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Boateng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:52 am
by Wooders
Nedum wants to stay - Boeteng wants to go

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_city/s/1423493_nedum-onuoha-is-ready-to-battle-on-at-manchester-city

Keep nedum, sell boeteng, let arsenal sign cahill = we make money for a change

Almost seems to sensible doesn't it ?

Re: Boeteng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:11 pm
by CityGer
I've always felt Ned was under the level required and I saw nothing to convince me otherwise last season. He gets beat in the air too often for me and is prone to lapses of concentration.

Bobby clearly viewed Boyata as a better back up option last season and I don't see that changing.

It's understandable that people want him to stay, he came through the ranks and is a blue, but I don't think we can afford for either of these reasons to be factors in our decision making on our playing squad. I'm not saying that these are your reasons, wooders, I just think that his background and afinity with the club lead to inflated opinions of his ability.

Re: Boeteng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:13 pm
by Chinners
Pretty much was Cityger said. I've always liked Ned but where we are now sentiment needs to go out the window if we are to progress further imo.

Re: Boeteng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:15 pm
by Mikhail Chigorin
CityGer wrote:I've always felt Ned was under the level required and I saw nothing to convince me otherwise last season. He gets beat in the air too often for me and is prone to lapses of concentration.

Bobby clearly viewed Boyata as a better back up option last season and I don't see that changing.

It's understandable that people want him to stay, he came through the ranks and is a blue, but I don't think we can afford for either of these reasons to be factors in our decision making on our playing squad. I'm not saying that these are your reasons, wooders, I just think that his background and afinity with the club lead to inflated opinions of his ability.


Could this description also fit Boateng and, if played in his 'correct' position at centre back, would he be any better than Nedum ??

Perhaps the solution is to sell them both ??

Re: Boeteng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:18 pm
by Goaters 103
If we are serious about dining at the top table in football, Im afraid Onouha (nice lad and all that) can't be part of it.

Decent Prem player but not one who would feature for any of the Champs Lge sides. Jack of all trades defender but sadly master of none.

As for Boateng, I rate him as a centre half long term but if he wants to go then bollocks to him, though he goes on our terms and in a deal that suits us, not just because he wants out.

Re: Boeteng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:18 pm
by HeyMark
Nedum has to be the most awkward footballer I've ever seen. He never looks comfortable even when passing a ball a few yards.

Re: Boeteng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:27 pm
by Bingo Lewis
Richards is fine at CB anyway, I'd have him there before Boateng.
Boateng can fuck right off, the fucking nob, who the fuck does he think he is?
Bayern may be a bigger club right now, but they're in a shitter league, and they didn't even win that!
Fuck off, toodle pip, cheerio, au revior, gutten nacht and lick me out.

Re: Boeteng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:46 pm
by Wooders
my reasons are simple
a) I rate nedum higher than most it seems
b) financial fair play rules
c) homegrown talent rules

Re: Boeteng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:01 pm
by Chinners
Thats fair enough Wooders .... SWP should stay for those reason then

Re: Boeteng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:05 pm
by Wooders
Chinners wrote:Thats fair enough Wooders .... SWP should stay for those reason then


well SWP's 30 and Nedum's 25

Re: Boeteng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:08 pm
by Chinners
Maybe so, I still think he'd get more playing time than Ned tbh

Re: Boeteng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:45 pm
by Niall Quinns Discopants
Wooders wrote:my reasons are simple
a) I rate nedum higher than most it seems
b) financial fair play rules
c) homegrown talent rules


I'm down with that.

Also, Chinners, I think SWP SHOULD stay.

Re: Boeteng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:55 pm
by the_georgian_genius
Mancini isn't an idiot and it is because he isn't an idiot that we won't be replacing Boateng with Onouha, a backwards step if i ever saw one.

I'm afraid it's bye bye to Nedum.

Re: Boeteng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:11 pm
by sandman
I think Onouha is a good player, I've always thought he gave a decent account of himself whenever he's played for us, maybe not Champions League quality yet but I wouldnt cringe when I heard his name read out on the team sheet.

I cannot say the same for Boateng.

Re: Boateng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:33 pm
by aaron bond
Where in that article does Ned say he wants to stay??? Great reporting as usual...

I've always liked Ned but the fact is, he isn't good enough for a team wanting to be the best in Europe. His rant about Mancini and City on Soccer AM at the end of the 2009/2010 was still out of order and I think we should get decent money for him whilst we still can.

Boateng was pretty poor when he played last season, although I think he'd be a better centre back than right back. I'd be willing to give him another season but if Bayern offer us more than what we paid for him, I'd be happy to let him go. Also, now he's spouting off about Bayern being bigger and them giving him a better opportunity, let's get rid if we can.

Re: Boateng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:00 pm
by Blue Since 76
My comparison of the two:

---------------- Boateng -------Onuoha
Passing ------- Rubbish -----Rubbish
Pace ---------- Mediocre -------Best asset
Strength-------A big fairy -----Strong, but not nasty enough
Tackling -------Bobbins -------Good
Positioning ----Poor -----------Poor
Centre Half ----Yes ---------Yes
right back -----Yes -----------Yes
injury prone ----Yes ------------Yes
Home Grown ---No -------------Yes
Current Value --£12m+ --------£6m
Wants to stay? -No ------------ Maybe


So, should we keep the worse one who wants away and is worth more, or the cheap better one, who's also homegrown?

Re: Boateng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:15 pm
by 1950
So, the 'better one' is half the price? And would be even cheaper if you consider the englishness. What kind of folly is that?

Re: Boateng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:01 pm
by Blue Since 76
1950 wrote:So, the 'better one' is half the price? And would be even cheaper if you consider the englishness. What kind of folly is that?


Can't imagine we'd get more than £6m for Nedum, but we want at least what we paid for Boateng from Bayern. Regardless of price, I'd keep Nedum.

Re: Boateng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:14 pm
by Wooders
If we wanted to buy him from Sunderland rather than vice versa we'd be looking at over 10 million

Re: Boateng vs Onuah

PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:45 am
by Blueonblue
Nedum is a far better player than most on here are giving him credit for, and for my money as good if not a better bet than we have seen from Boateng as far as playing for the team goes.

I certainly would lose no sleep if we keep him, being confident he would give 100% on the pitch, with his best years still to come.