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Can anyone honestly explain the reasoning behind getting rid of him? We're all bemoaning the lack of, variously, pace determination spirit and aggression. Also, history of fucked knees he had, I'm struggling to remember watching Bellamy playing and thinking "Christ he looks fucked".

I swear I will never understand that decision as long as I live.

i think he just didnt get on with mancini
missed him big time today though as we could have caused them a lot more problems on the break.
will never play here as long as mancini is in charge,
saying all that i do not think he is exactly setting world on fire in the championship

sweeneymcfc wrote:saying all that i do not think he is exactly setting world on fire in the championship

True, but we're not Cardiff. He fitted into that 433 system so well last year. Tevez seemed to love playing with him, and said so. On a more selfish level I loved watching him play.

Surely Mancini could have sorted a professional relationship with him for the sake of the team, because we have really missed him imo.

totally agree with you bellers was probably my favourite player along with de jong and yes he did fit our system well
however its mancinis choice and he will succeed or fail by decisions like letting bellamy go

There was no long term future with Bellamy. What's the point of building a team around him when he's already fading. Short term, he'd be effective this season, but what about the longer term with his knackered knees and his cherrypicking matches because he can't play every week.

Mancini has been moving towards a smaller younger squad. There have been one or two exceptions like Steven Ireland but in general we're a younger, less experienced squad.

ronk wrote:There was no long term future with Bellamy. What's the point of building a team around him when he's already fading. Short term, he'd be effective this season, but what about the longer term with his knackered knees and his cherrypicking matches because he can't play every week.

Mancini has been moving towards a smaller younger squad. There have been one or two exceptions like Steven Ireland but in general we're a younger, less experienced squad.

That would be a perfectly feasible explaination if it wasn't for the fact that Bellamy was only signed in the 1st place to help us through a few seasons & do exactly the job that we've been absolutely desperate for someone to do all season & indeed were desperate for when Tevez was injured today, when Johnson was injured recently & when Balotelli was injured before that. All positions Bellamy could have filled better than any of the people who've tried to fill them.

Add to that the fact that Bob brought in Vieira to do the very same job in midfield & it knocks that idea right out of the window really. It's a monumental, historic, fuck up of such crass, selfish, stupidity that whoever is responsible is lucky to stil be in a job.

All of a sudden I'm asking myself a question I've not asked for a long time, which is "Who is going to score us the goals in the last 8 games or so?"

We loaned out bellers and replaced him with balo wtf is that about. They both are hot headed but atleast we could trust bellers to out a shift in when it matters. Balo could be great but we can't wait on ifs and buts. For the first time mancio out all the way.

We loaned out bellers and replaced him with balo wtf is that about. They both are hot headed but atleast we could trust bellers to out a shift in when it matters. Balo could be great but we can't wait on ifs and buts. For the first time mancio out all the way.

Bellamy was here last season when the season faded out to nothing. He contributed to that by going missing in big games that mattered. I liked him, but let's not get the rose tinted glasses on and believe he would be the answer. He was here and he wasn't.

Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Bellamy was here last season when the season faded out to nothing. He contributed to that by going missing in big games that mattered. I liked him, but let's not get the rose tinted glasses on and believe he would be the answer. He was here and he wasn't.

Half of his 10 goals from the left wing came against Arsenal, Chelsea and Man Utd. He was the one player who held shape, had pace to scare opponents and more importantly, looked for the pass instead of going for a ridiculous shot, albeit he was capable of scoring from a ridiculous shot(Chelsea-Impossible angle), Man Utd(Cracker from 25 yards). But if a pass was a better option, he took it and how many times this season have we missed out on goals while having attackers standing in acres of space because our strikers are too damn selfish to even contemplate another option.

I realise people want to believe we made the right move here, but we haven't, and if we look at the loanee's we have out at the moment, Bellamy>Balotelli, Onuoha>Boateng, Onuoha>Kolarov, Adebayor>Dzeko. If people want to buy into the fact that they were disruptive to the dressingroom and Mancini didn't see eye to eye with them, well maybe that just says more about the man management skills of Mancini, if only that wasn't the entire description of his job...oh wait, IT IS.

Best results last season(4-2 Chelsea, 6-1 Burnley, 5-1 Birmingham) came with playing 4-4-2 and having Bellamy as a major influence on the games. He's a match winner and you can never have too many of them.

Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:He contributed to that by going missing in big games that mattered.

really?

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It's in the timing Ant. I'm counting the run in as from Burnley on. Ha ha. Spurs, and the Filth game spring to mind. If you recall after battering Burnley, we were in a thoroughly excellent position.

The reason(s) bellamy left us i think are twofold and nothing to do with his playing ability on the pitch.First is that he was apparently trouble behind the scenes.I can only assume he was undermining the manager in some way and was deemed to be a problem in terms of team spirit.Second and of course linked to the first one Mancini couldnt handle him.Man management doesnt seem to be top of Mancini's skills so best get rid.

I definitely fall into the pro Bellamy camp but I actually didn't have a great problem with him being let go if indeed he was undermining the manager and affecting or likely to affect the team spirit as long as we had suitable cover for the position and/or plans to change the style of play to suit what we had.In reality we haven't had cover for his role as surely Mario can't be considered as that person?

If Bellers had stayed there is no way he would have "had the team built around him", what a ridiculous statement that is. But he would have been a great asset to have even if not a regular and coming of the bench more than starting games. A bit like AJ has been used.

we have missed him all season. so incredibly stupid to let him go. he might of had a mouth on him but then we go and replace him with the biggest lunatic in world football.

people bang on about his 'fucked' knees. i cant remember any time when he was out for a long period with us.

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:The reason(s) bellamy left us i think are twofold and nothing to do with his playing ability on the pitch.First is that he was apparently trouble behind the scenes.I can only assume he was undermining the manager in some way and was deemed to be a problem in terms of team spirit.Second and of course linked to the first one Mancini couldnt handle him.Man management doesnt seem to be top of Mancini's skills so best get rid.

I definitely fall into the pro Bellamy camp but I actually didn't have a great problem with him being let go if indeed he was undermining the manager and affecting or likely to affect the team spirit as long as we had suitable cover for the position and/or plans to change the style of play to suit what we had.In reality we haven't had cover for his role as surely Mario can't be considered as that person?

If Bellers had stayed there is no way he would have "had the team built around him", what a ridiculous statement that is. But he would have been a great asset to have even if not a regular and coming of the bench more than starting games. A bit like AJ has been used.

I think Doug sums it up nicely. I miss Bellamy but he did fade at the end of last season and was not as effective as at the start of the season.
For me the most stupid thing that Bob did was loaoning out Ade and replacing him with Dzeko.

Ade wasn't utilised enough. There was no need to keep him on the sidelines. Sure he had his faults but he is a decent proven Prem striker. Dzeko was/is a risk to bring in. Mancini has also marginalised Shaun, surely his pace could be usefully deployed. I know A J was being called for yesterday, but I also believe that Swp would have been a far better option than Milner on the right. Shaun never shirks his defensive responsibility and on his day can beat players and make things happen. Milner never will.
Add in that Carlos's relationship with Bob is reportedly going to cost us his services. Now Tevez's bleating does get on my nerves and no player can be more important than the club, but it is irritating to be losing so much attacking talent and replacing it with little, resulting in our turgid one paced, one dimensional threat.
If what Bob was doing was working, then it would be easier to stomach...but it isn't.

People can say what they want but we do miss Bellamy.

Douglas Higginbottom wrote: I actually didn't have a great problem with him being let go if indeed he was undermining the manager and affecting or likely to affect the team spirit as long as we had suitable cover for the position and/or plans to change the style of play to suit what we had.In reality we haven't had cover for his role as surely Mario can't be considered as that person?

And there is the key point. If Bob has a problem with Bellamy, SIGN A REPLACEMENT & get rid, not get rid & stick Jo on the wing.

Ted Hughes wrote:

Douglas Higginbottom wrote: I actually didn't have a great problem with him being let go if indeed he was undermining the manager and affecting or likely to affect the team spirit as long as we had suitable cover for the position and/or plans to change the style of play to suit what we had.In reality we haven't had cover for his role as surely Mario can't be considered as that person?

And there is the key point. If Bob has a problem with Bellamy, SIGN A REPLACEMENT & get rid, not get rid & stick Jo on the wing.

It took a little while of persevering with Jo didn't it but where has he gone in the last 6 weeks or so.