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He's looking better. I thought he was very solid yesterday.

As was Milner.

You ditch your scapegoat and I'll ditch mine :)



Jo's off limits though, I'm still kidnapping that cunt.

dazby wrote:He's looking better. I thought he was very solid yesterday.

He was crap. The odd occasion he did something like finding space, he passed to an opposing pleyer. Seriously, what is it you see in him? I watched him closely, sat 10 yards from him in the 2nd half, mainly, and he is nervous, twitchy and looks utterly lost. It's a bad buy and Mancini is blind if he can't see it. He should just accept he dropped a bullock, a big one, and move on. Now Dzeko...are you as worried as me or is it settling in issues for him?

s1ty m wrote:

dazby wrote:He's looking better. I thought he was very solid yesterday.

He was crap. The odd occasion he did something like finding space, he passed to an opposing pleyer. Seriously, what is it you see in him? I watched him closely, sat 10 yards from him in the 2nd half, mainly, and he is nervous, twitchy and looks utterly lost. It's a bad buy and Mancini is blind if he can't see it. He should just accept he dropped a bullock, a big one, and move on. Now Dzeko...are you as worried as me or is it settling in issues for him?

Fuck me, it's bad enough to slag a player like Boateng who yesterday was much better than his usual, thus showing signs of improving (plus I liked his rock solid tackle into the box in the second half, can't remember on who though) but to slag Dzeko who's been here less than a month, in a side which has not always played its best football lately, thus dragging him down too, it's a fair bit of overreacting on your part, mate! ;) Really, we haven't played to nay of his strengths so far, I saw someone mentioning in another thread that yesterday we kept crossing while he wasn't there, then as soon as he came on we only had one cross...he's not only a header of the ball but that's one of his main strengths, if we don't exploit that it's our fault, not his. also, consider the change of league, nation, playing style of the team around him...he needs some months to adapt for sure, he was never going to score an hattrick every other game. Had he had a whole preseason with us, things would have been different...

But I'm confident his first Prem goal is coming very soon, if you get my meaning ;)

You answered the question in your post. He found space. Regularly. He defended well. He's very comfortable on the ball and not nervous like you are making out. Yes his final pass in a very congested forward line left a bit to be desired but he found space others didn't.

I see potential.


Dzeko. hmm. His first touch let him down and cost him a some great chances. However. If Manci were to say to Tevez "Give Dzeko a goal." I have no doubt he'd score a hatrick.

One of the earlier posts said Jerome was solid which is correct but in our system the right back has to be an attacking threat and yesterday Silva spent many a minute waiting for him to offer an option and when jerome got the ball he just did not make forward movement he just stood still. I still prefer Zab or Micah for the RB position

Boateng was much better yesterday than he's been of late. Any chance we could actually give players adapting to this league more than 6 months to get acclimated and prove their worth? it's getting kinda boring tbh about how much Boateng and Kolarov suck ass. And now Salty cum guzzler says Dzeko's wank? Give me fuclin break, please.

to quote my friend Kanye -- it's "fukken ridikewlusss"

cheers

CityFanFromRome wrote:

s1ty m wrote:

dazby wrote:He's looking better. I thought he was very solid yesterday.

He was crap. The odd occasion he did something like finding space, he passed to an opposing pleyer. Seriously, what is it you see in him? I watched him closely, sat 10 yards from him in the 2nd half, mainly, and he is nervous, twitchy and looks utterly lost. It's a bad buy and Mancini is blind if he can't see it. He should just accept he dropped a bullock, a big one, and move on. Now Dzeko...are you as worried as me or is it settling in issues for him?

Fuck me, it's bad enough to slag a player like Boateng who yesterday was much better than his usual, thus showing signs of improving (plus I liked his rock solid tackle into the box in the second half, can't remember on who though) but to slag Dzeko who's been here less than a month, in a side which has not always played its best football lately, thus dragging him down too, it's a fair bit of overreacting on your part, mate! ;) Really, we haven't played to nay of his strengths so far, I saw someone mentioning in another thread that yesterday we kept crossing while he wasn't there, then as soon as he came on we only had one cross...he's not only a header of the ball but that's one of his main strengths, if we don't exploit that it's our fault, not his. also, consider the change of league, nation, playing style of the team around him...he needs some months to adapt for sure, he was never going to score an hattrick every other game. Had he had a whole preseason with us, things would have been different...

But I'm confident his first Prem goal is coming very soon, if you get my meaning ;)

Get a grip mate. I am not slagging Dzeko, simply asking if anyone shares my concerns. If you can't see weaknesses in these 2 players, as they curently stand, that's your business. I'll retain my opinions until they convince me otherwise. Boateng though, if he turns out to be a player, I will streak across the pitch. I will do it, hold me to it. Dazby, perhaps you are right, I really hope you are. He was better yesterday than some of the other truly appalling games he has had, but if he can't pass a ball 30 yards, he's got trouble. On one occasion, he passed to a WBA player when one of our fellas was not even 20 yards away. I have to challenge that, it was pathetic.

Boateng defended pretty well but he didn't attack very well at all. He's learning all the time though & I'm sure he'll be fine eventually but right now he's still our 3rd best right back & 5th best centre half imo.

Sity stop talking utter shite..Dzeko has just got here you Melon

s1ty m wrote:

CityFanFromRome wrote:

s1ty m wrote:

dazby wrote:He's looking better. I thought he was very solid yesterday.

He was crap. The odd occasion he did something like finding space, he passed to an opposing pleyer. Seriously, what is it you see in him? I watched him closely, sat 10 yards from him in the 2nd half, mainly, and he is nervous, twitchy and looks utterly lost. It's a bad buy and Mancini is blind if he can't see it. He should just accept he dropped a bullock, a big one, and move on. Now Dzeko...are you as worried as me or is it settling in issues for him?

Fuck me, it's bad enough to slag a player like Boateng who yesterday was much better than his usual, thus showing signs of improving (plus I liked his rock solid tackle into the box in the second half, can't remember on who though) but to slag Dzeko who's been here less than a month, in a side which has not always played its best football lately, thus dragging him down too, it's a fair bit of overreacting on your part, mate! ;) Really, we haven't played to nay of his strengths so far, I saw someone mentioning in another thread that yesterday we kept crossing while he wasn't there, then as soon as he came on we only had one cross...he's not only a header of the ball but that's one of his main strengths, if we don't exploit that it's our fault, not his. also, consider the change of league, nation, playing style of the team around him...he needs some months to adapt for sure, he was never going to score an hattrick every other game. Had he had a whole preseason with us, things would have been different...

But I'm confident his first Prem goal is coming very soon, if you get my meaning ;)

Get a grip mate. I am not slagging Dzeko, simply asking if anyone shares my concerns. If you can't see weaknesses in these 2 players, as they curently stand, that's your business. I'll retain my opinions until they convince me otherwise. Boateng though, if he turns out to be a player, I will streak across the pitch. I will do it, hold me to it. Dazby, perhaps you are right, I really hope you are. He was better yesterday than some of the other truly appalling games he has had, but if he can't pass a ball 30 yards, he's got trouble. On one occasion, he passed to a WBA player when one of our fellas was not even 20 yards away. I have to challenge that, it was pathetic.

I'm beginning to mate... Not that I think Dzecko is crap.. far from it (and its too early to tell anyways), its that so far to me it seems he upsets the whole shape and tactics that our squad has finally learnt how to play effectvely. As someone else replied to my post in another thread.... "Rodneymarshitis"

Beeks wrote:Sity stop talking utter shite..Dzeko has just got here you Melon

Bollocks! Absolutely not writing him off, not my business to anyway and I hope like everyone that he turns out to be great. Just asking if others see weaknesses. You don't, fair enough. Tell me what strengths you see. Perhaps that is a more positive way of looking at it.

As you know, I am Boateng's biggest fan -larf- and even I thought he had a decent game yesterday. He really should play centrehalf more often as I think he may be better suited to that roll, but he was quite efficient down the right when he got the ball and had some lovely touches.

Dzeko, well that's just daft, nuff said.

s1ty m wrote:

Beeks wrote:Sity stop talking utter shite..Dzeko has just got here you Melon

Bollocks! Absolutely not writing him off, not my business to anyway and I hope like everyone that he turns out to be great. Just asking if others see weaknesses. You don't, fair enough. Tell me what strengths you see. Perhaps that is a more positive way of looking at it.

I see someone who can use both feet, win the ball in the air, use his physical size and strength in and around the box, moves nicely off the ball and can beat a man. There's not a lot more needed other than time for him to fit in with the other players, as I see it.

s1ty m wrote:

Beeks wrote:Sity stop talking utter shite..Dzeko has just got here you Melon

Bollocks! Absolutely not writing him off, not my business to anyway and I hope like everyone that he turns out to be great. Just asking if others see weaknesses. You don't, fair enough. Tell me what strengths you see. Perhaps that is a more positive way of looking at it.

Upside: Good technique, good work rate, good mentality, skilful, two footed, probably good in the air but not seen much of that yet.

Downside: Not lightening quick and has yet to find his feet or get on the same wavelength as rest of the team but then most of our new arrivals this season have taken time to adapt and adjust. Some are still settling in. Shame that no one seems to grasp this concept of settling in, adjusting to new teammates, style of play, different country, etc etc but I live in hope.

Ted Hughes wrote:Boateng defended pretty well but he didn't attack very well at all. He's learning all the time though & I'm sure he'll be fine eventually but right now he's still our 3rd best right back & 5th best centre half imo.

His biggest problem is this.

He cannot get past anyone on that wing (which is probably why he shouldn't be there) he ALWAYS pulls the ball back so forget any breakways sprints up that end of the field.

Also, his positioning is still shit....he was in no mans land on too many occasions and was lucky to get one last lunge in (could so easily have been a penalty) as he was left for dead.

He did play better than he has done ( we were playing WBA btw) but he is NOT the answer - all in all it was a bad buy imo.