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http://mcfc.co.uk/News/Club-news/2011/S ... nouncement

Ted Hughes wrote:Sorry if already posted. (Well no I'm not actually I don't care).

http://mcfc.co.uk/News/Club-news/2011/S ... nouncement

The new images on the fly through video are very impressive, everything in place now for success.
( Apart from the ability to hold on to a 2 goal fucking lead !!!!!)

Is the circular complex in the middle the first team training pitch? looks like it's designed to keep out prying eyes.

We best enjoy Mr Higgi and his observation missions whilst we can. He'll be needing go go gadget legs to watch training there.

Looks bloody amazing though, didnt realise there was a 6th form college included also.

ant london wrote:Is the circular complex in the middle the first team training pitch? looks like it's designed to keep out prying eyes.

We best enjoy Mr Higgi and his observation missions whilst we can. He'll be needing go go gadget legs to watch training there.

Looks bloody amazing though, didnt realise there was a 6th form college included also.

I don't think any member of the general public or press will be able to see any of the pitches in the complex unless invited. the whole thing will be walled off apart from the areas designated for public use. The central area is probably for first team use where even the academy kids & City staff can't see what they get up to.

I bet the players are loving the idea of travelling from leafy suburbs in Cheshire to the Ground every day as opposed to a short hop to Carrington.

You have to wonder though, will it really build us a team in the future?.

How many of the top teams actually bring youth players tthrough to the top level.

Excluding the scums success bringing rooney through the youth system i can't think of any others in the prem i would consider worth the effort. <<<<Sarcasm.

ashton287 wrote:You have to wonder though, will it really build us a team in the future?.

How many of the top teams actually bring youth players tthrough to the top level.

Excluding the scums success bringing rooney through the youth system i can't think of any others in the prem i would consider worth the effort.

Rooney through the youth system? I take it you joking right

ashton287 wrote:You have to wonder though, will it really build us a team in the future?.

How many of the top teams actually bring youth players tthrough to the top level.

Excluding the scums success bringing rooney through the youth system i can't think of any others in the prem i would consider worth the effort. <<<<Sarcasm.

Ajax, Sporting and Barca have all brought through world class players.

An Ajax and Barca graduates game would be a pretty impressive spectacle.

Mark (Blue Army) wrote:

ashton287 wrote:You have to wonder though, will it really build us a team in the future?.

How many of the top teams actually bring youth players tthrough to the top level.

Excluding the scums success bringing rooney through the youth system i can't think of any others in the prem i would consider worth the effort.

Rooney through the youth system? I take it you joking right

You mean he wasn't?? I thought him and ronaldo came through together.

the_georgian_genius wrote:

ashton287 wrote:You have to wonder though, will it really build us a team in the future?.

How many of the top teams actually bring youth players tthrough to the top level.

Excluding the scums success bringing rooney through the youth system i can't think of any others in the prem i would consider worth the effort. <<<<Sarcasm.

Ajax, Sporting and Barca have all brought through world class players.

An Ajax and Barca graduates game would be a pretty impressive spectacle.

Yeah but it's never a whole teams worth though is it. They produce maybe 1 or 2 players capable of playing at the top level every few years and then will pay ridiculous money to poach the rest, same as everybody else.

If you went through all the starting 11's of all the CL team's this year not many will have kids or youth products starting. We could maybe claim richards but we can only take half the credit for him.

We could produce a messi and then it would all be a huge success but we could produce the same shit we have done so far and it all just be a huge waste of everyones time. Before anyone starts about the shit we have produced NO MJ, SWP, steven ireland and onouha are not good enough and never would have been.

ashton287 wrote:

the_georgian_genius wrote:

ashton287 wrote:You have to wonder though, will it really build us a team in the future?.

How many of the top teams actually bring youth players tthrough to the top level.

Excluding the scums success bringing rooney through the youth system i can't think of any others in the prem i would consider worth the effort. <<<<Sarcasm.

Ajax, Sporting and Barca have all brought through world class players.

An Ajax and Barca graduates game would be a pretty impressive spectacle.

Yeah but it's never a whole teams worth though is it. They produce maybe 1 or 2 players capable of playing at the top level every few years and then will pay ridiculous money to poach the rest, same as everybody else.

If you went through all the starting 11's of all the CL team's this year not many will have kids or youth products starting. We could maybe claim richards but we can only take half the credit for him.

We could produce a messi and then it would all be a huge success but we could produce the same shit we have done so far and it all just be a huge waste of everyones time. Before anyone starts about the shit we have produced NO MJ, SWP, steven ireland and onouha are not good enough and never would have been.

Barca had 8 home grown players in the Champion's Lg final.

Our academy has been good at producing players for general use but utterly crap at producing quality. Imo, there is no reason teams can't produce a majority of players for their first teams. The only thing preventing it from happening imo is incompetence in the people who coach young kids & the crappy systems they work in. For instance; is there seriously not one kid in Scotland good enough to be a top player ? Hardly any in Manchester ? I'm not having it.

If I remember rightly there are things you can do with a grade one academy regarding coaching etc that you're not allowed to do with lower grade academies; more hours, lower ages; something like that. The last time I looked, there were no grade 1 Academies in Britain.

City will have one when this is built. I recon we're going to produce shitloads of players taken from all over the world & will revitalise the England team while we're at it both by producing home grown talent & giving kids from elsewhere english nationality. We will revolutionise this country's youth football with this & I bet we'll bring in some of the world's best coaches to work there.

Ted Hughes wrote:

ashton287 wrote:

the_georgian_genius wrote:

ashton287 wrote:You have to wonder though, will it really build us a team in the future?.

How many of the top teams actually bring youth players tthrough to the top level.

Excluding the scums success bringing rooney through the youth system i can't think of any others in the prem i would consider worth the effort. <<<<Sarcasm.

Ajax, Sporting and Barca have all brought through world class players.

An Ajax and Barca graduates game would be a pretty impressive spectacle.

Yeah but it's never a whole teams worth though is it. They produce maybe 1 or 2 players capable of playing at the top level every few years and then will pay ridiculous money to poach the rest, same as everybody else.

If you went through all the starting 11's of all the CL team's this year not many will have kids or youth products starting. We could maybe claim richards but we can only take half the credit for him.

We could produce a messi and then it would all be a huge success but we could produce the same shit we have done so far and it all just be a huge waste of everyones time. Before anyone starts about the shit we have produced NO MJ, SWP, steven ireland and onouha are not good enough and never would have been.

Barca had 8 home grown players in the Champion's Lg final.

Our academy has been good at producing players for general use but utterly crap at producing quality. Imo, there is no reason teams can't produce a majority of players for their first teams. The only thing preventing it from happening imo is incompetence in the people who coach young kids & the crappy systems they work in. For instance; is there seriously not one kid in Scotland good enough to be a top player ? Hardly any in Manchester ? I'm not having it.

If I remember rightly there are things you can do with a grade one academy regarding coaching etc that you're not allowed to do with lower grade academies; more hours, lower ages; something like that. The last time I looked, there were no grade 1 Academies in Britain.

City will have one when this is built. I recon we're going to produce shitloads of players taken from all over the world & will revitalise the England team while we're at it both by producing home grown talent & giving kids from elsewhere english nationality. We will revolutionise this country's youth football with this & I bet we'll bring in some of the world's best coaches to work there.

The last sentence is spot on and to the eternal shame of the FA

ashton287 wrote:

Mark (Blue Army) wrote:

ashton287 wrote:You have to wonder though, will it really build us a team in the future?.

How many of the top teams actually bring youth players tthrough to the top level.

Excluding the scums success bringing rooney through the youth system i can't think of any others in the prem i would consider worth the effort.

Rooney through the youth system? I take it you joking right

You mean he wasn't?? I thought him and ronaldo came through together.

WUM of the highest order.

lets all have a disco wrote:I bet the players are loving the idea of travelling from leafy suburbs in Cheshire to the Ground every day as opposed to a short hop to Carrington.

This is a worry.. its a distance isnt it. Maybe Kompanys chauffeur service could sort them out ;)

Hopefully they will have some sort of luxury hotel accomodation or appartments on site which players could use?

Lee_R wrote:

ashton287 wrote:

Mark (Blue Army) wrote:

ashton287 wrote:You have to wonder though, will it really build us a team in the future?.

How many of the top teams actually bring youth players tthrough to the top level.

Excluding the scums success bringing rooney through the youth system i can't think of any others in the prem i would consider worth the effort.

Rooney through the youth system? I take it you joking right

You mean he wasn't?? I thought him and ronaldo came through together.

WUM of the highest order.

I did highlight my sarcasm in the original post but for some reason mark decided to delete that bit.

ashton287 wrote:

Lee_R wrote:

ashton287 wrote:

Mark (Blue Army) wrote:

ashton287 wrote:You have to wonder though, will it really build us a team in the future?.

How many of the top teams actually bring youth players tthrough to the top level.

Excluding the scums success bringing rooney through the youth system i can't think of any others in the prem i would consider worth the effort.

Rooney through the youth system? I take it you joking right

You mean he wasn't?? I thought him and ronaldo came through together.

WUM of the highest order.

I did highlight my sarcasm in the original post but for some reason mark decided to delete that bit.

Thats fraud ;)

Ted Hughes wrote:Barca had 8 home grown players in the Champion's Lg final.

They had 5 Valdez, pique, xavi, iniesta and messi home grown players that started the final.

Others might have joined the youth system at 16/17 but i dont class that as a home grown player. The FA might but the whole point of building a tier 1 youth system is so we can get players at a younger age (i think its 12 your allowed if your tier 1) If your signing 17 year olds like barca and there fabled (literally) youth system then whats the point of spending all the extra money? We can sign 17 year olds already.

ashton287 wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:Barca had 8 home grown players in the Champion's Lg final.

They had 5 Valdez, pique, xavi, iniesta and messi home grown players that started the final.

Others might have joined the youth system at 16/17 but i dont class that as a home grown player. The FA might but the whole point of building a tier 1 youth system is so we can get players at a younger age (i think its 12 your allowed if your tier 1) If your signing 17 year olds like barca and there fabled (literally) youth system then whats the point of spending all the extra money? We can sign 17 year olds already.

It's not about being able to say you've had a player since he was a foetus, it's about bringing through players good eough for the first team. We can sign 17 year olds now, we can sign 25 year olds now. If we can also bring through a constant supply of players from being young kids & teach them how to play the way our club wants to play, we become Barcelona. We can also make money selling some of them that don't make it with us.

Lee_R wrote:

lets all have a disco wrote:I bet the players are loving the idea of travelling from leafy suburbs in Cheshire to the Ground every day as opposed to a short hop to Carrington.

This is a worry.. its a distance isnt it. Maybe Kompanys chauffeur service could sort them out ;)

Hopefully they will have some sort of luxury hotel accomodation or appartments on site which players could use?

I guess if they hop on the M60 the opposite way round it will be ok in the mornings but if there is traffic or an accident then.

I travel from North Manc to Alty and its a pain in the ass i cant understand the players being too happy adding an extra hour and a half to training.

lets all have a disco wrote:

Lee_R wrote:

lets all have a disco wrote:I bet the players are loving the idea of travelling from leafy suburbs in Cheshire to the Ground every day as opposed to a short hop to Carrington.

This is a worry.. its a distance isnt it. Maybe Kompanys chauffeur service could sort them out ;)

Hopefully they will have some sort of luxury hotel accomodation or appartments on site which players could use?

I guess if they hop on the M60 the opposite way round it will be ok in the mornings but if there is traffic or an accident then.

I travel from North Manc to Alty and its a pain in the ass i cant understand the players being too happy adding an extra hour and a half to training.

Maybe we should buy a Thaksin style military helicopter.