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Marwood

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Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:17 am
by Niall Quinns Discopants
Pressure is on lad.
We have spent all summer SO FAR on trying to get Sanchez deal happen. I thought that was poor effort to begin with with absolutely no value for money there and debatable merits. If, as it seems, Tevez is indeed starting to force a move you'll need to earn your wages and make some top top deals in about months time. Not an easy task I know but that's what you were hired to do.
Re: Marwood

Posted:
Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:21 am
by john@staustell
I think he's not doing bad so far.
But remember for all we know they have allowed for this Tevez business from last December and may be all ready to go with replacements. They like to keep cards very close to the chest, which cant be bad.
Re: Marwood

Posted:
Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:21 am
by Ted Hughes
Kia was only saying just a few weeks ago, that Tevez was staying so I don't think they've planned for anything. I think they've been shit on by Kia & Tevez & will now desperately be trying to sort it out. Imo, we are absolutely fucked in all competitions if we don't get a really fantastic replacement for Tevez.
Balotelli is an injury prone nutcase, who could be a world beater one second then sent off or alternatively crocked in an instant, Dzeko is a centre forward who scores half his goals from crosses who nobody crosses to, the rest are going or not interested.
Our season depends on Marwood & Bob (as he will also have to chat players up) getting this right.
Re: Marwood

Posted:
Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:32 am
by Hazy2
Ted Hughes wrote:Kia was only saying just a few weeks ago, that Tevez was staying so I don't think they've planned for anything. I think they've been shit on by Kia & Tevez & will now desperately be trying to sort it out. Imo, we are absolutely fucked in all competitions if we don't get a really fantastic replacement for Tevez.
Balotelli is an injury prone nutcase, who could be a world beater one second then sent off or alternatively crocked in an instant, Dzeko is a centre forward who scores half his goals from crosses who nobody crosses to, the rest are going or not interested.
Our season depends on Marwood & Bob (as he will also have to chat players up) getting this right.
Ted, I hope my club can respond in kind with it's own statement. nothing fancy just a few words from the owner the club.
Just a statement will do.
Re: Marwood

Posted:
Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:34 am
by Ted Hughes
Hazy2 wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Kia was only saying just a few weeks ago, that Tevez was staying so I don't think they've planned for anything. I think they've been shit on by Kia & Tevez & will now desperately be trying to sort it out. Imo, we are absolutely fucked in all competitions if we don't get a really fantastic replacement for Tevez.
Balotelli is an injury prone nutcase, who could be a world beater one second then sent off or alternatively crocked in an instant, Dzeko is a centre forward who scores half his goals from crosses who nobody crosses to, the rest are going or not interested.
Our season depends on Marwood & Bob (as he will also have to chat players up) getting this right.
Ted, I hope my club can respond in kind with it's own statement. nothing fancy just a few words from the owner the club.
Just a statement will do.
Tbh, unless our respose is that he can't leave, we're probably better off saying nowt in public.
Re: Marwood

Posted:
Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:21 am
by Hazy2
Ted Hughes wrote:Hazy2 wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Kia was only saying just a few weeks ago, that Tevez was staying so I don't think they've planned for anything. I think they've been shit on by Kia & Tevez & will now desperately be trying to sort it out. Imo, we are absolutely fucked in all competitions if we don't get a really fantastic replacement for Tevez.
Balotelli is an injury prone nutcase, who could be a world beater one second then sent off or alternatively crocked in an instant, Dzeko is a centre forward who scores half his goals from crosses who nobody crosses to, the rest are going or not interested.
Our season depends on Marwood & Bob (as he will also have to chat players up) getting this right.
Ted, I hope my club can respond in kind with it's own statement. nothing fancy just a few words from the owner the club.
Just a statement will do.
Tbh, unless our respose is that he can't leave, we're probably better off saying nowt in public.
We do that with Kia, and he will be wagging the dog until the window closes clouding every other deal, back page slaughter for us. To my mind the calculated release of the statement the day before pre-season, needs a reply in kind. MCFC have to show they are ahead of the game. Carlos is in need of a public slapping, it will do him no harm and what have got to lose it's 45 mill or nothing regardless.
Re: Marwood

Posted:
Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:22 am
by avoidconfusion
I would be shocked and surprised if Marwoord (and City) have not already prepared for the inevitable moment that Tevez spits his dummy out again.
Re: Marwood

Posted:
Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:27 am
by Niall Quinns Discopants
avoidconfusion wrote:I would be shocked and surprised if Marwoord (and City) have not already prepared for the inevitable moment that Tevez spits his dummy out again.
I wouldn't. But fuck me do I hope you are right about this one.
Re: Marwood

Posted:
Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:31 am
by Ted Hughes
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:avoidconfusion wrote:I would be shocked and surprised if Marwoord (and City) have not already prepared for the inevitable moment that Tevez spits his dummy out again.
I wouldn't. But fuck me do I hope you are right about this one.
I'm certain they will have prepared for it but I'm also certain that as Tevez didn't ask for a move & Kia (& Bob) was talking about him staying, they will have been concentrating on other targets rather than a replacement.
This will mean they suddenly have to reopen talks they'd put well & truly on the back burner & hope other clubs haven't got in ahead of them.
Re: Marwood

Posted:
Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:36 am
by Niall Quinns Discopants
Ted Hughes wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:avoidconfusion wrote:I would be shocked and surprised if Marwoord (and City) have not already prepared for the inevitable moment that Tevez spits his dummy out again.
I wouldn't. But fuck me do I hope you are right about this one.
I'm certain they will have prepared for it but I'm also certain that as Tevez didn't ask for a move & Kia (& Bob) was talking about him staying, they will have been concentrating on other targets rather than a replacement.
This will mean they suddenly have to reopen talks they'd put well & truly on the back burner & hope other clubs haven't got in ahead of them.
Which takes us to our real problem, that'd leave the selling club in limbo. Most clubs will just think "hell, we are going to just hang onto Lionel Christiano Aguero-Snejder and see what happens summer 2012 as we have no time to find replacement". This is too late to start sorting out deals for world top 10 players. Aguero is the only one I can think of who might be available and fit the desription.
You don't replace Carlos Tevez with some Serie A one-season-wonder and expect to challenge for title. That is my opinion.
Re: Marwood

Posted:
Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:41 am
by Ted Hughes
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:avoidconfusion wrote:I would be shocked and surprised if Marwoord (and City) have not already prepared for the inevitable moment that Tevez spits his dummy out again.
I wouldn't. But fuck me do I hope you are right about this one.
I'm certain they will have prepared for it but I'm also certain that as Tevez didn't ask for a move & Kia (& Bob) was talking about him staying, they will have been concentrating on other targets rather than a replacement.
This will mean they suddenly have to reopen talks they'd put well & truly on the back burner & hope other clubs haven't got in ahead of them.
Which takes us to our real problem, that'd leave the selling club in limbo. Most clubs will just think "hell, we are going to just hang onto Lionel Christiano Aguero-Snejder and see what happens summer 2012 as we have no time to find replacement". This is too late to start sorting out deals for world top 10 players. Aguero is the only one I can think of who might be available and fit the desription.
You don't replace Carlos Tevez with some Serie A one-season-wonder and expect to challenge for title. That is my opinion.
I agree but it could be that, if the clubs involved were actually willing sellers, they have lined up or even signed replacements already (youngsters or bargain buys) & are still hoping to get the money for their star man. I recon Udinese fall into that catagory for instance.
Re: Marwood

Posted:
Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:47 am
by avoidconfusion
You are right about that NQDP. Tevez is fucking us over AGAIN. Why does it take him until July to come out with this shit. And why do I get the feeling that neither Mancini nor the club had any clue about this prior to his public statement?
Wouldn't surprise me if they only found out about it via the papers. Tevez needs a fucking slap.
If him and Kia had any brains they would have told the club behind closed doors that they want a move away. That way we could have sold him and appeared to be reluctant sellers, thus maximizing the amount we could get for him. Now he publically stated (again) that he wants to leave, all the mugs like Barca and Madrid and whatnot will just fuck us now and offer 20m or some bullshit like that.
Re: Marwood

Posted:
Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:49 am
by Mike J
we HAVE to make our move for aguero now imo.
Re: Marwood

Posted:
Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:54 am
by Ted Hughes
Mike J wrote:we HAVE to make our move for aguero now imo.
The press think we are doing but whether that's true or just them assuming we will do & bullshitting, is anyone's guess.
Re: Marwood

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Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:10 am
by Hazy2
Mike J wrote:we HAVE to make our move for aguero now imo.
Nice idea, how do we convince him when his best mate,teamate is wanting away. No swap him for Modric and bale plus some cash
Re: Marwood

Posted:
Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:14 am
by Blue Blood
avoidconfusion wrote:I would be shocked and surprised if Marwoord (and City) have not already prepared for the inevitable moment that Tevez spits his dummy out again.
We all saw this coming, I'm damn sure they did too. This regime are no mugs, there will be plans in place.
One thing I have never had any doubt about is we are run by the best people. Khaldoon is phenomenal, we are ridiculously lucky to have him guiding the ship.
This Tevez episode does not bother me at all for this reason.
Re: Marwood

Posted:
Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:20 am
by the_georgian_genius
We do not need to replace Tevez, we already have two replacements in Balotelli and Dzeko, both will score more next season than Tevez did last season. We just need a good striker to supplement and compete with them along with a hungry young striker who is prepared to be a bit part player.
Re: Marwood

Posted:
Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:33 am
by Ted Hughes
the_georgian_genius wrote:We do not need to replace Tevez, we already have two replacements in Balotelli and Dzeko, both will score more next season than Tevez did last season. We just need a good striker to supplement and compete with them along with a hungry young striker who is prepared to be a bit part player.
We had Balotelli & dzeko last season yet would have finished mid table without Tevez. We all HOPE they are brilliant this season but we know what Tevez does. We need to get a replacement as close to his quality as possible.
Anyone who says they are sure Balotelli & Dzeko will make up for the lack of Tevez is telling lies, we don't find that out until they actually do it. If they don't & we don't have other options, those responsible should all be sacked. It could be that all 4 strikers won't cover for him but if we have 4 options then at least we are cutting down the chances of failure in that department & doing all we can.
Failure to at least try to cover the damage would be incompetence imo.
Re: Marwood

Posted:
Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:37 am
by the_georgian_genius
Ted Hughes wrote:the_georgian_genius wrote:We do not need to replace Tevez, we already have two replacements in Balotelli and Dzeko, both will score more next season than Tevez did last season. We just need a good striker to supplement and compete with them along with a hungry young striker who is prepared to be a bit part player.
We had Balotelli & dzeko last season yet would have finished mid table without Tevez. We all HOPE they are brilliant this season but we know what Tevez does. We need to get a replacement as close to his quality as possible.
Anyone who says they are sure Balotelli & Dzeko will make up for the lack of Tevez is telling lies, we don't find that out until they actually do it. If they don't & we don't have other options, those responsible should all be sacked. It could be that all 4 strikers won't cover for him but if we have 4 options then at least we are cutting down the chances of failure in that department & doing all we can.
Failure to at least try to cover the damage would be incompetence imo.
Well who do you suggest then Ted as a direct replacement for Tevez? plus that comment about us finishing mid table without Tevez is a load of rubbish.
Re: Marwood

Posted:
Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:38 am
by Alex Sapphire
avoidconfusion wrote:I would be shocked and surprised if Marwoord (and City) have not already prepared for the inevitable moment that Tevez spits his dummy out again.
me too, in fact did they put Roberto up to it when he said we'd tried to swap him for Eto'o.
Red rag to a bull i thought when I read that. Is this news his reaction?
They're saying his price is 50 mill and that will be a great help with FFP, so not only do I think they saw it coming, I think they provoked it now so that they can manage it rather than having it hanging over them in a vital new season.