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Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

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Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:17 am
by Niall Quinns Discopants
Rife slagging contest going on about Jo and Santa Cruz in different topics. Both are utter shite, think we all agree on that (well there's always some weirdo fanboy but most anyway) but which one is worse?
Re: Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

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Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:18 am
by Wonderwall
struggling to remember a positive contribution from either of them to be honest. I went RSC anyway as at least Jo was able to be picked if we were suffering with injuries
Re: Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

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Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:19 am
by Niall Quinns Discopants
I think winner of this contest can easily be awarded prestigious Worst Buy of The Century award.
Re: Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

Posted:
Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:20 am
by Niall Quinns Discopants
Wonderwall wrote:struggling to remember a positive contribution from either of them to be honest. I went RSC anyway as at least Jo was able to be picked if we were suffering with injuries
I went with Jo for the exact same reason. While both are shite, at least Jo is available for selection. Whether that's positive thing itself is up for debate though.
Re: Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

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Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:21 am
by ashton287
There both bad but Jo is fucking horrendous. Atleast if santa cruz could stay injury free he would score a few in a season.
Re: Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

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Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:22 am
by Scatman
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:I think winner of this contest can easily be awarded prestigious Worst Buy of The Century award.
He was a bad buy in football terms but in terms of enabling Shinawatra to get £18m of his soon to be frozen assets out of his bank account and into his other bank account it was a great signing.
Re: Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

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Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:23 am
by Niall Quinns Discopants
ashton287 wrote:There both bad but Jo is fucking horrendous. Atleast if santa cruz could stay injury free he would score a few in a season.
Few is exactly how many he'd score though. Other than that one miracle season, best he has ever managed in proper league is five in a season. Then again, would Jo manage five goals? I don't know.
Re: Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

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Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:24 am
by Mike J
Jo is fucking abysmal. santa cruz, on one of those rare occasions when he is fit does have a fair amount of football ability.
jo has zero ability.
Re: Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

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Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:32 am
by Alioune DVToure
I have never seen Jo put in a performance at the level of RSC's performance AGAINST us for Blackburn in 2007/08. RSC also had a good game for us against Sunderland in Hughes's last game in charge.
If we're doing this on ability, Jo has to be considered the worst. RSC at least had physical presence, decent touch and understood how to lead the line. He just happened to be a busted flush. You might say 'one season wonder', but it's still a considerable feat to bag 19 Prem goals in a season. It shows the ability was there if he was used the right way.
Jo, well he had, errrrr .................. I'll get back to you.
Re: Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

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Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:45 am
by HeyMark
Jo was worse, but just about. I've never seen a professional footballer more afraid of the ball than Jo.
Re: Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

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Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:48 am
by Chinners
Wonderwall wrote:struggling to remember a positive contribution from either of them to be honest. I went RSC anyway as at least Jo was able to be picked if we were suffering with injuries
This
Jo wants to play but can't ... RSC just can't
Re: Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

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Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:03 am
by dazby
Carlo Nash is worse.
Re: Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

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Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:12 am
by Douglas Higginbottom
One puts effort in the other doesnt
One has ability the other hasn't
One was badly used,the other sadly was overused for a while
Re: Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

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Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:25 am
by Dubciteh
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:One puts effort in the other doesnt
One has ability the other hasn't
One was badly used,the other sadly was overused for a while
agree, i personally think RSC got a raw deal from us.
Re: Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

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Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:30 am
by aaron bond
RSC hands-down in my opinion is worse. At least Jo had a reasonable scoring record before joining and so there was a reason to believe there was potential. He unfortunately hasn't got much talent but he does put in a bit of effort and has been happy to be a squad player. RSC was shit his whole career, and has (somehow) become even worse since joining us. Even thinking about RSC makes me angry, as almost EVERYONE knew it was the most stupid signing ever. One good season, in an otherwise, pathetic excuse for a career.
Re: Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

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Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:35 am
by Crossie
RSC has quality, he could have served a purpose here.
City fans just get pissed off with the money we spent on him, thats not his fault, his injuries have fucked up his entire career. RSC would have scored goals for us if fit.
Jo could not.
Re: Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

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Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:40 am
by the_georgian_genius
There is a difference between being shite and being injury prone. Santa Cruz is not shite, nor has he ever been, he is an excellent player, the problem is he is never fit enough to show it.
As for Jo, he's an ok player, not good enough for us or other teams in the prem but will do ok in Brazil.
Santa Cruz was the worse signing for us though because of the outlay spent on him and for the little return we have had from him, but that is not his fault, that is Hughes' fault.
Re: Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

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Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:40 am
by Chinners
Dubciteh wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:One puts effort in the other doesnt
One has ability the other hasn't
One was badly used,the other sadly was overused for a while
agree, i personally think RSC got a raw deal from us.
City got the raw deal imo both on price, wages, goals and playing time. The MEN however saw far more of him than we did. I agree with you on Barry in the other thread btw, deffo starter for me
Re: Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

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Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:25 am
by Niall Quinns Discopants
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:One puts effort in the other doesnt
One has ability the other hasn't
One was badly used,the other sadly was overused for a while
Honestly, I have no idea which is which. Neither puts any effort in, neither has ANY fucking ability whatsoever and both were overused in some stage although, luckily for us, different stages.
Re: Jo Or Santa Cruz, Which One Is Worse

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Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:26 am
by Niall Quinns Discopants
the_georgian_genius wrote:There is a difference between being shite and being injury prone. Santa Cruz is not shite, nor has he ever been, he is an excellent player, the problem is he is never fit enough to show it.
As for Jo, he's an ok player, not good enough for us or other teams in the prem but will do ok in Brazil.
Santa Cruz was the worse signing for us though because of the outlay spent on him and for the little return we have had from him, but that is not his fault, that is Hughes' fault.
See, that's fucking massive load of steaming shite. Santa Cruz is "excellent player". Like I said in OP, there's always some fanboy about but "excellent player"???? Jesus shit.