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Baconface

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:02 am
by bluej
Won't even talk to his own club's tv channel now, deary me.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011 ... -fa-charge

Sir Alex Ferguson is refusing to speak to Manchester United's own television station after being charged with improper conduct for his outspoken criticisms of the referee Martin Atkinson.

Ferguson has cancelled his weekly media briefing ahead of Sunday's game at Liverpool and the club have confirmed that MUTV will not be allowed any time with the manager after airing the interview that could lead to him having to watch up to five games from the stands.

The United manager had been heavily critical of Atkinson's performance in the 2-1 defeat at Chelsea on Tuesday, blaming a series of refereeing decisions and suggesting that Atkinson should not have been appointed for the match because it demanded "a fair referee". The implication was of Atkinson showing bias towards Chelsea, and after viewing a copy of the video, the FA has decided there is sufficient reason to act.

Ferguson discovered the news several hours before the official announcement and responded by informing his press officers that he was withdrawing himself from media duties. His cancelling of press conferences has become an increasingly regular occurrence over recent years, but the difference this time is that MUTV have been denied access to his thoughts. It is the first time Ferguson has refused to speak to them since 2005, when one of the presenters said he would prefer the team to operate a 4-4-2 system rather than 4-5-1 and the chief executive, David Gill, had to intervene after an incensed Ferguson withdrew all co-operation.

No official reason has been given for the latest exclusion but, within the club, there is a sense that the station should have been more alert to the possibility that Ferguson was in danger of talking himself into trouble rather than running the interview in full a few minutes after it was recorded. For example, the club's official website left out the "fair referee" comment that has led to Ferguson's fifth disciplinary charge in as many years for remarks about referees.

Ferguson has indicated he wants to fight the case but United's legal advisers will meet him on Friday morning to recommend he accepts the charge on the basis that denying any wrongdoing would incur the possibility of further punishment were he to be found guilty. He already has two matches of a four-game touchline ban hanging over him as a suspended sentence for his criticisms of Alan Wiley in 2009 – Ferguson had described him as not physically fit to officiate in the Premier League – and the feeling at United is that he will receive a three-match ban if he admits the charge but possibly four or five if he pleads not guilty. Ferguson must inform the FA of his decision by 4pm on Tuesday and a hearing is likely to take place towards the end of next week.

The charge comes in the same week that Wayne Rooney escaped punishment for elbowing James McCarthy during United's 4-0 win at Wigan Athletic, but the two incidents are being treated separately. Likewise, Ferguson's reputation as a serial offender when it comes to criticising match officials has not come into the equation.

Richard Bevan, the chief executive of the League Managers' Association, defended Ferguson, saying he was entitled to be angered by Atkinson missing a foul by David Luiz on Rooney that should have earned the Chelsea defender a second yellow card.

"He [Ferguson] is a man who, since 1986, has been building high-performance teams and when mistakes are made he will get angry, and in the 76th minute that was a big mistake," Bevan said. "If you're going to interview managers after a game when so much is riding on these games, particularly a game of such high profile, then unfortunately you will get emotions going over."

With a strange sense of timing, the FA's announcement about Ferguson was followed 19 minutes later by a statement from Old Trafford that Michael Carrick had agreed a new contract until the end of the 2013-14 season.

Re: Baconface

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:05 am
by Alioune DVToure
Who would want to look at that cock-nosed, chops-for-cheeks, whiskey-sozzled, rancid old cunt anyway? A blessing in disguise for all munes snide enough to have subscribed to MUTV.

Re: Baconface

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:11 am
by The Man In Blue
The less chance I have of inadvertently seeing the cunt, or hearing anything he has to say at all the better.

Re: Baconface

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:49 pm
by Dingus McDouchey
if he gets banned, at least gary neville will have one mate in the stands.

Re: Baconface

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:37 pm
by Goataldo
I sometimes wonder whether or not he actually believes what he says, or whether he is just some maniacal puppet master, playing everyone off in some diabolical fucked up strategy.

He takes being a twat to such a level that I have to question whether it's real or not.

A neck you just wouldn't tire of wringing.

Re: Baconface

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:21 pm
by Alioune DVToure
Dingus McDouchey wrote:if he gets banned, at least gary neville will have one mate in the stands.


More like his eco-friendly hillside warren in Bolton, the weird little rat-faced cunt.

Re: Baconface

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:25 pm
by Ted Hughes
Alioune DVToure wrote:
Dingus McDouchey wrote:if he gets banned, at least gary neville will have one mate in the stands.


More like his eco-friendly hillside warren in Bolton, the weird little rat-faced cunt.


I wonder if he can recycle shit at that house? Might be worth him inviting Bebe & Obertan round.

Re: Baconface

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:54 pm
by Mikhail Chigorin
Ted Hughes wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
Dingus McDouchey wrote:if he gets banned, at least gary neville will have one mate in the stands.


More like his eco-friendly hillside warren in Bolton, the weird little rat-faced cunt.


I wonder if he can recycle shit at that house? Might be worth him inviting Bebe & Obertan round.



Chuckle, chuckle.....and you didn't even mention Wes Brown.....

However, on a serious note, surely the FA have got to throw the book at Fergiescum and make an example of him because their failure to do so would open the floodgates to other managers saying whatever they wanted, whenever it suited them, but with more justification than this Scottish retard.

Re: Baconface

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:26 pm
by Bear60
I personally dont give a flying f--k about this at least we wont see the horrible c--t for a while.

Re: Baconface

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:45 pm
by Ted Hughes
It's strange that we almost accept this latest 'media blackout' as being normal, because we're so used to the pathetic, piss stained old wanker sulking like fuck when things don't go his way, that we don't fully notice just how fucking infantile is the behaviour of these people.

Imagine people in any other sport behaving like this? Ricky Ponting & the Aussie cricket team won't speak to anyone because they were disciplined for talking to the umpire, so that's it now, we're not talking to anyone? So there? Venus Williams is disciplined for throwing a wobbler over a line call, so that's it now, she's not speaking to any of you because you're all against her? It's all your fault?

Utd/Ferguson = pathetic bunch of spoiled fucking brats.

Re: Baconface

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:54 pm
by LookMumImOnMCF.net
Fair play to him.

Can you imagine 20 years in the job and the same hacks asking you the same questions every single week? Must get pretty tiresome.

Re: Baconface

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:29 am
by Dingus McDouchey
Yeah I bet it's really rough.

Re: Baconface

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:40 am
by Craig B
Funny how he's always available to chat when they've won a game - but suddenly shirks it when they've lost. He's just the biggest sore loser of them all. I listened to a bit of that Munich twat Ronni Irani on Talkshite as I was driving in today rambling on about the United fans will support the actions of him no matter what he does - I'm not sure if I agree with that personally. If I'd paid for RagTV and he choose to blank that as well I'd be wondering what I was paying the money for.

Re: Baconface

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:00 am
by psut1
He has now broke premier league rules, I wonder if anyone will complain, maybe we should bombard sky with complaints that we did not hear from them post match.

from the BBC web site
"The United manager did not talk to host broadcaster Sky Sports, radio rights holders TalkSport and the club's television channel MUTV.

His assistant Mike Phelan did not carry out his usual post-match engagements with the BBC.

The decision not to speak to the media was made before the game.

Should any of the media organisations complain to the Premier League, the governing body would be forced to act.

Ferguson has not given a post-match interview to the BBC since 2004 after a BBC Three documentary about his son Jason, who was then working as a football agent.

The Premier League was due to discuss Ferguson's BBC boycott, which is in contravention of its rules, late last year, but if any fines were imposed for his non-compliance they have yet to be made public.

However, it is believed no media organisation has ever lodged an official complaint over the issue."

Re: Baconface

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:51 am
by Dameerto
LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:Fair play to him.

Can you imagine 20 years in the job and the same hacks asking you the same questions every single week? Must get pretty tiresome.


How about 20 years of hearing the same crap from him and his 'mind games' in the press or on TV? That's what I call tiresome.

Re: Baconface

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:05 am
by Ted Hughes
psut1 wrote:He has now broke premier league rules, I wonder if anyone will complain, maybe we should bombard sky with complaints that we did not hear from them post match.

from the BBC web site
"The United manager did not talk to host broadcaster Sky Sports, radio rights holders TalkSport and the club's television channel MUTV.

His assistant Mike Phelan did not carry out his usual post-match engagements with the BBC.

The decision not to speak to the media was made before the game.

Should any of the media organisations complain to the Premier League, the governing body would be forced to act.

Ferguson has not given a post-match interview to the BBC since 2004 after a BBC Three documentary about his son Jason, who was then working as a football agent.

The Premier League was due to discuss Ferguson's BBC boycott, which is in contravention of its rules, late last year, but if any fines were imposed for his non-compliance they have yet to be made public.

However, it is believed no media organisation has ever lodged an official complaint over the issue."


So basically, the media are so far up Utd's arses they don't even complain in case they get on their bad side.

Re: Baconface

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:09 am
by Chinners
They ain't going to complain about a knighted subject are they, if they do that they know that they will never get spoken to again while he's still alive. Just shows the risible power he still weilds over football decisions in this country

Re: Baconface

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:11 am
by Original Dub
It doesn't suprise me that the media just let him be. Did anyone see that smug cunt on Sunday Supplement - the cunt that looks like something out of a Dracula spoof movie - kissing Baconface's arse for the whole programme?

It really was pathetic, but a great insight into the absolute amazing regard with which they hold this ignorant, immature cunt.

Re: Baconface

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:12 am
by Avalon
Strange as it may seem, I think he made the right decision. The FA needs to stop holding hands above their referees. Managers should be able to criticise a ref when he performs badly or made a terrible decision. If, in replays shown afterward, it shows the ref made the right decision, than fine, fine hime, ban him, whatever. If he's right, then the no harm done. The referee is human, so he has to accept he'll make mistakes. The FA doesn't do this and treats them like they're made of glass and can't take anything. Seriously, if Man City doesn't get a penalty that it should have and could have won a difficult match, Mancini should be able to tell the media that the ref mucked it up. Apparently freedom of speech doesn't apply in England if it means somebody's feelings might get hurt. With somebody's feelings I, of course, refer to 1 individual.

Re: Baconface

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:51 am
by john68
Avalon wrote:Strange as it may seem, I think he made the right decision. The FA needs to stop holding hands above their referees. Managers should be able to criticise a ref when he performs badly or made a terrible decision. If, in replays shown afterward, it shows the ref made the right decision, than fine, fine hime, ban him, whatever. If he's right, then the no harm done. The referee is human, so he has to accept he'll make mistakes. The FA doesn't do this and treats them like they're made of glass and can't take anything. Seriously, if Man City doesn't get a penalty that it should have and could have won a difficult match, Mancini should be able to tell the media that the ref mucked it up. Apparently freedom of speech doesn't apply in England if it means somebody's feelings might get hurt. With somebody's feelings I, of course, refer to 1 individual.


I agree about the FA acting all precious about the referees and officials. They should be available to the press to answer questions on their performance and decisions.
Along the same lines, a coach should not be able to dodge his public duty to the game either.
The likes of taggart ( and he is not alone) use the press when it suits them.