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Both arse and the scum are ahead of us now with games in hand.

I think this should relieve some of the pressure that has been built up around us and let us get on with playing football and finish 3rd maybe 2nd. Anyone who says this is under achieving is a tool. We all started the season looking to finish in the top 4 and thats what we will do. We all know it takes time and CL qualification is a big step.

Completely opposite opinion to the other thread.

ashton287 wrote:Both arse and the scum are ahead of us now with games in hand.

I think this should relieve some of the pressure that has been built up around us and let us get on with playing football and finish 3rd maybe 2nd. Anyone who says this is under achieving is a tool. We all started the season looking to finish in the top 4 and thats what we will do. We all know it takes time and CL qualification is a big step.

Completely opposite opinion to the other thread.

Agree entirely, I think people expecting us to challenge for the title, were maybe overly positive, if at the start of the season we were offered 4th we all would have taken it, and I still will today, 4th is the priority for me.

It's a good point. The target for the season is suddenly being reported as being to win the league when, in reality, it is to finish in the top 4.

Maybe now we have slipped all the way down to 3rd the media will concentrate on somebody else and some of the pressure will be lifted off us.

King Kev wrote:It's a good point. The target for the season is suddenly being reported as being to win the league when, in reality, it is to finish in the top 4.

Maybe now we have slipped all the way down to 3rd the media will concentrate on somebody else and some of the pressure will be lifted off us.

The last few weeks I have had to listen to ignorant rags making out like for example we HAD to win the Arsenal game and that it was a disgrace how we played, yet they of course played the same vs Spuds but it is somehow different as they are so far in front.

They appear to be the only ones making an issue of city's title bid, and seem completely unable to comprehend that in most city fans view, it would be "nice" if we could challenge for the title, and "fantastic" if we could win it, but that with the pace of our evolution, it also was not the be all and end all of our season.

Then of course comes all the crap "but with the money you've spent do you not think you should be aiming for the title" - and they go fucking mad when I say, yes, next season.

They just don't get it

We are trying to win the league but we'll still be happy with 4th if we miss it. It's no good at all us having the pressure taken off because we need to get used to coping with pressure if we're ever going to win it in the future. Now is an ideal time for the players, staff AND FANS, to get used to how it feels to be in a title race. It puts us in good shape for next season. Pile it on.

The real pressure imo, will come if we get stuck behind Spurs not when we're chasing the rags. Yesterday was a great chance to more or less kill them off but they were dead lucky & we were unlucky.

I'd much rather us have the pressure of going for the title than the pressure that comes with sitting in 4th and 5th. I personally have no expectations of winning the league either, more the knowledge that we are pushing the usual contenders and giving us an excellent chance of CL qualification.

Yesterday will automatically put pressure on the players and manager as they have the mentality to win every game, and let's just hope they take the positives of this defeat into another difficult away game at Brum. If we don't get anything there, the pressure will ne really on.

We are slowly developing a belief in ourselves, the players and supporters are starting to feel it. I always had a feeling yesterday that we were going to score and all would be ok. It didnt happen, but personally I felt my mind set has changed, does anyone feel the same?

The last couple of months have been the most consistent I've ever seen as a City fan, and that includes the 2 5th places in the 90's. 1 loss doesnt stop the train, we need to keep chuffin' !

in response to the title thread, we clearly can't cope with pressure. We had the chance to go top against everton and looked terrified. Same against wolves, apart from a good 30 minute spell when we scored enough, just. Had to listen on radio to yesterday, but it sounded like there was something wrong in first half again. A few of the players need to think about whether this is really for them, as they talk big in interviews, then disappear when it matters.

I'm sure people on here will say we just need to buy another x or y and we'll be good enough. Well here's a novel idea, why don't some of the vast number of coaches we have try coaching some of the players? That way perhaps they could get better in a way that works for other clubs.

Its all well and good not having the pressure on and hope,I'd rather have banked the points though.
Villa should have been put to the sword.

We haven't been terrified against anyone bar Utd imo & that was only Bob.

We just aren't yet as good as we'd like to be & make mistakes whether under pressure or not.

Some kind of belief system may start to kick in once we win away games after going behind - until then ....

It's certainly a good view on the pressure. The pressure is off us. However , yesterday's game was not good, but it's not like villa were the best thing since sliced bread, they were rubbish and snook a win with one shot on goal ! We take heart in playing very well, on the whole. How De Jong didn't score yesterday is beyond belief ! The poor fella is doomed, doomed I tell you!

zuricity wrote: However , yesterday's game was not good, but it's not like villa were the best thing since sliced bread, they were rubbish and snook a win with one shot on goal ! We take heart in playing very well, on the whole.

We will though face more games like that unless we can learn to 'mix up' our attacking play a little.
Villa knew exactly what we had to offer and defended accordingly - we did too little too late to change their minds.

There are what (I think) 14 fixtures in the title race, with the Rags, Chelski and the Scousers. As Mancini knows, you can only look ahead to the next game and no farther, but I think everyone on the team knows that the CL is all that matters. I am not trying to lessen the value of what a League Title would mean, but given that we've won nothing for so long; a UEFA or FA Cup would change the club's culture overnight. Nothing changes a club more than winning a few cups. So look out Forrest and Aris!!

I think this is all fans and paper talk, i mean all teams are aiming to win every game, reality is that it doesn't happen. In terms of City they found themselves equal on pts at the top, fair enough but with two games in hand it was still the rags to lose not City's to win. If we continue to aim to win each game, which we will do, then we will see where that lands us. At present after losing at Villa the landscape hasn't changed that much, the rags would still have to fucl up as they would have had to before for the whole thing to get seriously close. City's aim doesn't change, win every game. If we are not able to do that we will end up about where we are depending on others, if we somehow did win all games we would still be seriously challenging the very top, but again depending on how the others do.

I'm in agreement with what Vinnie has said on the OS, basically it is all there to play for. We fucl up and we lose ground, if the others fucl up they will lose ground, City's aim is still the same win the games and see.

King Kev wrote:It's a good point. The target for the season is suddenly being reported as being to win the league when, in reality, it is to finish in the top 4.

Maybe now we have slipped all the way down to 3rd the media will concentrate on somebody else and some of the pressure will be lifted off us.

you must be joking about the media kev, they will be on us like a ton of bricks. all this money spent and they only want 4th place, and other rubish will be spouted now, and it is up to us to lift our game now, we are putting pressure on ourselfs now.

CitizenYank wrote:There are what (I think) 14 fixtures in the title race, with the Rags, Chelski and the Scousers. As Mancini knows, you can only look ahead to the next game and no farther, but I think everyone on the team knows that the CL is all that matters. I am not trying to lessen the value of what a League Title would mean, but given that we've won nothing for so long; a UEFA or FA Cup would change the club's culture overnight. Nothing changes a club more than winning a few cups. So look out Forrest and Aris!!

Forest??? Are you psychic by any chance ;-0

brite blu sky wrote:I think this is all fans and paper talk, i mean all teams are aiming to win every game, reality is that it doesn't happen. In terms of City they found themselves equal on pts at the top, fair enough but with two games in hand it was still the rags to lose not City's to win. If we continue to aim to win each game, which we will do, then we will see where that lands us. At present after losing at Villa the landscape hasn't changed that much, the rags would still have to fucl up as they would have had to before for the whole thing to get seriously close. City's aim doesn't change, win every game. If we are not able to do that we will end up about where we are depending on others, if we somehow did win all games we would still be seriously challenging the very top, but again depending on how the others do.

I'm in agreement with what Vinnie has said on the OS, basically it is all there to play for. We fucl up and we lose ground, if the others fucl up they will lose ground, City's aim is still the same win the games and see.

Reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallyyyyyy??? If we win all 38 games we would be seriously challenging? It wouldnt really matter how the others did cause we'd have beaten them all twice!

Crossie wrote:

brite blu sky wrote:I think this is all fans and paper talk, i mean all teams are aiming to win every game, reality is that it doesn't happen. In terms of City they found themselves equal on pts at the top, fair enough but with two games in hand it was still the rags to lose not City's to win. If we continue to aim to win each game, which we will do, then we will see where that lands us. At present after losing at Villa the landscape hasn't changed that much, the rags would still have to fucl up as they would have had to before for the whole thing to get seriously close. City's aim doesn't change, win every game. If we are not able to do that we will end up about where we are depending on others, if we somehow did win all games we would still be seriously challenging the very top, but again depending on how the others do.

I'm in agreement with what Vinnie has said on the OS, basically it is all there to play for. We fucl up and we lose ground, if the others fucl up they will lose ground, City's aim is still the same win the games and see.

Reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallyyyyyy??? If we win all 38 games we would be seriously challenging? It wouldnt really matter how the others did cause we'd have beaten them all twice!

There are only 14 games left for us Crossie not 38. The rags have 16 left. If somehow we won all 14 which i doubt we still would only be on about as many points as the rags if they continue the way they are doing. So the point was that it wasn't in our hands and it still isn't even if we did win all 14 games left.

Beefymcfc wrote:

CitizenYank wrote:There are what (I think) 14 fixtures in the title race, with the Rags, Chelski and the Scousers. As Mancini knows, you can only look ahead to the next game and no farther, but I think everyone on the team knows that the CL is all that matters. I am not trying to lessen the value of what a League Title would mean, but given that we've won nothing for so long; a UEFA or FA Cup would change the club's culture overnight. Nothing changes a club more than winning a few cups. So look out Forrest and Aris!!

Forest??? Are you psychic by any chance ;-0

HAHA!!