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Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:39 pm
by Dunnylad
The Mirror are reporting that we can't get Tevez as no one will confirm Bob's side of the story
http://t.co/LXdUSntk
Re: Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:44 pm
by Plain Speaking
IMO there just stirring. Trying to cause mischief before the derby. Tevez provided enough in his post match Sky interview to allow City to take action.
Re: Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:47 pm
by Nigels Tackle
tevez + mirror = cracking story
Re: Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:48 pm
by Dunnylad
For those who can't click on the link:-
"Manchester City have made a dramatic climbdown over Roberto Mancini's claims that Carlos Tevez refused to play against Bayern Munich.
Tevez will still be hauled before a club internal inquiry in Manchester on Friday over his alleged actions during a Champions League tie at the Allianz Arena three weeks ago.
But the Mirror has learned from City sources that sensational evidence will show no one at the club has backed Mancini's version of events that night.
In fact, Tevez will not even be charged with refusing to play in Munich, as even Mancini's assistants Brian Kidd and David Platt and fitness coach Ivan Carminati were unable to back their boss up.
Tevez will be accused only of "refusing to carry out Roberto Mancini's and Ivan Carminati's instructions to resume warming up with a view to playing in the match".
City's ability to hit Tevez with a severe punishment may now be compromised by the reduced charge and the confused picture of events the written evidence is believed to present.
And it leaves Mancini in an uncomfortable situation as City head into their eagerly-awaited derby showdown with Manchester United at Old Trafford on Sunday.
Sources say that written submissions from City staff and players paint a vivid picture of a bench in a state of chaos and uproar at the Allianz Arena.
Mancini was 'nervous' because City were 2-0 down and angry because striker Edin Dzeko had gestured angrily at him when he was substituted in the 55th minute.
At one point, Mancini is even believed to have shouted instructions at Tevez in Italian, even though the Argentine striker does not speak the language.
And it is thought that, in his testimony, Carminati admits that when he asked Tevez to warm up, the player replied, "I'm ready."
Mancini's evidence is believed to show that he is the only person on the bench that night sticking to the story that Tevez refused to play.
Sources say he maintains that Tevez said 'no' when he asked him for a second time to get off the bench, but even Mancini admits it was so noisy in the stadium that it was hard to hear what was being said.
And a submission from another member of City's staff is thought to suggest Tevez actually said "por que" (Spanish for 'why') when Mancini asked him to warm up again during the second half.
Neither Kidd, whose duties include filling out the substitutes' card to notify the fourth official of a change, nor Platt can say whether Mancini was even intending to put Tevez on.
Sources say that the written evidence will state no substitute's card with the name of Tevez on it was ever filled out.
It is thought that the striker will insist again at the hearing that he did not refuse to play in Munich, and will say he was unsure about whether to warm up because he had already spent 10 minutes exercising on the touchline at the start of the second half.
Written evidence also suggests events on the bench lurched into farce when Tevez finally grasped that Mancini wanted him to warm up again.
When the player stood up to head back out to the touchline, Mancini yelled at him to sit down and told him he didn't want to play him.
The Tevez camp has previously claimed it was that exchange which led to the 27-year-old telling Sky Sports reporter Geoff Shreeves after the match that he was not in the right frame of mind to play.
The Argentine striker is thought to insist, once again, in his evidence that he never refused to go on to the pitch or refused to play - the accusation that Mancini levelled at him in the post-match press conference.
And written statements from more than a dozen City players and staff are believed to back up his version of events.
It is believed that the Tevez camp will fight any disciplinary action against the striker and are prepared to take the case to a Premier League tribunal."
Re: Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:04 pm
by Beefymcfc
Amazing! The Rag Top runs a story we're holding off on before the Big Game, why is that?
Re: Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:02 am
by carl_feedthegoat
I knew all along he was innocent.
Re: Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:34 am
by DoomMerchant
carl_feedthegoat wrote:I knew all along he was innocent.
well lets just say for a minute that the story as described is accurate. then what?
Re: Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:00 am
by Dingus McDouchey
Then I'm nailing Sofia Vergara
Re: Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:07 am
by carl_feedthegoat
DoomMerchant wrote:carl_feedthegoat wrote:I knew all along he was innocent.
well lets just say for a minute that the story as described is accurate. then what?
Its pretty fuckign serious to be honest........But right now fingers are being pointed at Mancini as he said Tevez REFUSED to come on as a sub and Tevez said he refused to warm up again and that was all.
It could get really messy if these reports have any substance in them.
Re: Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:11 am
by john@staustell
Re: Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:32 am
by Paul68
Dingus McDouchey wrote:Then I'm nailing Sofia Vergara
Wait your turn!
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Re: Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:34 am
by King Kev
Dunnylad wrote:The Mirror are reporting that we can't get Tevez as no one will confirm Bob's side of the story
http://t.co/LXdUSntk
If only the incident had been caught on camera and beamed around the world!
Re: Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:47 am
by shortagain
DoomMerchant wrote:carl_feedthegoat wrote:I knew all along he was innocent.
well lets just say for a minute that the story as described is accurate. then what?
They find who leaked what is obviously confidential club business & sack them as well
Re: Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:11 am
by Rag_hater
That Kia is fuckin good.
Give him Cook's old job.
Re: Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:34 am
by Alex Sapphire
this must be a report of the sessions that Tevez was allowed to bring either the team captain or a PFA rep to, so the only plausible source is Tevez with his team tarting it up. The idea that no-one supported Mancini's stance is a contrived interpretation of their evidence.
I see three relevent points:
the charge will be refusal to warm up in preparation to play. What's the difference?
Carminati's "admission" that he said "I'm ready" is the equivalent of confirmation of a refusal to follow instructions since he didn't move
the idea that it was mancini finally telling him not to bother that caused Tevez to say he wasn't "in the right state of mind" to play makes no sense. No sense at all
feeble attempt to court public opinion. Feeble attempt to destabilise us ahead of the derby
He has breached 3 of the terms of his contract even if this crock of shit has any substance
"to participate in...match preparation according to the instructions of his superior"
"to comply and act in accordance with Club officials' instructions"
and in my opinion
"not to bring the club or football into disrepute"
He will be fined to the max.
Re: Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:39 am
by Beefymcfc
But will he be playing Sunday?
Re: Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:47 am
by Douglas Higginbottom
How the hell does the Mirror get a story like this from "City sources"
Re: Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:49 am
by Beefymcfc
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:How the hell does the Mirror get a story like this from "City sources"
You need to start being a little more secretive at the Training mate, they've got you bugged.
Re: Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:50 am
by King Kev
Beefymcfc wrote:But will he be playing Sunday?
I fuclin hope not!
There have been a few players over the years who I thought were not worthy of wearing the shirt. In the past it has aleways been based on the fact that they weren't good enough, in Tevez's case it truly is a case of him not being worthy.
Re: Mirror and Tevez

Posted:
Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:05 am
by Hazy2
Whatever the brotherhood of players are refusing to get involved in, I fear RM might be gone sooner than planned, lose this battle with CT and he is doomed, whatever you say and think a manager does not needs to feel isolated.