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Apparently we are very, very close to agreeing a season-long loan deal for Vlad the Impaler at Espanyol with whom, and I didn't know this, we have some sort of formal co-operation agreement from a few months ago.

We give them a first choice of loan players (apparently Bellers, Neddy etc) and they have taken us up on Weiss.

If the deal is completed it will be for one season with the option of purchase at the end. City MAY help them a little with the wages, and there is still the possibility of another player being loaned to Espanyol.

Weiss said that he would have liked to stay in Glasgow, but then he had a chat with Bobby. Mancini basically said that the Scottish league is a load of shite and he would like him to play in Spain or Germany for a whole season before making a final decision on him.

Have fun, Vlad.

http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/espanyo ... 9710.shtml

He's got the ability & the athleticism. He just hasn't got a fucking clue how to play the game. He was learning absolutely nothing there. This should give him a better idea of how to play football & we can see whether he responds or not.

john@staustell wrote:Apparently we are very, very close to agreeing a season-long loan deal for Vlad the Impaler at Espanyol with whom, and I didn't know this, we have some sort of formal co-operation agreement from a few months ago.

We give them a first choice of loan players (apparently Bellers, Neddy etc) and they have taken us up on Weiss.

If the deal is completed it will be for one season with the option of purchase at the end. City MAY help them a little with the wages, and there is still the possibility of another player being loaned to Espanyol.

Weiss said that he would have liked to stay in Glasgow, but then he had a chat with Bobby. Mancini basically said that the Scottish league is a load of shite and he would like him to play in Spain or Germany for a whole season before making a final decision on him.
Have fun, Vlad.

http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/espanyo ... 9710.shtml

Something doesn't add up here. Mancini wouldn't be making any sort of decisions over him but Espanyol would. And they'd make exact opposite decisiont that would be best for us.

Fuck these "option to purchase in the end of loan" deals. Caicedo is not my favourite but we are already losing tons of money because of that option. And what's the point anyway? If he is shit they'll send the player back, if he is good they buy him for peanuts. Yeah, that sounds good.

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

john@staustell wrote:Apparently we are very, very close to agreeing a season-long loan deal for Vlad the Impaler at Espanyol with whom, and I didn't know this, we have some sort of formal co-operation agreement from a few months ago.

We give them a first choice of loan players (apparently Bellers, Neddy etc) and they have taken us up on Weiss.

If the deal is completed it will be for one season with the option of purchase at the end. City MAY help them a little with the wages, and there is still the possibility of another player being loaned to Espanyol.

Weiss said that he would have liked to stay in Glasgow, but then he had a chat with Bobby. Mancini basically said that the Scottish league is a load of shite and he would like him to play in Spain or Germany for a whole season before making a final decision on him.
Have fun, Vlad.

http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/espanyo ... 9710.shtml

Something doesn't add up here. Mancini wouldn't be making any sort of decisions over him but Espanyol would. And they'd make exact opposite decisiont that would be best for us.

Fuck these "option to purchase in the end of loan" deals. Caicedo is not my favourite but we are already losing tons of money because of that option. And what's the point anyway? If he is shit they'll send the player back, if he is good they buy him for peanuts. Yeah, that sounds good.

I think there'll be a massive clearance sale from us to clear the decks of anyone not remotely involved with the first team, except youngsters who may just be useful. Roll up roll up for City's bargain summer sales.

After all, financially it doesn't matter what we write off from the past, so they probably want to draw a line under it.

john@staustell wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

john@staustell wrote:Apparently we are very, very close to agreeing a season-long loan deal for Vlad the Impaler at Espanyol with whom, and I didn't know this, we have some sort of formal co-operation agreement from a few months ago.

We give them a first choice of loan players (apparently Bellers, Neddy etc) and they have taken us up on Weiss.

If the deal is completed it will be for one season with the option of purchase at the end. City MAY help them a little with the wages, and there is still the possibility of another player being loaned to Espanyol.

Weiss said that he would have liked to stay in Glasgow, but then he had a chat with Bobby. Mancini basically said that the Scottish league is a load of shite and he would like him to play in Spain or Germany for a whole season before making a final decision on him.
Have fun, Vlad.

http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/espanyo ... 9710.shtml

Something doesn't add up here. Mancini wouldn't be making any sort of decisions over him but Espanyol would. And they'd make exact opposite decisiont that would be best for us.

Fuck these "option to purchase in the end of loan" deals. Caicedo is not my favourite but we are already losing tons of money because of that option. And what's the point anyway? If he is shit they'll send the player back, if he is good they buy him for peanuts. Yeah, that sounds good.

I think there'll be a massive clearance sale from us to clear the decks of anyone not remotely involved with the first team, except youngsters who may just be useful. Roll up roll up for City's bargain summer sales.

After all, financially it doesn't matter what we write off from the past, so they probably want to draw a line under it.

There's one HUGE difference between Weiss and other players on the fringes of squad. He would count towards homegrown quota and if we don't plan going through season with 18 players (or something like that) then we need to keep some of those. Same reason we need to keep SWP.

He'll be 22 in November, I think the idea is to clear out anyone that would take up a registered place in the squad for next season and who would have little chance of playing for us. Age seems to be a bigger concern for us with the new rules rather than home grown status (since we already have a solid core of home grown first team players).

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

john@staustell wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

john@staustell wrote:Apparently we are very, very close to agreeing a season-long loan deal for Vlad the Impaler at Espanyol with whom, and I didn't know this, we have some sort of formal co-operation agreement from a few months ago.

We give them a first choice of loan players (apparently Bellers, Neddy etc) and they have taken us up on Weiss.

If the deal is completed it will be for one season with the option of purchase at the end. City MAY help them a little with the wages, and there is still the possibility of another player being loaned to Espanyol.

Weiss said that he would have liked to stay in Glasgow, but then he had a chat with Bobby. Mancini basically said that the Scottish league is a load of shite and he would like him to play in Spain or Germany for a whole season before making a final decision on him.
Have fun, Vlad.

http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/espanyo ... 9710.shtml

Something doesn't add up here. Mancini wouldn't be making any sort of decisions over him but Espanyol would. And they'd make exact opposite decisiont that would be best for us.

Fuck these "option to purchase in the end of loan" deals. Caicedo is not my favourite but we are already losing tons of money because of that option. And what's the point anyway? If he is shit they'll send the player back, if he is good they buy him for peanuts. Yeah, that sounds good.

I think there'll be a massive clearance sale from us to clear the decks of anyone not remotely involved with the first team, except youngsters who may just be useful. Roll up roll up for City's bargain summer sales.

After all, financially it doesn't matter what we write off from the past, so they probably want to draw a line under it.

There's one HUGE difference between Weiss and other players on the fringes of squad. He would count towards homegrown quota and if we don't plan going through season with 18 players (or something like that) then we need to keep some of those. Same reason we need to keep SWP.

It could be that they see players such as Gay Assulin & Abdul Razzak as replacements for the squad players as they will count as homegrown. If we sign a few more quality players then it's not so bad to have more kids involved alongside them.

If it's true that Bob has sent Weiss to Espanyol for the reasons stated, then either there is no option to buy or they have a player we want in return. He wouldn't let them have an option unless he's already decided on Weiss' future. It could be that they've agreed a fee, if we decide we want to sell.

Ted Hughes wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

john@staustell wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

john@staustell wrote:Apparently we are very, very close to agreeing a season-long loan deal for Vlad the Impaler at Espanyol with whom, and I didn't know this, we have some sort of formal co-operation agreement from a few months ago.

We give them a first choice of loan players (apparently Bellers, Neddy etc) and they have taken us up on Weiss.

If the deal is completed it will be for one season with the option of purchase at the end. City MAY help them a little with the wages, and there is still the possibility of another player being loaned to Espanyol.

Weiss said that he would have liked to stay in Glasgow, but then he had a chat with Bobby. Mancini basically said that the Scottish league is a load of shite and he would like him to play in Spain or Germany for a whole season before making a final decision on him.
Have fun, Vlad.

http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/espanyo ... 9710.shtml

Something doesn't add up here. Mancini wouldn't be making any sort of decisions over him but Espanyol would. And they'd make exact opposite decisiont that would be best for us.

Fuck these "option to purchase in the end of loan" deals. Caicedo is not my favourite but we are already losing tons of money because of that option. And what's the point anyway? If he is shit they'll send the player back, if he is good they buy him for peanuts. Yeah, that sounds good.

I think there'll be a massive clearance sale from us to clear the decks of anyone not remotely involved with the first team, except youngsters who may just be useful. Roll up roll up for City's bargain summer sales.

After all, financially it doesn't matter what we write off from the past, so they probably want to draw a line under it.

There's one HUGE difference between Weiss and other players on the fringes of squad. He would count towards homegrown quota and if we don't plan going through season with 18 players (or something like that) then we need to keep some of those. Same reason we need to keep SWP.

It could be that they see players such as Gay Assulin & Abdul Razzak as replacements for the squad players as they will count as homegrown. If we sign a few more quality players then it's not so bad to have more kids involved alongside them.

If it's true that Bob has sent Weiss to Espanyol for the reasons stated, then either there is no option to buy or they have a player we want in return. He wouldn't let them have an option unless he's already decided on Weiss' future. It could be that they've agreed a fee, if we decide we want to sell.

Just a thought but, given the FFP regulations, it might be in City's interests to have a few more twelve month loan deals for potentially unwanted players, rather than off-load everyone in a car boot scenario this summer.

That way, there would be some additional income in future years' accounts, to help us comply with the need to reduce losses further and if players such as Weiss do come good in a Spanish climate, it would then be like us signing a new player for nothing.

Good idea all round that these young players are loaned out if we're not going to play them; financially & for their development. I wish we actually had some young attacking players coming through to the 1st team though. Just seems to be defenders & the occasional defensive midfield player. Still, it may happen soon.