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Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:49 am
by johnny crossan
"The deal Man City did with Cardiff was for them to pay a lot of my wages but if we got promoted, they would have to buy me. It sounded romantic in August but if we look at it money-wise, it's probably not going to happen.

"It is difficult because I do have another year at Man City. I could be there the whole year and not be involved. It would not be ideal for anyone if that happens. It certainly wouldn't be ideal for them.

"I will have to be at Man City because I have a year left, but it will be an uncomfortable situation for everyone really, if Mancini is still in charge.

"There's nothing I can do. He is the manager. He chooses the squad - and rightly so."

Bellamy added: "You never know whether it could still work out for me there. It all depends who you are working with. That's the key.

"If it was [Jose] Mourinho, you don't see many players who can't work with him or he can't revive. Or Harry Redknapp. Certain managers have that gift."


except Balo it seems

http://www.teamtalk.com/cardiff-city/68 ... not-ideal-?

Re: Craig's Not Happy

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:51 am
by Niall Quinns Discopants
Can that fool not fucking shut up for a second. He went years and years how playing for Cardiff was his dream. then when we GIFTED him the fucking chance, he keeps mouthing off.

This is like when Newcastle got kicked off FA Cup while he was on loan in Celtic and he started sticking up two fingers from distance.

Re: Craig's Not Happy

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:53 am
by Slim
If they get promoted, I don't think they have a choice.

Re: Craig's Not Happy

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:55 am
by Blue Blood
Slim wrote:If they get promoted, I don't think they have a choice.


They don't, they HAVE to buy Bellers.

It was main reason why we agreed the deal in the first place.

Frankly though i'd love him back atm, team needs a kick up the arse!

Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:59 am
by Avalon
He's been courting with a move to Feyenoord. He says he's in love with the fans and the stadium and there's footage available of Feyenoord fans traveling to Cardiff handing him a Feyenoord shirt and then cheering for him in a match. If Cardiff cannot buy him, what will happen to his contract? Will he be a free agent?

Re: Craig's Not Happy

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:01 am
by Original Dub
Well there's no arguing there - he's not a Mancini type of player. Too fast for starters.

He really does twist the knife there though doesn't he?! I wonder what we'd be like if Hughes had kept on building as he had started... a year and a quarter on - building on the way he wanted us to play.

I wonder would we have kept on drawing with another hundred odd million spent? Not likely IMO, but it is only my opinion so please don't lose the head.

There's a few reasons I don't like Mancini and haven't for a while:

Getting rid of Bellamy
Playing negative, boring dross quite a lot
Aggitating Tevez to the point where he was freaking out on and off the pitch
Getting rid of Ade
Getting in Platt
Turning us into the slowest team in the league
Harping on about the congested fixture list

I reckon, if he gets us fourth spot, Mourinho would come and at this stage everything seems to point towards him... except Mrio Balotelli :)

Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:10 am
by Mike J
i want him back. fucking stupidity to get rid of him.

Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:28 am
by Goaters 103
Bellamy rocks the boat shocker - last seen at Coventry, Newcastle, Liverpool, City etc etc

Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:59 am
by Ted Hughes
Goaters 103 wrote:Bellamy rocks the boat shocker - last seen at Coventry, Newcastle, Liverpool, City etc etc



Erm, he hasn't rocked the boat, he's not even IN the fucking boat.

He plays for Cardiff ffs, not City. If a fucking Cardiff player can rock our boat then the fucking thing is sinking & the captain's a wanker.

Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:20 am
by Chinners
Bit harsh on Tevez that Ted!

Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:25 am
by Goaters 103
Ted Hughes wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:Bellamy rocks the boat shocker - last seen at Coventry, Newcastle, Liverpool, City etc etc



Erm, he hasn't rocked the boat, he's not even IN the fucking boat.

He plays for Cardiff ffs, not City. If a fucking Cardiff player can rock our boat then the fucking thing is sinking & the captain's a wanker.


Jesus, the ships sinking cos Bellamy - only slighter bitter because he's been turfed out, says so. If 4 points clear in 4th spot and a Cup Semi-Final is a sinking ship, then fuck me I wish Id seen far more of them over the past 30 odd years.

As far as I know, Bellamy is still owned by City. That puts him in our employ and "our boat" until otherwise, and he is (as usual) creating a stir.

On Mancini, Im not his biggest fan by any means but getting on his back and calling for his head at this stage of the season, with 8 Prem games and a Cup semi to go, will achieve what exactly?

Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:33 am
by Slim
Goaters 103 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:Bellamy rocks the boat shocker - last seen at Coventry, Newcastle, Liverpool, City etc etc



Erm, he hasn't rocked the boat, he's not even IN the fucking boat.

He plays for Cardiff ffs, not City. If a fucking Cardiff player can rock our boat then the fucking thing is sinking & the captain's a wanker.


Jesus, the ships sinking cos Bellamy - only slighter bitter because he's been turfed out, says so. If 4 points clear in 4th spot and a Cup Semi-Final is a sinking ship, then fuck me I wish Id seen far more of them over the past 30 odd years.

As far as I know, Bellamy is still owned by City. That puts him in our employ and "our boat" until otherwise, and he is (as usual) creating a stir.

On Mancini, Im not his biggest fan by any means but getting on his back and calling for his head at this stage of the season, with 8 Prem games and a Cup semi to go, will achieve what exactly?


When Pearce took over we had what, 9 games left? We rocketed up the league from 12th to 8th(Fowler fuckup off 7th and Europe).

Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:39 am
by Goaters 103
Slim wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:Bellamy rocks the boat shocker - last seen at Coventry, Newcastle, Liverpool, City etc etc



Erm, he hasn't rocked the boat, he's not even IN the fucking boat.

He plays for Cardiff ffs, not City. If a fucking Cardiff player can rock our boat then the fucking thing is sinking & the captain's a wanker.


Jesus, the ships sinking cos Bellamy - only slighter bitter because he's been turfed out, says so. If 4 points clear in 4th spot and a Cup Semi-Final is a sinking ship, then fuck me I wish Id seen far more of them over the past 30 odd years.

As far as I know, Bellamy is still owned by City. That puts him in our employ and "our boat" until otherwise, and he is (as usual) creating a stir.

On Mancini, Im not his biggest fan by any means but getting on his back and calling for his head at this stage of the season, with 8 Prem games and a Cup semi to go, will achieve what exactly?


When Pearce took over we had what, 9 games left? We rocketed up the league from 12th to 8th(Fowler fuckup off 7th and Europe).


Different situation. There was absolutely no pressure on Pearce, he wasnt even the permanent boss at the time, nor did he have to handle to level of players and ego's a new guy would have to deal with coming in at this stage. City were also stuck in mid-table nothingness, with absolutely no expectation at all.

Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:44 am
by Piccsnumberoneblue
Shouldn't it follow that with better players it should be easier to coax some performances out of them. Pearce got a load of old dross winning, albeit temporarily.

Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:27 am
by Douglas Higginbottom
Is Craig right?

Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:33 am
by petrov
Lets jump down Bellamys throat and only post the parts of the interview that creates a good bashing session

If it was [Jose] Mourinho, you don't see many players who can't work with him or he can't revive. Or Harry Redknapp. Certain managers have that gift.
"I enjoyed everything about Manchester City. Success is inevitable there and what a great time it is to be a City supporter. I felt that as a player. What a great time to be at this club.
"To see what was happening there was just incredible. To watch players walking in through the door who have just been signed for £30million. Training was lifted again. If you could cope with it, you had to step up.
"Getting that drive and buzz every day was everything I have ever wanted in football. Every morning, you knew you were going to learn something new from the players you were with. If you weren't at it, you would get the ball taken off you in two seconds.
"It was a great time for me in my career - what a great time to be at a special club."

cause this part never happened, I dreamed it and made it up and Bellamy really hates us.

Re: Craig's Not Happy

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:00 pm
by s1ty m
Original Dub wrote:Well there's no arguing there - he's not a Mancini type of player. Too fast for starters.

He really does twist the knife there though doesn't he?! I wonder what we'd be like if Hughes had kept on building as he had started... a year and a quarter on - building on the way he wanted us to play.

I wonder would we have kept on drawing with another hundred odd million spent? Not likely IMO, but it is only my opinion so please don't lose the head.

There's a few reasons I don't like Mancini and haven't for a while:

Getting rid of Bellamy
Playing negative, boring dross quite a lot
Aggitating Tevez to the point where he was freaking out on and off the pitch
Getting rid of Ade
Getting in Platt
Turning us into the slowest team in the league
Harping on about the congested fixture list


I reckon, if he gets us fourth spot, Mourinho would come and at this stage everything seems to point towards him... except Mrio Balotelli :)


Maybe adding in:

Buying Kolarov
Buying Boateng
Buying Balotelli
Buying Dzeko
Having zero courage
Making odd substitutions
Being no better than the last guy, who's side at least entertained us

It becomes a long list very quickly, IMHO.

Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:05 pm
by Hazy2
Bellamy/Tevez/Kompany/De Jong every team needs grit and skill all 4 have it,we miss the fire and pace Bellers brought if Roberto cannot manage Bellers then he should have made sure it was done, we would be out of signht of Spurs and Chelsea, I dare say we could have won the league with more players like Bellamy, what we have is passive attitudes, Bellamy was outstanding for us and no dressing it up will convince me we fucked up letting him go. It is bollocks to suggest we are better off without him.

Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:11 pm
by dick dastardley
if he doesnt want to come back let him buy out his contract and negotiate with any club hes wants!!! at 31 and injury prone i wouldnt want bellers back, saying that i love the guys bottle and backbone, some of the players at city at the moment need to take a look at themselves for bottle and commitment

Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:19 pm
by bigblue
You can see why he's been at 9 different clubs in his career. Just collect your wages and shut it