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Postby moomey » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:00 pm

What's it all about and when will he be rumbled for being the obvioulsy average player that he is?

From Wigan to England via a Red shirt - you coudn't make it up. Wait until the derby and Dejong does him...
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Re: Tom Cleverley

Postby Dubciteh » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:16 pm

moomey wrote:What's it all about and when will he be rumbled for being the obvioulsy average player that he is?

From Wigan to England via a Red shirt - you coudn't make it up. Wait until the derby and Dejong does him...


i agree 100%.

he will get found out, 2 months ago he was in and out of 21s team during championships and all of a sudden hes in senior squad?? Also smalling ahead of richards at right back??hes only played about 10 games there in his career its a joke.

Cleverly did nothing at wigan last season barely got a game, was always been taken off and now hes a world beater, it wont last...
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Re: Tom Cleverley

Postby 1950 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:17 pm

He's young, english & a rag, which makes him potentially world class by default. Still better than Henderson tbf, don't see what's so special about that one.
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Re: Tom Cleverley

Postby craigmcfc » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:27 pm

Dubciteh wrote:
moomey wrote:What's it all about and when will he be rumbled for being the obvioulsy average player that he is?

From Wigan to England via a Red shirt - you coudn't make it up. Wait until the derby and Dejong does him...


i agree 100%.

he will get found out, 2 months ago he was in and out of 21s team during championships and all of a sudden hes in senior squad?? [highlight]Also smalling ahead of richards at right back[/highlight]??hes only played about 10 games there in his career its a joke.

Cleverly did nothing at wigan last season barely got a game, was always been taken off and now hes a world beater, it wont last...


That is a complete disgrace. I don't know what Richards has done to piss Capello off but there's no way on earth Smalling is a better right back than him, nor is he in better form. Complete joke.
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Re: Tom Cleverley

Postby CityGer » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:27 pm

He's not starting is he?

Fucks me right off this. If the journo's are correct then Smalling (18 decent days) will start ahead of Micah (18 great months).
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Re: Tom Cleverley

Postby david yearsley » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:32 pm

He was wank in Euro U21, Smalling and Jones´arses fell out when the Czechs actually had to attack last 15 mins. Same old case of Ferguscum doing the old "bigging up" routine till they actually start believing the lie. That´s how he gets an extra 15/20 % out of average players. No chance with Postman Pat
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Re: Tom Cleverley

Postby Dameerto » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:02 pm

CityGer wrote:He's not starting is he?

Fucks me right off this. If the journo's are correct then Smalling (18 decent days) will start ahead of Micah (18 great months).


If that happens it's a joke. Capello really doesn't like Micah for some reason. Maybe he should actually, you know, WATCH HIM PLAY instead of sending some lieutenant on an afternoon's jolly. But what do I know?
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Re: Tom Cleverley

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:05 pm

And heres the worst part , we are playing utter utter utter shite , Bulgaria are not even better than Aldershot but you can bet a pound to a fuckign dollar the healdines will be all about WOONY and the Scum players being the best of the best when we batter Bulgaria 6 nil.
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Re: Tom Cleverley

Postby HeyMark » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:05 pm

Cleverly not starting but smalling is in ahead of Richards.

Micah won't get a look in until capello leaves. Capello has no intention of ever playing him
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Re: Tom Cleverley

Postby CityGer » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:13 pm

HeyMark wrote:Cleverly not starting but smalling is in ahead of Richards.

Micah won't get a look in until capello leaves. Capello has no intention of ever playing him


Genuinely gutted for him. He deserved to play tonight.

Micah's too switched on and I sense that England means too much to him to chuck the toys around but he would be well within his rights to tell Capello to fuck right off.

It really is a disgraceful decision.
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Re: Tom Cleverley

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:21 pm

Micah will get his chance and it looks like Capello is pandering to Taggart's rants. Maybe Mancini has asked him to not play Micah, I don't know.

Cleverley, I just don't get what all the fuss is about, he's average at best.
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Re: Tom Cleverley

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:06 pm

Can't stand our fans attitude sometimes of assuming every United player is shite. Having watched him at Wigan, Cleverley is a very tricky, decent prospect. He's also had a great start to the season.
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Re: Tom Cleverley

Postby Florida Blue » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:14 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Can't stand our fans attitude sometimes of assuming every United player is shite. Havign watched him at Wigan, Cleverly is a very tricky, decent prospect. He's also had a great start to the season.



Hate to admit it but BRF is spot on here. I have been impressed so far. That said, I expect any hard player will run him into the ground.
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Re: Tom Cleverley

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:49 pm

Florida Blue wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Can't stand our fans attitude sometimes of assuming every United player is shite. Havign watched him at Wigan, Cleverly is a very tricky, decent prospect. He's also had a great start to the season.



Hate to admit it but BRF is spot on here. I have been impressed so far. That said, I expect any hard player will run him into the ground.

I don't see what you 2 are seeing, to be honest. I'll save judgement until at least mid-season.
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Re: Tom Cleverley

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:03 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Florida Blue wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Can't stand our fans attitude sometimes of assuming every United player is shite. Havign watched him at Wigan, Cleverly is a very tricky, decent prospect. He's also had a great start to the season.



Hate to admit it but BRF is spot on here. I have been impressed so far. That said, I expect any hard player will run him into the ground.

I don't see what you 2 are seeing, to be honest. I'll save judgement until at least mid-season.

Last season he played very well in a very average Wigan side. He reminds me of a young Joe Cole, very tricky and good on the ball. He's far from the finished article but certainly has potential. I just wish our fans would stop saying he's shit because he's a United player.
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Re: Tom Cleverley

Postby HeyMark » Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:08 pm

If he played so well last season why didn't he get in th squad? It's an insult to clubs like Blackburn and Wigan that these players only get capped when they move/go back to United
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Re: Tom Cleverley

Postby david yearsley » Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:09 pm

Is he any better than say Mark Davies at Bolton? Not what I´ve seen and there´s fucl all chance of him getting near the England squad
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Re: Tom Cleverley

Postby Florida Blue » Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:12 pm

HeyMark wrote:If he played so well last season why didn't he get in th squad? It's an insult to clubs like Blackburn and Wigan that these players only get capped when they move/go back to United



What does last season matter? It is current form. Look it is not like there are a lot of exciting other options, and based on recent performance, give him a shot, can't be any worse off.
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Re: Tom Cleverley

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:14 pm

When he plays for England, he's an England player, not a United one. Some people need to get over themselves.
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Re: Tom Cleverley

Postby HeyMark » Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:17 pm

Florida Blue wrote:
HeyMark wrote:If he played so well last season why didn't he get in th squad? It's an insult to clubs like Blackburn and Wigan that these players only get capped when they move/go back to United



What does last season matter? It is current form. Look it is not like there are a lot of exciting other options, and based on recent performance, give him a shot, can't be any worse off.


If he was as good last season in a shite Wigan squad surely that warrants a call up more than playing well in a top team like united?
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