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I've seen us regress in playing style since Mancini came in, and for what, a similar points projection to what Hughes was taking us on. Mancini was meant to be somebody who could bring us on to the next level, take us somewhere we had always dreamed about. Yet here we are, stuggling to put performances in against lesser teams and then bottling it every time we play one of the supposed big clubs. And the only difference I can see between us now and through our previous manager is that we're fucking horrible to watch now yet still stumble on flattering to deceive and with a stronger bed of players.

Somebody said it perfectly in another thread and it's something that has been bugging me for the best part of a year, since the run in disappointment to last season - watching us is a chore now. I no longer wake up thinking "awesome, we've got a game today, can we catch up with those ahead of us". Now I get anxious everytime we have a game, now I spend more time worrying about what those below us are going to do. It reminds me of the days of hoping Coventry or Soton won't win so we can stay above the relegation zone. Mancini has brought me a fear of losing that he has brought to the club as a whole.

I don't see anything working for us. We're tighter at the back and that is something I'll give Mancini some credit for. But we're fucking dross to watch now, yet with a group of players that logistically should be good enough to take on the best around.

You'll all bite my head off for this. But I've never felt this depressed about watching City. Ever. Not even when Phil Neal was taking the piss.

I should be ecstatic about our day out at Wembley. But because of Mancini and the way he has us playing, I am fearful of what will happen. My gut instinct tells me we'll turn up and do fuck all for 80 minutes and then lose to a sloppy goal or two. And only then will he decide to go for it. This should be the greatest day in my generation's history (after 99), and instead the thought of that upcoming game fills me with nothing but trepidation and fear. I remember when supporting City was fun and no matter who we were up against, I knew we would always have a chance of doing something against the opposition. I don't have the feeling now, and I haven't since the moment Mancini stepped foot inside the club.

Excuse the badly written post, I've had a couple of sherberts to settle the anger so my thoughts are all over the place. But I really cannot take any more of this clown's input. He's destroying my club.

dont think youve said much wrong there mate, cant argue with any of it.

As I put in the match thread for the first time ever I was tempted to stay out on the allotment rather than watch the game. An odd feeling really considering us being in the top four still, just don't enjoy watching the 'cautious city' with negative tactics. The game was crying out for a change after 15 minutes of the 2nd half, not waiting till 15 minutes left.

Do I want him to go??, A difficult one I said give him till end of season so I will stick to it. What I do want however is change to how we approach our games and use of tactics.

We just lost away from home at Chelsea, and had as much chance to win the game as they did for the majority of the game. My view, today was not bad at all. I'm not disrespecting your view, but mine is that we need to stick with a manager for a season or two and see if that works better than changing every time we have a poor run.

ruralblue wrote:As I put in the match thread for the first time ever I was tempted to stay out on the allotment rather than watch the game. An odd feeling really considering us being in the top four still, just don't enjoy watching the 'cautious city' with negative tactics. The game was crying out for a change after 15 minutes of the 2nd half, not waiting till 15 minutes left.

Do I want him to go??, A difficult one I said give him till end of season so I will stick to it. What I do want however is change to how we approach our games and use of tactics.

I admire you, purely because you have an allotment.

Good post, too ;)

I totally agree with the OP Bobby is definately not the man to take us any higher than the last incumbent of the job.But at least the last incumbent had us attack and the football was a lot better to watch i will go as far as saying under Hughes with Silva in the team we could have pushed for the title.


Times up Bobby change tack or perish.

Sadly you've hit the nail on the head for me, I found myself silently screaming at the tele "attack attack" but we did fuck all. I was with some friends this afternoon and they were surprised how ambivalent I was about the game and it was really shocking cos' I was so accepting of the result.............where have we gone so wrong?

I was upset at the end of the game and didn't want to make a knee jerk statement,so,now i've had time to think,i'm even more convinced - he isn't the man for the job.

Given the resources available to him he simply hasn't delivered.Hughes would certainly have done no worse.

Completely agree with the 'hese not the right man for the job' but it would be stupid too sack him now and bring somebody else in, give him to the end of the season atleast imo.

You cannot sack someone at this stage of the season. The players have been hard-coded to play the current style for nearly 9 months now. You cannot flick a switch and play with a different style overnight. That would take a few weeks to instil on the training pitch by which time the season will be over.

We'll just have to live with it till summer and reassess then.

Patrick wrote:We just lost away from home at Chelsea, and had as much chance to win the game as they did for the majority of the game. My view, today was not bad at all. I'm not disrespecting your view, but mine is that we need to stick with a manager for a season or two and see if that works better than changing every time we have a poor run.

Seriously, I'm getting too old and knackered to wait and see if he gets any better. Sven's football was better, and so were his signings for far less money, and in those days we were happy to just finish in the top half of the table. Yes, Sven made mistakes, but not as huge as Mancini's. Any other club than City, Mancini would have bankrupted. He's been like a particularly stupid kid in a sweet shop. Sacking SGE was one of City's biggest mistakes of modern times, and Shinawatra's worst move. Our second worst mistake was hiring Mancini.

Patrick wrote:We just lost away from home at Chelsea, and had as much chance to win the game as they did for the majority of the game. My view, today was not bad at all. I'm not disrespecting your view, but mine is that we need to stick with a manager for a season or two and see if that works better than changing every time we have a poor run.

That's fair enough, and in essence, I'd agree 100%. For me personally though, I've never wanted us to sack a manager. Not Alan Ball, not Neal, not Clark, not Pearce. I've always believed something could be turned around. But I don't and never have had that feeling with Mancini. I always had the belief he was a lucky bastard with what he ended up with in Italy, and when he took over here I dreaded the future. I've always said I'll give him time, but in that time I have seen us turn from a club capable of swashbuckling the best to a team that is afraid to lose. I don't like that mentality. And given what is at stake for us as a club now the FFP rules are coming in and the fact we're at a very delicate moment what with our money and everybody else's lack of, we should be grasping this opportunity by the bollocks before it slips away. And unfortunately for me, I see it slipping away big time.

We gave up on the altruistic method of building an empire by flogging Hughes. Fair enough, but the idea was then to bring a modicum of quick success through Mancini. It isn't happening. And now we're staring down the barrel of being left behind by the other top runners, Spuds included. Our season and possibly short term future needs saving, and for me that would only happen by bringing in a new man to galvanise the troops.

All that shit in the press for the past 18 months about players disrespecting Mancini and Tevez especially not liking what's going on didn't come from nowhere. We got the siege mentality and thought everybody was out to get us, but look where we are now. We've gotten rid of our game changing players and now everybody is doing as they're told, the way Mancini wants it. All those stories may have been embellished a fair bit by the press, but the longer time goes on, the more weight seems to be added to the rumours of our players disliking playing under him. It's like they've finally had the fire and spirit beaten out of them.

I don't know, I'm just really fucking angry right now and I've felt angry for quite a number of months with everything City. I have never ever felt the way I feel right now about us and the worrying thing for me is I just don't see where this anger will stop. I long for the days of having hope. I just don't have that shit anymore.

KinkyKinkladze wrote: For me personally though, I've never wanted us to sack a manager. Not Alan Ball, not Neal, not Clark, not Pearce.

I was desperate for all of those managers to be sacked. They were hurting our club and needed to go!

absolutely spot on. don't get excited about matchdays the way i did last season. results wise he's the same as hughes, just does it in a far more boring lifeless fashion. he may get us top 4 but if anyone thinks he'll take us to the next level (winning the league, champs league etc) they are are deluded and mad. i just said to my flatmate there's no point in us getting into champions league to bore europe, when spurs have thrilled everyone and scouse have entertained in it whenever they're in there. do the right thing roberto.

Never have I asked for a manager to be sacked but iv had a belly full of Mancini. The guy has zero bottle and I am seriously concerned about where we are heading. Don't think iv ever felt this way as a blue before but he is making me loose interest. God bring back the days of being skint and expecting nothing as that was far easier to take.

Dronny wrote:Sadly you've hit the nail on the head for me, I found myself silently screaming at the tele "attack attack" but we did fuck all. I was with some friends this afternoon and they were surprised how ambivalent I was about the game and it was really shocking cos' I was so accepting of the result.............where have we gone so wrong?

Same here. Under Mancini there was no way we were going to win today. For a long time, it looked like we'd get the draw I was expecting, then Chelsea moved up half a gear when they realised we posed no threat whatsoever.

With these disinterested, unmotivated, bored players, how can we expect to turn things around and beat the Rags in the semi-final? At the moment we have a much lesser chance than under Kevin Keegan with his team of ageing journeymen. I'd seriously expect Trevor Sinclair, Pointer, and Macken to do a better job.

Couldnt be arsed reading anything after the first sentence but i take it from your kneejerk reaction that you'll be going to wembley though?

While I don't believe in his tactics, I believe that he should be given time. We're still a work in progress and I would give him one more season.

MaineRoadMemories wrote:You cannot sack someone at this stage of the season. The players have been hard-coded to play the current style for nearly 9 months now. You cannot flick a switch and play with a different style overnight. That would take a few weeks to instil on the training pitch by which time the season will be over.

We'll just have to live with it till summer and reassess then.

This is true.

All the time though, I've been arguing against Bob going, even if he doesn't get top 4 but the proviso is that we look like we're going somewhere. That's even more important to me than top 4. At the moment, I can't say we are progressing.

Hopefully he'll drive away any doubts in the coming weeks.

PoC wrote:Couldnt be arsed reading anything after the first sentence but i take it from your kneejerk reaction that you'll be going to wembley though?

I remember that day in your signature of Adebayor scoring that goal.

Seems like a lifetime ago.