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Elite Players-Managers

PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:24 am
by CitizenYank
With the return of King Kenny to Liverpool and the success Sir Roberto has been having with City, a question
has popped into my head: How many successful players at elite level clubs have also gone on to have similar
success managing at the highest level of play? (Either club or country is fine)


Here are a few from my own limited sports knowledge: (Wikipedia)

[Including the above]

Franz Beckenbauer: Bayern-Munich (Bundeslegia) 1994 (UEFA Cup) 1996 West Germany (WC) 1990

Johan Cryuff: Ajax (KNVB Cup) 1986, 1987 (UEFA Cup Winner's Cup) 1987

Barcelona (La Liga) 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 European Cup: 1992


(Although Mancini didn't feature in as much international competition as the others: I doubt this was because of his lack of talent. more an unfortunate run-in with national team politics.) Remember if a player repeats his elite level of success coaching for high club play or at international level, that is all I am looking for.

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:26 am
by the_georgian_genius
Guardiola

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:29 am
by CitizenYank
Ahhhh!!! Can't believe I forgot that one. Forgot he played on the 1992 Barca team.

Re: Elite Players-Managers

PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:30 am
by Kladze
Van Gaal
Capello
Dunga
Ancelotti

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:35 am
by Kladze
Reijkard

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:35 am
by the_georgian_genius
Kladze wrote:Van Gaal
Capello
Dunga
Ancelotti


Dunga? Hardly had success as a manager.

Re: Elite Players-Managers

PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:38 am
by Kladze
the_georgian_genius wrote:
Kladze wrote:Van Gaal
Capello
Dunga
Ancelotti


Dunga? Hardly had success as a manager.


True enough - for some reason I was thinking he'd managed a world cup winning team - he only skippered one :-D
I'm more tired than I think I am

Re: Elite Players-Managers

PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:42 am
by the_georgian_genius
Kladze wrote:
the_georgian_genius wrote:
Kladze wrote:Van Gaal
Capello
Dunga
Ancelotti


Dunga? Hardly had success as a manager.


True enough - for some reason I was thinking he'd managed a world cup winning team - he only skippered one :-D
I'm more tired than I think I am


Was going to add Ancellotti myself until i read again that it was an elite player, otherwise you could add Rikyard in there aswell.

One that always amazed me is Brian Clough, what a record he had as a goalscorer, his success as manager overshadowed his stunning career that was cut short by injury.

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:06 am
by Dingus McDouchey
Steve Bruce

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:19 am
by bigblue
Ian Holloway

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 4:07 am
by john@staustell
Alan Ball

Image

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:57 am
by Chinners
Hoddle ... he did well at Chelsea before getting the England job

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 12:41 pm
by Mike J
CitizenYank wrote:With the return of King Kenny to Liverpool and the success Sir Roberto has been having with City, a question
has popped into my head: How many successful players at elite level clubs have also gone on to have similar
success managing at the highest level of play? (Either club or country is fine)


Here are a few from my own limited sports knowledge: (Wikipedia)

[Including the above]

Franz Beckenbauer: Bayern-Munich (Bundeslegia) 1994 (UEFA Cup) 1996 West Germany (WC) 1990

Johan Cryuff: Ajax (KNVB Cup) 1986, 1987 (UEFA Cup Winner's Cup) 1987

Barcelona (La Liga) 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 European Cup: 1992


(Although Mancini didn't feature in as much international competition as the others: I doubt this was because of his lack of talent. more an unfortunate run-in with national team politics.) Remember if a player repeats his elite level of success coaching for high club play or at international level, that is all I am looking for.


mancini's certainly wasnt lack of talent [youtube]KtyYzVefeRc[/youtube]

Re: Elite Players-Managers

PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 5:31 pm
by nick (duki blues)
Current spanish national team manager vicente del bosque-what about this for a record
As a player he won 5 spanish league titles in a row with real madrid also 4 copa del ray titles
As manager of real he won -the intercontinental cup (1)
the champions league (2)
the uefa super cup (1)
La liga (2)
the spanish super cup (1)
Copa iberoamericana (1)
and as spanish national team coach-1 world cup i dont think hes done a bad job really

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 5:42 pm
by gaudy
nice youtube clip but at 3 13 is that jay leno in the left hand corner!

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 7:14 pm
by Ted Hughes
Matt Busby.

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 2:42 am
by Ruthless
Ted Hughes wrote:Matt Busby.



Yep the dirty cunt also achieved greatness in my book by gettin that plane to fuck up whilst sneakily getting out ok job well done you could learn from this lad Fergiescum are you watchin? You get your own statue n everythin

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:22 am
by Kladze
Ruthless wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Matt Busby.



Yep the dirty cunt also achieved greatness in my book by gettin that plane to fuck up whilst sneakily getting out ok job well done you could learn from this lad Fergiescum are you watchin? You get your own statue n everythin


???
What kind of shit is that?

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:42 am
by john@staustell
Chinners wrote:Hoddle ... he did well at Chelsea before getting the England job


He did well at Swindon too. In fact when I've seen him on telly lately he talks sound, common sense.

It just went a bit wrong with England, Gazza and all that Eileen Drury nonsense.

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:52 am
by john68
With regard to the Hoddle issue, it wasn't football reasons that caused him to lose the England job.
For whatever reason, it was the media that dictated what happened to Hoddle.
...and for the record, his spiritual beliefs were well known and had been reported quite non judgementally, on many occasions previously. The media just chose the time and the vehemence to have him hanged, drawn and ridiculed.