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Did we do it terminal damage yesterday ?

Teams go to the swamp not believing they can win or get anything out of the game. Then they capitulate, especially in the last 20 minutes. I'm hoping that state of mind might change now. Am I right to hold out such hope?

Kladze wrote:Did we do it terminal damage yesterday ?

Teams go to the swamp not believing they can win or get anything out of the game. Then they capitulate, especially in the last 20 minutes. I'm hoping that state of mind might change now. Am I right to hold out such hope?

It would be nice to think we did but only time will tell.Others have played well there and threatened a result but it took the extra quality of City to show what can be done.

For City the psychological barrier was Wembley against them last season.

Teams have been beginning to wake up to the fact that if they have a go they might get something for the last couple of seasons, the only thing that has held them back is individuals letting the occasion get to them (think that Norwich player a couple of weeks ago). They've had some of the most shots against them, down with the likes of Wigan, Bottom etc.

i dont really know, chelsea had a go and came unstuck,
norwich too. i think liverpool had a go last week and were unlucky.
theres only a few teams will try it.
but we have certainly got a psychological advantage over most teams now
just because of the result. every fixture from now on for us and scum will be highlighted as title deciders.
the best thing is if we keep the form up scum cant afford to drop points.
if we play before them well have a bigger gap if we win.
next week they go to everton lose and we could be 8 pts clear if we do wolves.
so it gives us a great advantage.

I doubt Aldershot will be looking at yesterday's result and feeling more confident about tomorrow. Ditto Everton.

We don't really know how they'll respond to this, they're not used to it and it does raise questions. They'd been in excellent form and were managing despite the odd cracks appearing.

Big results like this often effect form and it'd be great for us if they slide for a few matches. That'd be really useful because we know their fans are as fickle as fuck.

I'm pretty sure we've opened the purse strings for a January purchase of a midfielder or a defender.

I reckon Sneijder could be on his way in January to them. They'll need him too. They just had no invention and looked so predictable.

ronk wrote:
We don't really know how they'll respond to this, they're not used to it and it does raise questions. They'd been in excellent form and were managing despite the odd cracks appearing.

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15-0 win at everton I reckon. The cunts always do it. Phil Neville hatrick of own goals too.

I reckon Scouse ii would fancy their chances anyway.
Cue talk of 'wounded animal'
DH is right, the Cup Semi blitzed the barrier for us.

We have a MUCH BETTER TEAM than anyone else in this league and arguably the world...so I would say that this plays on other teams minds including the Munchenhausens....THEY ALL SHIT IT NOW when they play us...teams will still shit it when they play the scum but will shit it even more when they play us.

We are doing to teams what the scum did to teams...new chapter...new book.

Not sure about terminal damage, but surely real damage? you would think this ought to make the cows come home to the fact that baconface has a suspect set of players, some simply not good enough, others past it and definitively no midfield force at all. Like Spurs it is all well and good to have two fast wingers, but if they dont receive the ball they may as well be playing cards with someone in the crowd.

Ok they are not going to meet teams like City at present every week, but sir baconface pronounced that they would learn from the Barca defeat and come back to beat them.. he threw a lot of money away on some players, but failed to get the players that would really improve the squad. They are no better than last year and probably more vunerable.

i think if there was any kind of crisis it is going to be with Baconbonnet, he has to realise he has truly fucked up, they are in no way going to get any closer to challenging barca and have been overtaken at home by a new class of protoype merc humming along at 450 miles an hour... with loads of passengers hanging out the windows waving and laughing and having lots of fun.

if you ask me that's the crunch, the dream had been to rejuvenate his team to go and win the CL again. I just can't type that without laughing my face off.

The question perhaps should be is Ferguson finished?

If he realises that he is ( lets be honest here, that is the case ), they will collapse.

I suspect though that other teams will continue to let them off the hook at every opportunity in the Prem. The CL though is a different matter and you may see that the rest of Europe noticed this more than Prem managers.

If they go out of the CL early I rekon it is over at Swampland.

brite blu sky wrote: overtaken at home by a new class of protoype merc humming along at 450 miles an hour... with loads of passengers hanging out the windows waving and laughing and having lots of fun.
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Picturing this. Brilliant. :)

brite blu sky wrote:Not sure about terminal damage, but surely real damage? you would think this ought to make the cows come home to the fact that baconface has a suspect set of players, some simply not good enough, others past it and definitively no midfield force at all. Like Spurs it is all well and good to have two fast wingers, but if they dont receive the ball they may as well be playing cards with someone in the crowd.

Ok they are not going to meet teams like City at present every week, but sir baconface pronounced that they would learn from the Barca defeat and come back to beat them.. he threw a lot of money away on some players, but failed to get the players that would really improve the squad. They are no better than last year and probably more vunerable.

i think if there was any kind of crisis it is going to be with Baconbonnet, he has to realise he has truly fucked up, they are in no way going to get any closer to challenging barca and have been overtaken at home by a new class of protoype merc humming along at 450 miles an hour... with loads of passengers hanging out the windows waving and laughing and having lots of fun.

if you ask me that's the crunch, the dream had been to rejuvenate his team to go and win the CL again. I just can't type that without laughing my face off.

The question perhaps should be is Ferguson finished?

If he realises that he is ( lets be honest here, that is the case ), they will collapse.

I suspect though that other teams will continue to let them off the hook at every opportunity in the Prem. The CL though is a different matter and you may see that the rest of Europe noticed this more than Prem managers.

If they go out of the CL early I rekon it is over at Swampland.

We can dream, but it won't be that easy. An important part of the core of their squad is crumbling but there's still a lot of strength there. They've conceded 12 goals in the league, take away our 6 and they look very strong. The 3 goals conceded in the collapse at the dying moments is as many as they've otherwise conceded away or home (not both). Even with this thrashing, they've still had a very strong start. In isolation, they'd have been happy with these stats if offered them at the start of the season. Arsenal are bouncing back from their 8-2 defeat.

They'll play a tighter game next time and it'll be a bit harder for us. They'll be working hard on their defense. We ripped open the cracks which had been visible but ignored because of a strong winning record. They're still competing for the CL while we're still learning (fast) about playing at this level.

Best case scenario is they drop 10-15 points limping into January before splashing out on defence and midfield.

Don't matter if other squads will stop having this psychological barrier at the swamp. City ended definitively yesterday to accept passively the mind games of all those red twats whose disgraceful emperor is Sir Baconface!

I fear that may well go and get Wesley in the winter and that will go some way to sorting out their problems. Hopefully it will be too late by then.
If Bacon keeps believing Cleverly, Norma from Shameless, Evans and Wellbeck are the answer, then he is asking the wrong question. Hurrah!

ronk wrote:We can dream, but it won't be that easy. An important part of the core of their squad is crumbling but there's still a lot of strength there. They've conceded 12 goals in the league, take away our 6 and they look very strong. The 3 goals conceded in the collapse at the dying moments is as many as they've otherwise conceded away or home (not both). Even with this thrashing, they've still had a very strong start. In isolation, they'd have been happy with these stats if offered them at the start of the season. Arsenal are bouncing back from their 8-2 defeat.

They'll play a tighter game next time and it'll be a bit harder for us. They'll be working hard on their defense. We ripped open the cracks which had been visible but ignored because of a strong winning record. They're still competing for the CL while we're still learning (fast) about playing at this level.

Best case scenario is they drop 10-15 points limping into January before splashing out on defence and midfield.

I suppose the main point of what i am saying is that the players although some are not that brilliant will however recover ( with the aid of oppositions rolling over) but will old boilednose himself? 70 this year, humiliated by Barca and then vowed to renew and go and beat them... he is having a fucking laugh. In the past you might take him seriously but at that age saying what he did and then buying who he did.. if they go out of the CL the fire might go out in him. If that happens they are fucked at the swamp.

I'm saying Ferguson could well be their weakest link not their players, because he simply only has a limited time left and has put his money on players that are not going to take barca or City apart, his aim of getting another CL has just evaporated in front of his eyes with another team mastering them with a style they cannot compete with.