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Referees Behind the Goal

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:08 pm
by halnone
.. don't change anything.

I watched both Odense vs. Villareal and Bayern Munich vs. FC Zurich today and the referees behind the goal missed a blatant penalty in one game and also denied Odense a clear corner in the other and those were the only decisions they had to make all game.
Why are they there when they can't even get the simple decisions correct?

When will FIFA realise that adding more refs doesn't change a thing??

Re: Referees Behind the Goal

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:01 pm
by PoC
It'd be interesting to see what they'd have done with silvas goal on monday

Re: Referees Behind the Goal

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:04 pm
by Rag_hater
Think its a good idea.Would like to see them on the pitch.I think besides the game you mention in other games they have been an aid.

Re: Referees Behind the Goal

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:09 pm
by LookMumImOnMCF.net
There's always going to be debating points of there are a thousand refs on the pitch. One instance doesn't really prove anything.

I like the extra refs -if only to put players dragging each other around the box during set plays. I've a feeling Stoke will be conceding many a pen in the EL this season.

Re: Referees Behind the Goal

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:50 pm
by BmoreBlue
i thought the refs behind the goal are only there to judge if a ball crosses the line for a goal, and that's it? they aren't supposed to be making decisions on fouls, offsides, etc. at least that's the way i understood it.

Re: Referees Behind the Goal

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:56 pm
by halnone
BmoreBlue wrote:i thought the refs behind the goal are only there to judge if a ball crosses the line for a goal, and that's it? they aren't supposed to be making decisions on fouls, offsides, etc. at least that's the way i understood it.

They can call fouls if they want...
It just seems like they never want to...

Re: Referees Behind the Goal

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:50 pm
by DoomMerchant
PoC wrote:It'd be interesting to see what they'd have done with silvas goal on monday


even in slow mo you can't tell if the ball is really all the way out...it would be pretty Bolshevik to call that ball out seeing it in real-time, don't you think? You have to have a certain sense of liberty about the beauty of sports...and give the credit to an athletic endeavour when the call is that close, don't you think? i do.

Re: Referees Behind the Goal

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:01 am
by gaudy
pointless.
they never call anything,they either havent got the balls or been told to only interact if asked by the main referee.
ive watched countless games where blatant penalties/free kicks have happened and they stand there like statues

Re: Referees Behind the Goal

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:00 am
by Wonderwall
Rag_hater wrote:Think its a good idea.Would like to see them on the pitch.I think besides the game you mention in other games they have been an aid.


In all the games I have watched that have involved the additional officials, I have NEVER seen one of them instigate a decision. They are a total waste of time IMO as they continually miss decisions they are there to make.

Re: Referees Behind the Goal

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:24 am
by King Kev
Wonderwall wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Think its a good idea.Would like to see them on the pitch.I think besides the game you mention in other games they have been an aid.


In all the games I have watched that have involved the additional officials, I have NEVER seen one of them instigate a decision. They are a total waste of time IMO as they continually miss decisions they are there to make.

Exactly what I was going to say. Not a bad idea in theory but if they aren't prepared to make decisions then clearly its a wasted excersise.

Re: Referees Behind the Goal

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:07 am
by Rag_hater
I think if the extra ref's had the same power as linesmen and their was still a clear head honcho i.e the main ref there would be less controvosy.It's a good step forward to me.It works in American football.Anyway of making the man in the middle's job less open to mis-judgement is a positve to me.

Re: Referees Behind the Goal

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:32 pm
by Wonderwall
Rag_hater wrote:I think if the extra ref's had the same power as linesmen and their was still a clear head honcho i.e the main ref there would be less controvosy.It's a good step forward to me.It works in American football.Anyway of making the man in the middle's job less open to mis-judgement is a positve to me.


I am not with you? What powers are different?

Re: Referees Behind the Goal

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:02 pm
by carl_feedthegoat
Rag_hater wrote:Think its a good idea.Would like to see them on the pitch.I think besides the game you mention in other games they have been an aid.


You would like to see them on the pitch? are you fucking insane? there are already 23 people on the pitch and even the ref isnt prone to getting in the way of the ball let alone allowing another numpty to join him.

The only addition we need in football is goal line technology and not some divvies pretending to be usefull....PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

Re: Referees Behind the Goal

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:00 pm
by Rag_hater
Right its seems keeping all the fuck ups there are now is the way to go and changing something so it might become better is to modern.

Re: Referees Behind the Goal

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:12 am
by Wonderwall
Rag_hater wrote:Right its seems keeping all the fuck ups there are now is the way to go and changing something so it might become better is to modern.


que?

Re: Referees Behind the Goal

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:31 am
by Rag_hater
Wonderwall wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Right its seems keeping all the fuck ups there are now is the way to go and changing something so it might become better is to modern.


que?

According to some of the comments on here goal line tech is all we need.Maybe extra refs is not the answer but goal line tech is not gonna stop any fouls or handballs or dives being spotted.
If your telling me that reducing the fuck ups that we all see on a weekly basis are better than having a couple more refs who most of the time will try to avoid interferring with the play then maybe any progress is a bad thing