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Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:05 pm
by Niall Quinns Discopants
No, this is not about Lahm.

As so many times before, we are having long and winded discussion about the use of the word. I wanted to set up a poll to see how the majority feel.

For what it's worth, I'm cool with it as long as the chant is witty.

Re: Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:15 pm
by lets all have a disco
I'd rather it not be used but there is fuck all i can do to stop it and i tend to opt out as it does get the media going,the song last night could easily have Stretford,Trafford,Salford,Cockneys in it's place and piss them off just as much.

Re: Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:16 pm
by BlueinBosnia
Just out of curiosity, are Munich-themed usernames allowed on this site? I don't ever recall seeing a poster having one.

Re: Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:21 pm
by Chinners
I really don't care either way ...

Re: Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:29 pm
by Slim
Don't care, am not buying that anyone else does either.

Re: Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:46 pm
by Kladze
It makes me puke. As do proclamations of wanting Taggart (etc) dead.

It may be tribal, and we may take it seriously, but when all is said and done football is still just a game FFS.

Re: Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:53 pm
by sirgordonzola
i have been guilty in the past, but thats before i really understood what happened that afternoon in munich, i hope it fades away eventually, but i cant see it, but it wont come from my mouth again ever.

Re: Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:58 pm
by Rag_hater
Kladze wrote:It makes me puke. As do proclamations of wanting Taggart (etc) dead.

It may be tribal, and we may take it seriously, but when all is said and done football is still just a game FFS.


A touch OTT but generally the right sentiments for me.

Re: Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:06 pm
by Mike J
hate it. absolutely no place for it imo. just because they sing about heysel and hillsbrough doesnt mean we should lower ourselves to that level as well.

surely there are other ways of winding teams up other than singing about a tragedy.

Re: Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:08 pm
by Sister of fu
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:No, this is not about Lahm.

As so many times before, we are having long and winded discussion about the use of the word. I wanted to set up a poll to see how the majority feel.

For what it's worth, I'm cool with it as long as the chant is witty.



Serious question. How can a song about people dying in a plane crash be witty?

Re: Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:12 pm
by MARKMAKAVELI
Hate it. Whatever the reason for using it. Instead i sing Carlos tevez is a blue, he hates tulips.

No offence to any keen gardeners who like tulips.

Re: Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:13 pm
by roblues
Sister of fu wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:No, this is not about Lahm.

As so many times before, we are having long and winded discussion about the use of the word. I wanted to set up a poll to see how the majority feel.

For what it's worth, I'm cool with it as long as the chant is witty.



Serious question. How can a song about people dying in a plane crash be witty?


When it is actually a song about people dying in a plane crash, it can't. The one that has seemingly sparked this poll wasn't, in the opinions of many.

Re: Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:23 pm
by Niall Quinns Discopants
Sister of fu wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:No, this is not about Lahm.

As so many times before, we are having long and winded discussion about the use of the word. I wanted to set up a poll to see how the majority feel.

For what it's worth, I'm cool with it as long as the chant is witty.



Serious question. How can a song about people dying in a plane crash be witty?


There are Munich songs and songs that refers to rags as Munes though.

Re: Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:28 pm
by simon12
I couldn`t give a toss either way plus I like that it annoys them.

Re: Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:31 pm
by Kladze
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Sister of fu wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:No, this is not about Lahm.

As so many times before, we are having long and winded discussion about the use of the word. I wanted to set up a poll to see how the majority feel.

For what it's worth, I'm cool with it as long as the chant is witty.



Serious question. How can a song about people dying in a plane crash be witty?


There are Munich songs and songs that refers to rags as Munes though.


Referring to a United supporter as a Mune (Munich) is, by definition, referring back to the event which makes it possible to refer to him or her as a Mune. And thereby diminishing the loss of life and terrible injuries suffered.

I was only one year old when the tragedy happened but my older brother (a City fan) waited outside Old Trafford for hours for news to filter through - he wasn't alone, many City fans were there and many City fans also lined the streets as the bodies were brought home.

Re: Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:34 pm
by SORTED
Out of habit I sometimes still refer to their fans as Munichs; I don't sing about it now...I grew up on the Kippax singing about snow, people dying on runways and the like but I was a kid then so knew no better.

Re: Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:00 pm
by Alioune DVToure
None of the options actually summarise my feelings on this.

It's shocking taste in the wrong context (i.e., aeroplane gestures, WTLOTR) but can be good banter in private when among friends. I use the term 'muneboy' to take the piss out of my red mates but would never utter the word in a context that I knew to be GENUINELY upsetting or offensive to someone.

I bet most of those saying that it has no place in a civilised society have texted someone a joke about a celebrity death or a natural disaster in their time.

If you haven't then fair enough - I'll hold my hands up and say you're a better person than I am.

Finally, I don't understand why some people think that we as fans need to reach a consensus over such things, and can't listen to a contrary opinion without getting wound up and insulting (twosips, por ejemplo).

Re: Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:01 pm
by ant london
If I am completely honest. I couldn't care less about those who died at Munich, I'm sure it was all very sad at the time and I know that football (and the City - United rivalry in particular) wasn't so tribal back then so I'm sure it was felt across a broad spectrum of football fans and normal folk. But do I, in 2011, really care about the "tragedy" of it. No I don't.

As I've said before, I have never sung Munich songs at a match and don't think I would.

As football fans, and rival fans though United deserve no respect from us whatsoever. I have many close friends who are reds. I like them as people but cannot fucking abide them as football fans. They hate it when we drop the Munich bomb......like nothing else. It is petty it is distasteful but it is effective and I don't really care whether some delicate flowers amongst us don't like it

Re: Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:06 pm
by freshie
ant london wrote:If I am completely honest. I couldn't care less about those who died at Munich, I'm sure it was all very sad at the time and I know that football (and the City - United rivalry in particular) wasn't so tribal back then so I'm sure it was felt across a broad spectrum of football fans and normal folk. But do I, in 2011, really care about the "tragedy" of it. No I don't.

As I've said before, I have never sung Munich songs at a match and don't think I would.

As football fans, and rival fans though United deserve no respect from us whatsoever. I have many close friends who are reds. I like them as people but cannot fucking abide them as football fans. They hate it when we drop the Munich bomb......like nothing else. It is petty it is distasteful but it is effective and I don't really care whether some delicate flowers amongst us don't like it


Top bombing

Re: Munich Poll

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:09 pm
by carl_feedthegoat
BTW if anyones interested the Munichs are currently drawing against Schalke.