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Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:33 pm
by Beefymcfc
So, will he walk?

Re: Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:35 pm
by Moonchesteri
I don't get these fines the FA gives. I mean, they mean nothing to clubs & players at this level.
It's like they don't give a fine at all. Just like if you earn two grand a month and you get one pound fine for something.
Ridiculous.

Re: Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:50 pm
by ENIAM NAM
If he is a man of his word like he always says he is. God I hope he does, I'm really starting to dislike him!

Re: Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:58 pm
by Sister of fu
If you have a 25 man squad then surely you are well within your rights to play who you like. Who are the FA to judge players abilities and say he isn't good enough so you can't play him. IMO it makes a mockery of the 25 man squad rule. For instance if we played the following team would we be fined.

Taylor
Richards
Boyata
Lescott
Cunningham (if fit)
SWP
Paddy V
M Johnson
Weiss ( if not on loan)
Jo
Guidetti

Re: Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:12 pm
by Wonderwall
Sister of fu wrote:If you have a 25 man squad then surely you are well within your rights to play who you like. Who are the FA to judge players abilities and say he isn't good enough so you can't play him. IMO it makes a mockery of the 25 man squad rule.


Absolutely spot on, he should take them to court over it. They made rules in which he had to select a premier league squad in which he must select his players from. Who are they to say who his team should be. I would take it as high as possible and make them look like a bunch of cunts.

Re: Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:27 pm
by gillie
Wonderwall wrote:
Sister of fu wrote:If you have a 25 man squad then surely you are well within your rights to play who you like. Who are the FA to judge players abilities and say he isn't good enough so you can't play him. IMO it makes a mockery of the 25 man squad rule.


Absolutely spot on, he should take them to court over it. They made rules in which he had to select a premier league squad in which he must select his players from. Who are they to say who his team should be. I would take it as high as possible and make them look like a bunch of cunts.

I concur with you both.

Re: Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:35 pm
by Beefymcfc
gillie wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:
Sister of fu wrote:If you have a 25 man squad then surely you are well within your rights to play who you like. Who are the FA to judge players abilities and say he isn't good enough so you can't play him. IMO it makes a mockery of the 25 man squad rule.


Absolutely spot on, he should take them to court over it. They made rules in which he had to select a premier league squad in which he must select his players from. Who are they to say who his team should be. I would take it as high as possible and make them look like a bunch of cunts.

I concur with you both.

And I agree with the triplets. How can they fine someone for playing the players they were forced to register. Either they fight it or Holloway should stand-by his principles.

It's not as if it was similar to the Wolves debacle where they got absolutely stuffed, they narrowly lost to a CL team.

Re: Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:37 pm
by Beefymcfc
On the other hand, who'd like to see Holloway walk?

And why as it taken so long for this to be announced, did Holloway go against Taggart's orders or something?

Re: Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:05 pm
by Green & Blue
Good bye ollie, a man of his word no doubt.

Re: Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:16 pm
by TonyM
It's a joke. Same as when they fined Wolves.

This is where Platini should be jumoing in, i.e. to make sure teams are treated equally by FAs. Pity he's a cock too.

Re: Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:42 pm
by Andy, lincs
It probably needs pointing out that this fine has been handed out by the Premier League and not the FA.

Unless I've read it wrong!

Re: Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:20 pm
by Sister of fu
Andy, lincs wrote:It probably needs pointing out that this fine has been handed out by the Premier League and not the FA.

Unless I've read it wrong!



Well surely the premier league should be fining us for playing Jo???

Re: Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:28 pm
by Twobob
So they fine them for using thier squad players, but not for having an unfit ground during the winter games because rhey skin-flinted it and didnt get any undersoil heating??

Fucking genius!

Re: Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:32 pm
by blootoof
Sister of fu wrote:
Andy, lincs wrote:It probably needs pointing out that this fine has been handed out by the Premier League and not the FA.

Unless I've read it wrong!



Well surely the premier league should be fining us for playing Jo???


He's a Brazilian
He kicks a ball

Superfuckinstar right there

OH!

And he's shit

Re: Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:33 am
by john@staustell
Sister of fu wrote:If you have a 25 man squad then surely you are well within your rights to play who you like. Who are the FA to judge players abilities and say he isn't good enough so you can't play him. IMO it makes a mockery of the 25 man squad rule. For instance if we played the following team would we be fined.

Taylor
Richards
Boyata
Lescott
Cunningham (if fit)
SWP
Paddy V
M Johnson
Weiss ( if not on loan)
Jo
Guidetti


Yep

And rightly so.

Of those only Richards, Lescott, and possibly PV, MJ and Guidetti should be anywhere near a Premiership football pitch.

Re: Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:17 am
by john68
Whilst I agree that a club should be able to pick whichever players it wants to. We are all aware why this rule exists.
Whether the penalties for abuse of the rule are sufficient to stop abuse, is another matter.

Re: Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:43 am
by zuricity
Yeah, Birmingham rest key players against United, because their most important game for years, sees them to the league cup final.

Their pathetic display gave united a very useful three points. Three days later they steal a win to get to wembley. Yet a different team only three weeks ago , could have stolen the points at Brum. Very risky of brum, if they had lost on Wednesday, well, I suspect the pressure would be on their manager.

As it is though, united walk around with smirks on their faces, they can't believe their good fortune with the way the season is panning out for them.

Re: Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:59 am
by Fish111
I reckon it's quite right that Blackpool have been fined. The so-called big clubs who do it play their 'lesser' players in cup competitions not in the league so the argument that we/they don't get fined for doing it doesn't hold up. The FA have decided not to act on the clubs who field weakened teams in their cup competitions, that's their perogative and they can now never fine anyone who does that as they have set the precedent but Blackpool deliberately fielded a weakened team in a Premier League game to save players for the next game that they deemed more winnable. As it happens they still very nearly won the game but that is an irrelevance.
The rule states you must field your strongest team at all times in the premier league, they didn't so they got fined, what's the big deal? Wolves did it first, got warned and threatened with a fine which sent a message out to everyone else but the fuckwit Holloway decided to ignore the warning. Lets see if he's a man of his word like he always says he is.

Re: Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:06 am
by Slim
Fish111 wrote:I reckon it's quite right that Blackpool have been fined. The so-called big clubs who do it play their 'lesser' players in cup competitions not in the league so the argument that we/they don't get fined for doing it doesn't hold up. The FA have decided not to act on the clubs who field weakened teams in their cup competitions, that's their perogative and they can now never fine anyone who does that as they have set the precedent but Blackpool deliberately fielded a weakened team in a Premier League game to save players for the next game that they deemed more winnable. As it happens they still very nearly won the game but that is an irrelevance.
The rule states you must field your strongest team at all times in the premier league, they didn't so they got fined, what's the big deal? Wolves did it first, got warned and threatened with a fine which sent a message out to everyone else but the fuckwit Holloway decided to ignore the warning. Lets see if he's a man of his word like he always says he is.


Okay, the rule has been changed from "your strongest team" to "must not field a weakened team" but on your logic, if we rest Tevez for a game, we should be fined....not our strongest team without him in it, letter of the law says fine. The Premier League set themselves up for an appeal here, they made the 25 list and said you may only pick players for League matches from that 25, they did and are now being fined for it.

I also wonder if the fine would happen should Blackpool have won the match, my bet is not.

Re: Blackpool - 25 Grand Fine

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:23 am
by Fish111
Slim wrote:Okay, the rule has been changed from "your strongest team" to "must not field a weakened team" but on your logic, if we rest Tevez for a game, we should be fined....not our strongest team without him in it, letter of the law says fine. The Premier League set themselves up for an appeal here, they made the 25 list and said you may only pick players for League matches from that 25, they did and are now being fined for it.

I also wonder if the fine would happen should Blackpool have won the match, my bet is not.


I must confess i do not know the precise wording of the rule whether it says 'strongest' or 'weakest' or whatever. The fact remains that the precedent was set by the premier league when they warned Wolves and stated that the next time it happens a fine will follow. Blackpool chose to ignore this and must now pay the fine. What would have happened if they had won the game? Who knows? They didn't win the game but most definately could have done if he had fielded his strongest team, Holloway fucked up that night and broke the rules. He must now pay his pennance.
Isn't the 25 man rule a UEFA instruction and not just the premier league thing? Which ever way i accept that the 25 man thingy is shit and i personally have never liked it and this incident highlights what a waste of space it is, that does need looking at.
Us dropping one player, Tevez, wouldn't be classed as fielding a weakened team for obvious reasons but maybe we would be treading on thin ice if we changed 10 players for the next league game and lost? Even though our second eleven would be stronger than most first teams in Prem.
Maybe it's just a consequence of the power of the bigger clubs that we would get away with it and shit clubs like Blackpool and Wolves suffer but for competitions sake i wholeheartedly agree with the rule. You can't have teams picking and choosing which games to target for points, every single match should be a spectacle for the fans and they should be allowed to expect to see their best team they can slug it out with whoever.
Sorry for waffling on!