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So rash head says about Rooney's disgraceful elbow where he actually left the ground to hopefully give momentum towards breaking another player's jaw.

This horrible cunt plays the media like nobody else. We all know this, but Christ, the way he spoke about the fact that the media will unfairly bring it up again and again in the hope that the FA bring a charge against Rooney "like they usually do" was so typical.

Even more typical would be if the fat cunt got away with it. And you know what? It wouldn't suprise me in the least. And IF he does get away with it, its more than likely down to Baconface.

Pair of cunts.

Did he get a card? Is it not so that if the ref. did not see it the FA cannot do anything? Or is it if the ref saw it and did not card him they cannot do anything and if he reports he did NOT see it they can take action?

cuntenburg saw the incident and gave Wigan a free kick for the foul, he didnt deem it worthy of a card!

Original Dub wrote:So rash head says about Rooney's disgraceful elbow where he actually left the ground to hopefully give momentum towards breaking another player's jaw.

This horrible cunt plays the media like nobody else. We all know this, but Christ, the way he spoke about the fact that the media will unfairly bring it up again and again in the hope that the FA bring a charge against Rooney "like they usually do" was so typical.

Even more typical would be if the fat cunt got away with it. And you know what? It wouldn't suprise me in the least. And IF he does get away with it, its more than likely down to Baconface.

Pair of cunts.

I think there is a suggestion made by Alan Hansen, and backed up by Mike Phelan's words last night that the referee could be finally outed here. Phelan said that at half time Cuntenburg said it was a "coming together" a view which United shared.

However immediately after, Hansen highlighted that Cuntenburg had NOT seen the incident and questioned why he even blew his whistle when he had not seen the incident. He clearly knew something had happened only because of the aftermath, but it is now down to the wording of the question he is asked by the FA

He will now be asked by the FA one of the following questions:

"Had he seen the incident correctly, would he have taken different action?" If he says no, he is 100% a fucking nailed on, cheating munich loving cunt. If he is asked, "did he see the incident and deal with it as he saw fit at the time?" and again if he says yes, he is a cheat, and worse, a downright liar - because Hansen proved last night that he hadn't seen the incident - he was looking in the opposite direction, and there isnt even an argument that he saw the incident in his peripheral vision.

And what the fuck was the signal towards the touchline all about, ala Linekar to Bobby Robson telling him to keep an eye on Gazza. Was the cunt letting his buddy Fergie know he had gotten away with one there?

This incident could see Cuntenberg completely lose whatever shreds of credibility he may have left, and I personally feel could leave him out of a job if he doesnt deal with it properly.

Im_Spartacus wrote:

Original Dub wrote:So rash head says about Rooney's disgraceful elbow where he actually left the ground to hopefully give momentum towards breaking another player's jaw.

This horrible cunt plays the media like nobody else. We all know this, but Christ, the way he spoke about the fact that the media will unfairly bring it up again and again in the hope that the FA bring a charge against Rooney "like they usually do" was so typical.

Even more typical would be if the fat cunt got away with it. And you know what? It wouldn't suprise me in the least. And IF he does get away with it, its more than likely down to Baconface.

Pair of cunts.

I think there is a suggestion made by Alan Hansen, and backed up by Mike Phelan's words last night that the referee could be finally outed here. Phelan said that at half time Cuntenburg said it was a "coming together" a view which United shared.

However immediately after, Hansen highlighted that Cuntenburg had NOT seen the incident and questioned why he even blew his whistle when he had not seen the incident. He clearly knew something had happened only because of the aftermath, but it is now down to the wording of the question he is asked by the FA

He will now be asked by the FA one of the following questions:

"Had he seen the incident correctly, would he have taken different action?" If he says no, he is 100% a fucking nailed on, cheating munich loving cunt. If he is asked, "did he see the incident and deal with it as he saw fit at the time?" and again if he says yes, he is a cheat, and worse, a downright liar - because Hansen proved last night that he hadn't seen the incident - he was looking in the opposite direction, and there isnt even an argument that he saw the incident in his peripheral vision.

And what the fuck was the signal towards the touchline all about, ala Linekar to Bobby Robson telling him to keep an eye on Gazza. Was the cunt letting his buddy Fergie know he had gotten away with one there?

This incident could see Cuntenberg completely lose whatever shreds of credibility he may have left, and I personally feel could leave him out of a job if he doesnt deal with it properly.

Cheers for that John, very interesting.

As I said in the match thread yesterday, I know people who know Clattonburg personally and they say if any ref is bent its this cunt. A grade A wanker who loves flashing the cash. I've seen enough of him now to know he's taking money.

Will he still be in the game in a couple of weeks? My money says he will.


The cunt.

There are 3 more refs on the field so even though he was looking another way there was atleast a 4th off. and a linesman who could have seen something.

Looking forward to seeing what the outcome of this is!

I would like to 'next to nothing' taggart's face with my elbow.

King Kev wrote:I would like to 'next to nothing' taggart's face with my elbow.

:)

On MotD last night they seemed sure that the ref was not looking at the incident even if he did blow up for something.
On that papers show this morning one guy said it was clear from the videos that the ref was looking at the incident.

It's all a question of what story you want to tell. The very fact that the scum spokesperson said what he did was , to me at least ,100% proof that they know exactly what shrek was guilty of and they were trying to get their words in early to dare the FA/prem league to do something. I don't think he will get done for what was a coward's assault.

Anyone found a youtube clip of this for us that did not watch the game?

Fesan wrote:Did he get a card? Is it not so that if the ref. did not see it the FA cannot do anything? Or is it if the ref saw it and did not card him they cannot do anything and if he reports he did NOT see it they can take action?

Remember Ade didn't get any punishment for kicking Van Pussy until AFTER the match.

Fesan wrote:Anyone found a youtube clip of this for us that did not watch the game?

Nevermind:)

http://videos.sapo.pt/bmPbvs3idumD4U43za3w

Florida Blue wrote:

Fesan wrote:Did he get a card? Is it not so that if the ref. did not see it the FA cannot do anything? Or is it if the ref saw it and did not card him they cannot do anything and if he reports he did NOT see it they can take action?

Remember Ade didn't get any punishment for kicking Van Pussy until AFTER the match.

That rings a bell alright.

Who was the ref again? Oh yes, it was the same crooked cunt. And if I recall correctly, he was looking straight at the incident and later told the FA he didn't see it.

England will go like Italy did a couple of years back and this cunt is going to be top of the pile, mark my words.

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:On MotD last night they seemed sure that the ref was not looking at the incident even if he did blow up for something.
On that papers show this morning one guy said it was clear from the videos that the ref was looking at the incident.

It's all a question of what story you want to tell. The very fact that the scum spokesperson said what he did was , to me at least ,100% proof that they know exactly what shrek was guilty of and they were trying to get their words in early to dare the FA/prem league to do something. I don't think he will get done for what was a coward's assault.

The key words.

Having just watched it again, it was an absolutely, cowardly, despicable, unprovoked attack, when the bloke wasn't even looking at him. Vintage Roy Keane, in fact. One of the most obvious red cards of the season, like Neville's at Stoke.

If Clattenburg is willing to now stand up & say he saw it & chose the option of doing nothing, he should never referee another Prem Lg game EVER. This is the same bloke who chose the option of sending off a young kid 5 mins into the Arsenal game remember. He could have let that go but chose not to. Those two incidents could possibly have meant 6 points difference to us in the title race.

He needs to have the balls to stand up & admit that he didn't see the incident properly & let the powers that be decide. If he doesn't, he's not a fair & competent ref imo & should be sacked.

King Kev wrote:I would like to 'next to nothing' taggart's face with my elbow.

lol

Original Dub wrote:

Florida Blue wrote:

Fesan wrote:Did he get a card? Is it not so that if the ref. did not see it the FA cannot do anything? Or is it if the ref saw it and did not card him they cannot do anything and if he reports he did NOT see it they can take action?

Remember Ade didn't get any punishment for kicking Van Pussy until AFTER the match.

That rings a bell alright.

Who was the ref again? Oh yes, it was the same crooked cunt. And if I recall correctly, he was looking straight at the incident and later told the FA he didn't see it.

England will go like Italy did a couple of years back and this cunt is going to be top of the pile, mark my words.

This is the crux of the matter, when I posted above I couldnt remember which case it was where the rules were bent (to my mind the rules were subsequently applied as they should be, as Adebayors was a cowardly challenge too)

In Adebayor's case, the sequence of events were that when asked by the FA the referee said that he HAD seen the incident at the time, but had NOT spotted the full nature of the challenge, hence whilst he had dealt with it at the time with a booking, he later said "had I seen the incident in full, I would have sent him off", which the FA's opportunity to throw the book at Ade.

That was the first time such a rule had been used - as to my recollection, it had always been the case that if it is a booking that is the end of the matter and the FA had never previously intervened. Adebayor set the precendent for this, so it is very simple, Rooney should get a 3 game ban, there should be no further discussion about it.

Im_Spartacus wrote:

Original Dub wrote:

Florida Blue wrote:

Fesan wrote:Did he get a card? Is it not so that if the ref. did not see it the FA cannot do anything? Or is it if the ref saw it and did not card him they cannot do anything and if he reports he did NOT see it they can take action?

Remember Ade didn't get any punishment for kicking Van Pussy until AFTER the match.

That rings a bell alright.

Who was the ref again? Oh yes, it was the same crooked cunt. And if I recall correctly, he was looking straight at the incident and later told the FA he didn't see it.

England will go like Italy did a couple of years back and this cunt is going to be top of the pile, mark my words.

This is the crux of the matter, when I posted above I couldnt remember which case it was where the rules were bent (to my mind the rules were subsequently applied as they should be, as Adebayors was a cowardly challenge too)

In Adebayor's case, the sequence of events were that when asked by the FA the referee said that he HAD seen the incident at the time, but had NOT spotted the full nature of the challenge, hence whilst he had dealt with it at the time with a booking, he later said "had I seen the incident in full, I would have sent him off", which the FA's opportunity to throw the book at Ade.

That was the first time such a rule had been used - as to my recollection, it had always been the case that if it is a booking that is the end of the matter and the FA had never previously intervened. Adebayor set the precendent for this, so it is very simple, Rooney should get a 3 game ban, there should be no further discussion about it.

Hmmm... will he though? This is Manchester United we are talking about.

Would surprise me if he did get a ban, but we can all see that if Adebayor's kick was intentional then that elbow was too...

King Kev wrote:I would like to 'next to nothing' taggart's face with my elbow.

Aye. Problem is once I'd started, I'd never stop.

Was listening to Talksport this dinnertime and Neil Warnock was on the programme.

They were discussing the Rooney elbow and he remarked about something very interesting that had happened a few years ago with regards to referee Steve Bennett.

Warnock claimed that Steve Bennett was a referee who saw everything in black and white, with no shades of grey in between. He was a stickler for the rule book and would never flinch from a sending off, if that very rule book demanded it, irrespective of any circumstances. He then said that at the end of one season, the Scum were playing (ironically) away at Wigan and it was an absolutely awful game. At one stage, Scholes committed a diabolical foul on one of the Wigan players, which merited a yellow card at the very least, but Steve Bennett just let it go.

Warnock then said that that was the time he became convinced that the Scum always received preferential treatment from officials and he still believed that, to this day. The presenter, taken slightly aback and queried this comment and Warnock repeated it.

I thought it most interesting for a current manager, expecting his side to be playing in the Premier League next season, to come out quite openly and state such an opinion. Don't know if anyone from the Premier League Management would have been listening but if Arsene Wenger had heard that, no doubt he might have been tempted to echo the sentiment, being a first class whinger in his own right.

However, after all that excitement (??), Warnock did revert to type and said that he would have "protected" any player of his, in a similar position, in the same way that Fergiescum had i.e mouthing off immediately to the Press about Rooney being victimised.

Still, an interesting few minutes while it lasted.