfc wrote:York?


Good shout! Bradford is also worthy a mention.


I had the thought whilst xmas shopping there a month ago

Re: Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:35 pm
by craigmcfc
john68 wrote:
craigmcfc wrote:York?


HALIFAX


It's not a City you plonker

Re: Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:36 pm
by john68
craigmcfc wrote:
john68 wrote:
craigmcfc wrote:York?


HALIFAX


It's not a City you plonker


Just sayin like...

Re: Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:40 pm
by mr_nool
craigmcfc wrote:
mr_nool wrote:
craigmcfc wrote:York?


Good shout! Bradford is also worthy a mention.


I had the thought whilst xmas shopping there a month ago


Oxford is about the same size as York and equally shit.

Re: Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:40 pm
by craigmcfc
john68 wrote:
craigmcfc wrote:
john68 wrote:
craigmcfc wrote:York?


HALIFAX


It's not a City you plonker


Just sayin like...


Still top. Comfortably

Blimey, when was the last time City and Halifax were top of their respective leagues?

Come on John, you'll remember?

Re: Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:47 pm
by Redna
I'm in to Bristol as that was the ONLY city ever mentioened in our text books when we were learning english back in the 70's.(apart from LONDON that is).
"Peter lives in Bristol. He can see the harbour with his binoculars from his flat. Peter has a brother etc etc.
NOT a word about Manc not a word. Cheers m8s
CTID!!
PS Bradford is quiet big isn't it? DS
Bigger than Lids ?

Re: Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:06 pm
by JonnyAsh
Salford?

Re: Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:19 pm
by Wonderwall
Redna wrote:Got to be Bristol. A core city with a very poor football history. Such a big city and such a bad football landscape. Is there any worse around?



I am with you here Redna, worked in Bristol for quite some time and its a huge place and both teams are rubbish

Re: Worst City in England for Football considering size

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:28 pm
by Patrick
City Population
London 7.2 Million
Birmingham 992000
Leeds 720000
Glasgow 560000
Sheffield 512000
Bradford 467000
Edinburgh 450000
Liverpool 440000
Manchester 420000
Bristol 380000
Wakefield 316000
Cardiff 310000
Coventry 305000
Nottingham 285000
Leicester 280000
Sunderland 280000
Belfast 280000
Newcastle upon Tyne 259000
Brighton 248000
Hull 240000
Plymouth 240000
Stoke-on-Trent 239000
Wolverhampton 239000
Derby 230000
Swansea 225000
Southampton 220000
Salford 215000
Aberdeen 215000
Westminster 190000
Portsmouth 186000
York 182000
Peterborough 157000
Dundee 145000
Lancaster 135000
Oxford 135000
Newport 135000
Preston 130000
St Albans 130000
Norwich 125000
Chester 118000
Cambridge 115000
Salisbury 115000
Exeter 111000
Gloucester 110000
Lisburn 110000
Chichester 108000
Winchester 108000
Londonderry 105000
Carlisle 101000
Worcester 93000
Bath 90000
Durham 87000
Lincoln 86000
Hereford 55000
Armagh 55000
Inverness 51000
Stirling 45000
Canterbury 42500
Lichfield 30000
Newry 30000
Ripon 24500
Bangor 20000
Truro 19000
Ely 14000
Wells 10000
St Davids 2000